hf101 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Unless Nashville comes back to win it all this year's recipient will again be a Pittsburgh Penguin. Sidney Crosby already has 3 more points than he did last year when he won the award. Evengi Malkin currently has 2 more goals and 2 more assists than Crosby. Jake Guentzel currently has 3 less points than Crosby, and leads the team with 12 goals including 5 game winning goals. Who would you give the MVP of the playoffs to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan4ever Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Pekke Rinne, because he's not a Pen......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I'd award it to MAF. If not for him, Washington loses to Ottawa in the ECF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 If the Pens go on to win, Jake Pretzel should get it for his incredible post season. Problem is Uncle Gary, Emrick, Eddie O and Regis will all want Crosby to win the Conn Smythe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I voted for Guentzel. Really like the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Could change. Nashville could win. As for the Pens? Guentzel is the leader in the clubhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blocker Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 20 hours ago, ruxpin said: I voted for Guentzel. Really like the kid. How would you like to be Guentzel right now? In the Stanley cup finals, scoring all those goals. Kid must be in the clouds. Good for him. Fun for him and fun for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Voted for Rinne simply because without him, the Preds don't advance to the SCF with all the injuries the Preds sustained during their playoff run. 2nd would be MAF. Again, without MAF, the Pens are at home right now playing golf with the Flyers. I have no problems if Guentzel wins it. The kid has been lights out. He seems well grounded. Too bad he is not in O&B. Great pick for the Pens (I think I just threw up there a bit). Can't believe I nabbed him with my 5th pick for the Fantasy Playoff League. If I would have picked another goalie besides Holtby, just maybe I would be in 1st place...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Guentzel at it again. And another semi-soft goal by Rinne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kings Redeem LA Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 5:04 AM, hf101 said: Unless Nashville comes back to win it all this year's recipient will again be a Pittsburgh Penguin. Sidney Crosby already has 3 more points than he did last year when he won the award. Evengi Malkin currently has 2 more goals and 2 more assists than Crosby. Jake Guentzel currently has 3 less points than Crosby, and leads the team with 12 goals including 5 game winning goals. Who would you give the MVP of the playoffs to? For me consistency needs to be an essential criterion for deciding a team's most valuable player during the playoffs. Which's why Evgeni Malkin would be my pick if the Conn Smythe were decided tonight. Guentzel's been amazing in places--and doing it as a rookie! He's already passed prior American hockey playoff studs and he's now gunning for Dino's goal record--but he's had droughts too: no goals in eight games, two points in seven games against Ottawa. The game-winning-goal thing gets weird for me in that it's not that impressive unless a goal breaks a tie late in the third period or finishes an overtime. If a player puts his team up 2 - 1 but his team tacks on three more scores, he still gets the GWG stat. Does anyone know how many if any GWGs from Guentzel this playoff run have been the sole difference in any battles decided by one goal? In the meantime and irrespective of that, Malkin's my man. Seems to me that he has consistently played well and produced night after night. Others in our community and in the media have commented how his stellar team-leading production has been quiet. And I've thought that too: thought it when I saw his Stanley stats were posted last series during a game and my brain blurted some version of Holy crap! Really? Really indeed. If Evgeni continues and if the Pens collect the Cup, his studly stats should get all kinds of loud Loud enough to win the Conn Smythe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I can't see Fleury winning if he doesn't play in the finals. I can't see Murray winning cause he's only going to play 7 games max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 7:04 AM, hf101 said: Who would you give the MVP of the playoffs to? Pekka Rinne after he steals this Cup from the Pens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kings Redeem LA Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 The Stanley Cup Finals always seems to have great subplots within its compelling narrative every year. This year one of those would be Frederick Gaudreau with the Predators. He's played only ten NHL games in his career. Scoring three goals: all of which have come this