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Who do you say is the NHL's best shooter? This is someone who knows when to shoot instead of passing the puck to a team mate. For me I would say it is Alex Ovechkin.

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mojo1917    2,023

This year I think Laine from the 'peg becomes the best shooter.

He has maybe the top release in the league...just filthy, if not the quickest and hardest shot in the NHL it's top 2.

Plus I like that he plays with a little chip on his shoulder, he didn't like being drafted behind Matthews.

I like P Kane's nose for scoring too, he's great at changing the angle of his release at the last second. 

 

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jammer2    4,673
1 hour ago, mojo1917 said:

This year I think Laine from the 'peg becomes the best shooter.

He has maybe the top release in the league...just filthy, if not the quickest and hardest shot in the NHL it's top 2.

Plus I like that he plays with a little chip on his shoulder, he didn't like being drafted behind Matthews.

I like P Kane's nose for scoring too, he's great at changing the angle of his release at the last second. 

 

 

 Totally agree, that shot of Laine's is just wicked. He can pick a corner with just the size of the puck open....consistently. Just one of those kids with a God given shot. He actually reminds me a bit of Mike Bossy. 

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I'd like to nominate either Anaheim's Rickard Rakell or Nashville's Viktor Arvidsson.

 

Both those guys had career years and their production rivaled that of Laine.

But also, both Arvidsson and Rakell shoot with very good accuracy, particularly from the mid to close ranges.

Seems to me, whenever either of those two got a clean shot at the goalie or they got into a one on one with a netminder, more often than not, they came out on top.

 

Rakell in particular, seems to have a very good accurate shot no matter where on the ice he happens to be.

According to last season's stats, he had a shooting % of nearly 19%, while overall, hitting the net on all his shots nearly 68% of the time.

Pretty impressive, especially for a guy who spent most of his time on the 2nd line with Ryan Kesler as opposed to the top line with Getzlaf and Perry.

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Podein25    2,896
14 minutes ago, TropicalFruitGirl26 said:

I'd like to nominate either Anaheim's Rickard Rakell or Nashville's Viktor Arvidsson.

 

Both those guys had career years and their production rivaled that of Laine.

But also, both Arvidsson and Rakell shoot with very good accuracy, particularly from the mid to close ranges.

Seems to me, whenever either of those two got a clean shot at the goalie or they got into a one on one with a netminder, more often than not, they came out on top.

 

Rakell in particular, seems to have a very good accurate shot no matter where on the ice he happens to be.

According to last season's stats, he had a shooting % of nearly 19%, while overall, hitting the net on all his shots nearly 68% of the time.

Pretty impressive, especially for a guy who spent most of his time on the 2nd line with Ryan Kesler as opposed to the top line with Getzlaf and Perry.

 

Laine's shot is still the best I've seen. Quickest release, hardest/fastest, deadly accurate.

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AlaskaFlyerFan    936

Can't really disagree with any of the guys mentioned above except Ovechkin (he shoots way too much and at times when he shouldn't).  But, here is my thought.  The player with the most goals in the least amount of shots has the best/most accurate shot.  In other words, the highest shooting percentage.  It's the only way to quantify this.  That player is T.J. Oshie.  33 goals in 143 shots for a 23.1% shooting percentage.

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jammer2    4,673
2 hours ago, Podein25 said:

 

Laine's shot is still the best I've seen. Quickest release, hardest/fastest, deadly accurate.

 

 It really is an honour to watch the kid play/shoot. The fun part is the Jets are slowly building an offensive juggernaut, and Laine is gonna be front and center. The speed and skill of the Jets offensive core is going to present very bad mismatches for opposing teams. The tighten up that defense and goaltending they are gonna be legit contenders for a decade or so. 

 

 Did you like the Kulikov signing for the Jets?  I thought the whole thing was a waste. To long, to much money for a guy who stunk the joint out in Buffalo last year. His last few years on the Panthers were not exactly awe inspiring either. They did not need this guy.

 

  Short term it might take playing time away from Josh Morrisey, who looked better and better as the year wore on. Long term, it may block the arrival of Logan Stanley, who was a BEAST in the Memorial Cup. I've always been critical of Logan, but I'm seeing some REAL progress and a potential NHL star at some point. I think the Jets really hit on this one. 

