Howie58 Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 Hello: This was in today's Inquirer. Our friend Neuvy rates himself with Rask. http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/flyers/Philadelphia-Flyers-Michal-Neuvirth-Tuukka-Rask-goalie-just-as-good.html Granted, earlier in his career, Neuvy's credentials and performance suggested an up-and-comer. Maybe the recent crease collapse and apparent concussion, coupled with the resigning, have literally and figuratively gotten to his head!
OccamsRazor Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 26 minutes ago, Howie58 said: Hello: This was in today's Inquirer. Our friend Neuvy rates himself with Rask. http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/flyers/Philadelphia-Flyers-Michal-Neuvirth-Tuukka-Rask-goalie-just-as-good.html Granted, earlier in his career, Neuvy's credentials and performance suggested an up-and-comer. Maybe the recent crease collapse and apparent concussion, coupled with the resigning, have literally and figuratively gotten to his head! Remember he was concussed as still was when making that statement...
flyercanuck Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 Rates himself with Rask??? That's like Schenn rating himself with Crosby.
ruxpin Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: Rates himself with Rask??? That's like Schenn rating himself with Crosby. It's more like ME rating myself with Crosby. It's that ridiculous. Next he's going to start taking about stars and bears.
ruxpin Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 Neuvirth simply doesn't have any kind of constitution at all. You talk about a snowflake. He gets injured when a puppy barks a town away, shrinks from a contract year, etc. Wow. He better not be the plan for #1 next year. I'll kind of be hoping for a lockout.
Howie58 Posted April 13, 2017 Author Posted April 13, 2017 Well, it was worth getting a laugh. But.....makes me wonder if he can learn from his past...or is deluded?
AJgoal Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 They're not comparable. Neuvirth is fragile. Rask folds like a cheap suit when the pressure is on. I did see Neuvirth said he felt he could be as good as Holtby, though. I think Meltzer tweeted it. Have to look.
OccamsRazor Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 2 hours ago, ruxpin said: He gets injured when a puppy barks a town away That was the funny as hell...
radoran Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, AJgoal said: Rask folds like a cheap suit when the pressure is on. The year the Bruins lost to the Hawks he put up a 1.88/.940 in 22 playoff games. In the third round against the Pens he had a .5 GAA and a .985 SV%. The next year he put up 1.99/.928 in the playoffs and his career playoff is 2.11/.930 in 47 games and regular season is 2.24/.924. I think I might like that suit.
murraycraven Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 He should be traded for just making that claim...
ruxpin Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, murraycraven said: He should be traded for just making that claim... Trade him for Rask.
murraycraven Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, ruxpin said: Trade him for Rask. why? he *is* apparently just as good!
RJ8812 Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 they are both goalies............. .............and that's all they have in common
King Knut Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 6 hours ago, ruxpin said: It's more like ME rating myself with Crosby. It's that ridiculous. Next he's going to start taking about stars and bears. Okay, I'm going to play Devils advocate and not just because you brought up bears (Everyone knows that what Bryz really meant was that he was terrified of Neuwirth's Hershey Bears). Anyway... I'm going to be the jerk here and play Devil's Advocate: Rask's save % this year was .922. Neuwirth's was .914. Rask was clearly better, but A LOT better? .8% better to be exact I guess. That's less than 1/4 of a goal per game for Neuvy. The Bruins had a goal differential of +23 The Flyers had a goal differential of -19 The Bruins Defense was a combined +22 The Flyers Defense was a combined -21 The Bruins scored 232 goals The Flyers scored 212 goals The Bruins had the #1 Penalty Kill The Flyers had the #21 Penalty Kill The Bruins hnad the #2 Corsi for % The Flyers had the #9 Corsi for % Bruins #2 Shots against Flyers #8 Shots against. Most tellingly: Boston had the #1 Corsi against in the league. Our Flyers had the #15 Corsi against in the league. Which is all just to say that as much as I could care less if Neuvy ever puts on a Flyers sweater again (and I kinda hope he doesn't) I can't honestly disagree that if He'd been on the Bruins, Neuwirth's stats wouldn't be similar or better than Rasks this year. The Bruins were a significantly better team in every aspect of the game except total PP goals (which they were right behind the Flyers and they still kicked the Flyers butts on pp%). Do I think he's better? No, but looking at the teams, there's enough there to say that he very well may have been. Who knows? The Flyers sucked. Flat out. Of course Neuvy still would have missed a huge chunk of the season with an injury because hell, that's just what Neuvy does.
King Knut Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ruxpin said: Trade him for Rask. Because we don't have enough mega long contracts for people to complain about? Could you imagine if we were paying $7million for the next 4 years for a goalie with a .922 save % ? It would sure get everyone off the Voracek witch hunt!
ruxpin Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 Just now, King Knut said: Because we don't have enough mega long contracts for people to complain about? Could you imagine if we were paying $7million for the next 4 years for a goalie with a .922 save % ? It would sure get everyone off the Voracek witch hunt! Settle down! Your logic is killing my schtick!
King Knut Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, ruxpin said: Settle down! Your logic is killing my schtick! Sorry! Slow day. Idle hands are the Devil's Advocate's play things... or something something yadda yadda.
AJgoal Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, King Knut said: Okay, I'm going to play Devils advocate and not just because you brought up bears (Everyone knows that what Bryz really meant was that he was terrified of Neuwirth's Hershey Bears). Anyway... I'm going to be the jerk here and play Devil's Advocate: Rask's save % this year was .922. Neuwirth's was .914. Full stop. No, Neuvirth's was not. It was an .891. https://www.nhl.com/player/michal-neuvirth-8473607
AJgoal Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 Here's the tweet I was thinking of earlier: @radoran I'm probably overstating things, admittedly. My opinion is definitely colored a bit by his failure to close the deal on the Flyers in 2010, with among other things, this beauty:
King Knut Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 33 minutes ago, AJgoal said: Full stop. No, Neuvirth's was not. It was an .891. https://www.nhl.com/player/michal-neuvirth-8473607 Oh damn, you're right. I was accidentally looking at a different year. Of course Rasks's was actually only .915 this year. But you're right. Mike had a crappy year.
murraycraven Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 All you folks when Neuvy goes on a complete tear next season and Hak claims he "is the best goalie in the world." You all will be eating your words....
murraycraven Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, AJgoal said: Here's the tweet I was thinking of earlier: @radoran I'm probably overstating things, admittedly. My opinion is definitely colored a bit by his failure to close the deal on the Flyers in 2010, with among other things, this beauty: Floater....
radoran Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, King Knut said: Rask's save % this year was .922. Neuwirth's was .914. Neuvirth's was .891
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