Final! Fantastic! Even more fantastic? The guy's done this after badly breaking his wrist and after doctors told him he wouldn't be able to play hockey again. Thankfully for us and for himself, he ignored the doctors, got better, and now this Finals proves richer because he made it here. Nicely done, Frederick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Wow, seems like a lifetime ago, when Dino was putting up those CRAZY stats as a rookie. All those North Star fans coming to the rink with the stuffed Dinosaurs!! That was some fun stuff! Now, we have Jake within a single goal of the fantastic totals that Dino put up, over 3 decades ago....that is a historic run, and *if* the Pens win, Jake wholeheartedly deserves the CS Trophy. If it's Smashville, you just gotta go with Pekka Rinne. A close second goes to Forsberg, who put up some awesome numbers right after Ryan Johansson was lost for the playoffs. If Forsberg does not come up big after the injury, the Preds may have lost faith. He filled the net when it really mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Has anyone noticed that Ciccarelli scored 14 in 19 playoff games while Guentzel will play his 24th on Thursday? At worst this is apples and oranges. At best it's Granny Smiths and McIntoshes. Kinda like how it's easier to break a rookie record for overtime goals when you play 3-on-3? Tremendous achievement for the rookie but it's not irrelevant to note that Ciccarelli went on to score 14 playoff goals over his next 43 playoff games and never broke double digit tallies in the playoffs for the remainder of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 54 minutes ago, radoran said: Kinda like how it's easier to break a rookie record for overtime goals when you play 3-on-3? Like easier to win a Cup when there is only 6 teams?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted June 9, 2017 Author Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/4/2017 at 0:37 AM, thenewestlights said: For me consistency needs to be an essential criterion for deciding a team's most valuable player during the playoffs. Which's why Evgeni Malkin would be my pick if the Conn Smythe were decided tonight. Guentzel's been amazing in places--and doing it as a rookie! He's already passed prior American hockey playoff studs and he's now gunning for Dino's goal record--but he's had droughts too: no goals in eight games, two points in seven games against Ottawa. The game-winning-goal thing gets weird for me in that it's not that impressive unless a goal breaks a tie late in the third period or finishes an overtime. If a player puts his team up 2 - 1 but his team tacks on three more goals, he still gets the GWG stat. Does anyone know how many if any GWGs from Guentzel this playoff run have been the sole difference in any battles decided by one goal? In the meantime and irrespective of that, Malkin's my man. Seems to me that he has consistently played well and produced night after night. Others in our community and in the media have commented how his stellar team-leading production has been quiet. And I've thought that too: thought it when I saw his Stanley stats were posted last series during a game and my brain blurted some version of Holy crap! Really? Really indeed. If Evgeni continues and if the Pens collect the Cup, his studly stats should get all kinds of loud Loud enough to win the Conn Smythe. Nice post. Guentzel has now tied Dino's record and is in the history books chances are he will get another point in the next game or two and he will have this record. -- A great accomplishment. I'm not sure if there have been many GWG for him that were over 1 goal other than the winner in OT that he had. You are right in the MVP will be who has consistently played well throughout the playoffs and that means to me it will come down to Crosby or Malkin. As of one or two more games left to play Malkin has only a 1 pt lead over Crosby. And while it probably should be Malkin's time for the MVP trophy I wouldn't at all be surprised if Crosby wins it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kings Redeem LA Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 5:38 AM, hf101 said: Nice post. Guentzel has now tied Dino's record and is in the history books chances are he will get another point in the next game or two and he will have this record. -- A great accomplishment. I'm not sure if there have been many GWG for him that were over 1 goal other than the winner in OT that he had. You are right in the MVP will be who has consistently played well throughout the playoffs and that means to me it will come down to Crosby or Malkin. As of one or two more games left to play Malkin has only a 1 pt lead over Crosby. And while it probably should be Malkin's time for the MVP trophy I wouldn't at all be surprised if Crosby wins it again. Sure enough. Crosby wins the Conn Smythe again. Wonder if Malkin would have won if he'd gotten a goal or assist in the game... Neither he nor Crosby scored. So Malkin finished as this year's