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Podein25    2,896
4 hours ago, jammer2 said:

 

 It really is an honour to watch the kid play/shoot. The fun part is the Jets are slowly building an offensive juggernaut, and Laine is gonna be front and center. The speed and skill of the Jets offensive core is going to present very bad mismatches for opposing teams. The tighten up that defense and goaltending they are gonna be legit contenders for a decade or so. 

 

 Did you like the Kulikov signing for the Jets?  I thought the whole thing was a waste. To long, to much money for a guy who stunk the joint out in Buffalo last year. His last few years on the Panthers were not exactly awe inspiring either. They did not need this guy.

 

  Short term it might take playing time away from Josh Morrisey, who looked better and better as the year wore on. Long term, it may block the arrival of Logan Stanley, who was a BEAST in the Memorial Cup. I've always been critical of Logan, but I'm seeing some REAL progress and a potential NHL star at some point. I think the Jets really hit on this one. 

 

Agreed on the potential Jets' offense.

 

Re: Kulikov, I'm inclined to agree on too much. Hopefully he can still play. I think the Jets had trouble in the trade market: at least two trades for D-men were scuddled by No Trade clauses, maybe more. They got what they could in the FA market.

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jammer2    4,673
42 minutes ago, Podein25 said:

 

Agreed on the potential Jets' offense.

 

Re: Kulikov, I'm inclined to agree on too much. Hopefully he can still play. I think the Jets had trouble in the trade market: at least two trades for D-men were scuddled by No Trade clauses, maybe more. They got what they could in the FA market.

 

 The whole thing to me feels like a square peg in a round hole. Even with the departures of Brad Stuart who they let walk away (smart move btw) and depth defenseman Paul Postma heading to Boston as a UFA, they had respectable depth. 

 

1)Jacob Trouba

2)Dustin Byfuglien

3)Josh Morrissey

4)Tyler Myers

5)Toby Enstrom

6)Ben Chariot...

 

 I don't see Kulikov better than ANY of the top 4 I listed, SO....the Jets are paying 4.3 mill annually for 3 years for a bottom pairing D-man???  That is a waste of cap space, especially when they have kids who could have filled that spot. I guess if you are STINKY in Buffalo, there is only one way to go, huh? 

 

Those are 5 SOLID d and I have always liked Chariot as a depth guy, heart and soul type who shows up for every game!

 

 I know the Jets are high on this Poolman kid, who has a shot to make an impact this coming training camp. 

 

Logan Stanley is one year away, but WILL be an NHL dman, I think he grew and inch and is now 6'8...think he is done now...LOL!

 

Don't know much about Julian Melchiori, but he played a few games for the Jets last year and is big at 6'5. 

 

Some say Poolman might have made it this year, so the Jets effectively blocked him by signing Kulikov.....they will regret this deal, mark my words. 

 

 

 

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Podein25    2,896
46 minutes ago, jammer2 said:

 

 The whole thing to me feels like a square peg in a round hole. Even with the departures of Brad Stuart who they let walk away (smart move btw) and depth defenseman Paul Postma heading to Boston as a UFA, they had respectable depth. 

 

1)Jacob Trouba

2)Dustin Byfuglien

3)Josh Morrissey

4)Tyler Myers

5)Toby Enstrom

6)Ben Chariot...

 

 I don't see Kulikov better than ANY of the top 4 I listed, SO....the Jets are paying 4.3 mill annually for 3 years for a bottom pairing D-man???  That is a waste of cap space, especially when they have kids who could have filled that spot. I guess if you are STINKY in Buffalo, there is only one way to go, huh? 

 

Those are 5 SOLID d and I have always liked Chariot as a depth guy, heart and soul type who shows up for every game!

 

 I know the Jets are high on this Poolman kid, who has a shot to make an impact this coming training camp. 

 

Logan Stanley is one year away, but WILL be an NHL dman, I think he grew and inch and is now 6'8...think he is done now...LOL!

 

Don't know much about Julian Melchiori, but he played a few games for the Jets last year and is big at 6'5. 

 

Some say Poolman might have made it this year, so the Jets effectively blocked him by signing Kulikov.....they will regret this deal, mark my words. 

 

 

Yeah, I've heard the same about Poolman. I think he's close, but likely needs a year in the AHL. Still, you make a good point.

 

I like Chairot too. He's got a canon actually, don't know if you know that.

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jammer2    4,673
1 hour ago, Podein25 said:

 

Yeah, I've heard the same about Poolman. I think he's close, but likely needs a year in the AHL. Still, you make a good point.

 

I like Chairot too. He's got a canon actually, don't know if you know that.

 

 Yeah, I have seen Chariot unload the cannon. You are right though, most fans don't know, cause he does not shoot nearly enough. I'd like to see him get at least 3 or 4 a game, as long as he gets it on net or is not sacrificing a smarter play. 

 

 If things go the way I think, Morrissey is on the cusp of stardom. He bloomed a tad late, but this guy shows flashes of being electric. What an awesome skating stride he owns!! Suburb vision and smarts also....like off the charts wicked. He is gonna be something once he gets fully accustomed to the league. 

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flyercanuck    6,432
14 hours ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said:

Can't really disagree with any of the guys mentioned above except Ovechkin (he shoots way too much and at times when he shouldn't).  But, here is my thought.  The player with the most goals in the least amount of shots has the best/most accurate shot.  In other words, the highest shooting percentage.  It's the only way to quantify this.  That player is T.J. Oshie.  33 goals in 143 shots for a 23.1% shooting percentage.

 

That shooting percentage is almost double his career number. In other words, last season was a fluke. That doesn't make him the best sniper in the league. 

 

Laine only has one season under his belt...but his shooting % is about 4 over Oshies career. At 18. On a much worse team than Oshie plays on.

 

Ovechkin does shoot way too much. His team would fair better if he wasn't such a goal suck.

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AlaskaFlyerFan    936
2 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

 

That shooting percentage is almost double his career number. In other words, last season was a fluke. That doesn't make him the best sniper in the league. 

 

Laine only has one season under his belt...but his shooting % is about 4 over Oshies career. At 18. On a much worse team than Oshie plays on.

 

Ovechkin does shoot way too much. His team would fair better if he wasn't such a goal suck.

 

 There is no doubt that Laine has an incredible shot. But I don't think you can compare their career numbers at this point. Too much difference in sample size.  :notfair:

 

 

 

 

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Podein25    2,896
10 hours ago, jammer2 said:

 

 Yeah, I have seen Chariot unload the cannon. You are right though, most fans don't know, cause he does not shoot nearly enough. I'd like to see him get at least 3 or 4 a game, as long as he gets it on net or is not sacrificing a smarter play. 

 

 If things go the way I think, Morrissey is on the cusp of stardom. He bloomed a tad late, but this guy shows flashes of being electric. What an awesome skating stride he owns!! Suburb vision and smarts also....like off the charts wicked. He is gonna be something once he gets fully accustomed to the league. 

 

Yeah agreed on all this. Just back to Kulikov, one of things you have to factor in is he's LH. This has been a problem for the Jets, the whole Trouba not wanting to play on his back hand side thing. They clearly wanted to solve since the other guy they clearly tried to acquire - Emelin - is also LH.

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jammer2    4,673
9 hours ago, Podein25 said:

 

Yeah agreed on all this. Just back to Kulikov, one of things you have to factor in is he's LH. This has been a problem for the Jets, the whole Trouba not wanting to play on his back hand side thing. They clearly wanted to solve since the other guy they clearly tried to acquire - Emelin - is also LH.

 

 This makes sense, the RH/LH thing. It really does matter comfort wise for dmen. Thing is, Logan Stanley shoots left and has quite the rocket on him. He arrives in the fall of 2018 (fairly sure about that, one more year in the O and he's good IMHO). All round, Logan Stanley is quite close to Kulikov in terms of overall skill set. Who knows, I could see Enstrom moving on and Logan and Kulikov being on the team at the same time. 

 

 Off topic, but these are big years for Armia and Nic Petan.....and to a lesser extent, Kyle Connor. I think Kyle is SO damn talented, they will not be able to hold him back, he's a permanent Jet probably after Christmas. 

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flyercanuck    6,432
20 hours ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said:

 

 There is no doubt that Laine has an incredible shot. But I don't think you can compare their career numbers at this point. Too much difference in sample size.  :notfair:

 

 

 

 

 

I agree. But using one year of Oshies that is double his usual % is every bit as unfair. If he's not doing that every year, he clearly isn't that guy.

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musky    1

Tarvares or benn is the best.