leading scorer in the playoffs. Methinks he should've received the Smythe. I've argued the Malkin angle. Anyone care to make Sid's case? Here's some pitching from USA Today for Crosby which includes mention that Malkin got more playoff goals: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/columnist/allen/2017/06/10/sidney-crosby-conn-smythe-playoff-mvp-race/102701284/ Whadda ya think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 6 hours ago, thenewestlights said: Sure enough. Crosby wins the Conn Smythe again. Wonder if Malkin would have won if he'd gotten a goal or assist in the game... Neither he nor Crosby scored. So Malkin finished as this year's leading scorer in the playoffs. Methinks he should've received the Smythe. I've argued the Malkin angle. Anyone care to make Sid's case? Here's some pitching from USA Today for Crosby which includes mention that Malkin got more playoff goals: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/columnist/allen/2017/06/10/sidney-crosby-conn-smythe-playoff-mvp-race/102701284/ Whadda ya think? Honestly, Malkin isn't in the conversation for me. He had a nice playoffs, but Crosby stirs this drink. They were pushed to the brink a couple times, so I don't think they win this without either of them. Leadership and other responsibilities, Crosby in a walk for me. And then possibly Guentzel before Malkin just based on the huge /clutch nature of many of his goals. Nice playoffs for Malkin. Really rice. But he isn't MVP if I'm voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted June 12, 2017 Author Share Posted June 12, 2017 6 hours ago, thenewestlights said: I've argued the Malkin angle. Anyone care to make Sid's case? Did you not listen to Pierre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 8 hours ago, thenewestlights said: I've argued the Malkin angle. Anyone care to make Sid's case? Whadda ya think? I can try. Sure - Malkin had more points. 1 more. I said earlier in this post-season (Malkin was the leading point getter at that time, too) that it was the quietest however-many-points scored I could recall. It's not to take away from Malkin. He had a very good post-season (obviously) but just about every time Crosby had the puck in the offensive zone I thought something good was going to happen. When you have two world class players basically tied for the points lead I think the guy with the "C" gets the Smythe every time. If Guentzel had scored a goal or two in the final two games I think he would have gotten it. And besides, Malkin got his Smythe in '09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 1 minute ago, B21 said: I can try. Sure - Malkin had more points. 1 more. I said earlier in this post-season (Malkin was the leading point getter at that time, too) that it was the quietest however-many-points scored I could recall. It's not to take away from Malkin. He had a very good post-season (obviously) but just about every time Crosby had the puck in the offensive zone I thought something good was going to happen. When you have two world class players basically tied for the points lead I think the guy with the "C" gets the Smythe every time. If Guentzel had scored a goal or two in the final two games I think he would have gotten it. And besides, Malkin got his Smythe in '09. I think Malkin takes games off as well. Crosby is definitely a more consistent player...other than when injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kings Redeem LA Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 4 hours ago, hf101 said: Did you not listen to Pierre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kings Redeem LA Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 2 hours ago, B21 said: I can try. Sure - Malkin had more points. 1 more. I said earlier in this post-season (Malkin was the leading point getter at that time, too) that it was the quietest however-many-points scored I could recall. It's not to take away from Malkin. He had a very good post-season (obviously) but just about every time Crosby had the puck in the offensive zone I thought something good was going to happen. When you have two world class players basically tied for the points lead I think the guy with the "C" gets the Smythe every time. If Guentzel had scored a goal or two in the final two games I think he would have gotten it. I can dig. I wonder if voters faulted Malkin for some iffy play on the power play a couple different times. I know he scored a PPG, but I remember watching him wide open multiple times, and calling out: "Shoot the damned puck, Malkin!" Not only did he not listen to me he didn't pass or he'd lose possession. Quote And besides, Malkin got his Smythe in '09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nossagog Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Someone gave PK Subban a third place vote? If anyone on the Preds, Rinne should have gotten a vote or two for getting them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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