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jammer2    4,673

Just taking a look at the all time list of NHL's best ever shooting percentage for career...some surprises, and some expected....Craig Simpson....would have NEVER guessed that. Charlie Simmer and Mike Bossy in the top 5, yeah, seen that coming...Yvon Lambert another big surprise but then "nifty Ricky" Middleton is not a surprise...I've always thought Blaine Stoughton was underrated, although maybe a product of the no defense era of the 80's....like seeing the magic man in there, Kent Nillson never gets talked about enough. If you EVER thought Illka Sinasalo would appear on this list ahead of Wayne Gretzky, props....LOL!

 

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1. Craig Simpson 1985-95 23.66
2. Charlie Simmer 1974-88 22.34
3. Paul MacLean 1980-91 21.41
4. Mike Bossy* 1977-87 21.18
5. Yvon Lambert 1972-82 19.85
6. Rick Middleton 1974-88 19.69
7. Blaine Stoughton 1973-84 19.52
8. Darryl Sutter 1979-87 19.42
9. Rob Brown 1987-00 19.41
10. Mike Ridley 1985-97 19.30
11. Steve Vickers 1972-82 19.28
12. Kent Nilsson 1979-95 19.21
13. Tom McCarthy 1979-88 19.16
14. Jari Kurri* 1980-98 19.13
15. John Bucyk* 1955-78 19.09
16. Mario Lemieux* 1984-06 18.99
17. Peter Stastny* 1980-95 18.96
18. Ray Ferraro 1984-02 18.85
19. Mark Hunter 1981-93 18.78
20. Tim Kerr 1980-93 18.77
21. Peter McNab 1973-87 18.56
22. Alex Tanguay 1999-16 18.56
23. Mats Naslund 1982-95 18.47
24. Gary Roberts 1986-09 18.45
25. Bryan Trottier* 1975-94 18.44
26. Cam Neely* 1983-96 18.39
27. Pat Elynuik 1987-96 18.38
28. Keith Crowder 1980-90 18.16
29. Anton Stastny 1980-89 18.03
30. Joe Mullen* 1981-97 18.01
31. Brian Sutter 1976-88 17.97
32. Paul Gardner 1976-86 17.87
33. Dave Taylor 1977-94 17.86
34. Yvan Cournoyer* 1963-79 17.85
35. Mike Bullard 1980-92 17.79
36. Craig Janney 1987-99 17.79
37. Bernie Federko* 1976-90 17.77
38. Don Maloney 1978-91 17.76
39. Ilkka Sinisalo 1981-92 17.72
40. Andrew Brunette 1995-12 17.68
41. Jim Pappin 1963-77 17.67
42. Steve Shutt* 1972-85 17.63
43. John Tonelli 1978-92 17.61
44. Wayne Gretzky* 1979-99 17.57
45. Pat LaFontaine* 1983-98 17.56
46. Jimmy Carson 1986-96 17.55
47. Pierre Mondou 1977-85 17.48
48. Jean Ratelle* 1960-81 17.45
49. Michel Goulet* 1979-94 17.44
50. Joe Nieuwendyk* 1986-07 17.40
51. Mark Parrish 1998-11 17.32
52. Carey Wilson 1983-93 17.30
53. Pierre Larouche 1974-88 17.26
54. Jim Fox 1980-90 17.17
55. Bob Berry 1968-77 17.17
56. Hakan Loob 1983-89 17.14
57. Steven Stamkos 2008-17 17.11
58. Dmitri Khristich 1990-02 17.08
59. Kelly Kisio 1982-95 16.99
60. Rick Vaive 1979-92 16.95
61. Petr Klima 1985-99 16.95
62. Ray Sheppard 1987-00 16.89
63. Luc Robitaille* 1986-06 16.86
64. Andrei Kovalenko 1992-01 16.83
65. Stan Weir 1972-83 16.83
66. Mark Napier 1978-89 16.82
67. Al Secord 1978-90 16.76
68. Mike Foligno 1979-94 16.72
69. Gilbert Perreault* 1970-87 16.63
70. Morris Lukowich 1979-87 16.54
71. Tom Fergus 1981-93 16.53
72. Butch Goring 1969-85 16.45
  Marc Tardif 1969-83 16.45
74. Mark Messier* 1979-04 16.45
75. Darcy Rota 1973-84 16.43
76. Dino Ciccarelli* 1980-99 16.41
77. Walt Poddubny 1981-92 16.37
78. Alan Haworth 1980-88 16.34
79. Pierre Turgeon 1987-07 16.33
80. Tomas Holmstrom 1996-12 16.32
81. Mike Rogers 1979-86 16.32
82. Terry O'Reilly 1971-85 16.27
83. Miroslav Frycer 1981-89 16.21
84. Bill Derlago 1978-87 16.17
85. Igor Larionov* 1989-04 16.16
86. Ken Hodge 1964-78 16.15
87. Thomas Gradin 1978-87 16.11
88. Mike Krushelnyski 1981-95 16.11
89. Eric Lindros* 1992-07 16.09
90. Gerard Gallant 1984-95 16.07
91. Paul Holmgren 1975-85 16.04
92. Glenn Anderson* 1980-96 16.02
93. Barry Pederson 1980-92 15.97
94. Dennis Maruk 1975-89 15.97
95. Alexander Mogilny 1989-06 15.95
96. Real Cloutier 1979-85 15.92
97. Jorgen Pettersson 1980-86 15.92
98. Dennis Ververgaert 1973-81 15.91
99. Guy Lafleur* 1971-91 15.90
100. Pat Verbeek 1982-02 15.90
101. Dave Poulin 1982-95 15.89
102. Doug Gilmour* 1983-03 15.88
103. Wayne Cashman 1964-83 15.87
104. Brenden Morrow 1999-15 15.87
105. Bengt-Ake Gustafsson 1979-89 15.86
106. Dale Hunter 1980-99 15.79
107. Willi Plett 1975-88 15.77
108. Greg Gilbert 1981-96 15.76
109. Patrik Sundstrom 1982-92 15.76
110. Pat Hickey 1975-85 15.74
111. Steve Larmer 1980-95 15.73
112. Rick Tocchet 1984-02 15.70
113. Dave Christian 1979-94 15.69
114. Tony Tanti 1981-92 15.67
115. Ken Linseman 1978-92 15.67
116. Mike Ricci 1990-07 15.66
117. Keith Primeau 1990-06 15.66
118. John Tucker 1983-96 15.64
119. Jeremy Roenick 1988-09 15.64
120. Craig Ramsay 1971-85 15.61
121. Eric Vail 1973-82 15.56
122. John LeClair 1990-07 15.55
123. Pit Martin 1961-79 15.53
124. Jason Allison 1993-06 15.49
125. Al MacAdam 1973-85 15.48
126. Ric Seiling 1977-87 15.47
127. Bob Kudelski 1987-96 15.44
128. Brad Marchand 2009-17 15.43
129. Frank Mahovlich* 1956-74 15.40
130. Ziggy Palffy 1993-06 15.40
131. Bob MacMillan 1974-85 15.35
132. Errol Thompson 1970-81 15.35
133. Ryan Walter 1978-93 15.35
134. Tony McKegney 1978-91 15.30
135. Chuck Lefley 1970-81 15.27
136. Greg Adams 1984-01 15.26
137. Andre Savard 1973-85 15.25
138. Keith Tkachuk 1991-10 15.24
139. Pat Boutette 1975-85 15.23
140. Adam Deadmarsh 1994-03 15.22
141. Adam Creighton 1983-97 15.22
142. Brett Hull* 1986-06 15.20
143. Randy Burridge 1985-98 15.19
144. Rick Martin 1971-82 15.18
145. Anson Carter 1996-07 15.18
146. Brent Sutter 1980-98 15.17
147. Ken Houston 1975-84 15.16
148. Ron Duguay 1977-89 15.15
149. Greg Paslawski 1983-94 15.11
150. Mark Recchi 1988-11 15.10
151. Tyler Bozak 2009-17 15.08
152. Brian MacLellan 1982-92 15.07
153. Teemu Selanne 1992-14 15.07
154. Blake Dunlop 1973-84 15.06
155. Guy Chouinard 1974-84 15.06
156. Denis Savard* 1980-97 15.05
157. Steve Yzerman* 1983-06 15.04
158. Martin Straka 1992-08 15.00
159. Dan Quinn 1983-97 14.99
160. Troy Murray 1981-96 14.98
161. Benoit Hogue 1987-02 14.98
162. Jiri Hudler 2003-17 14.98
163. Ulf Dahlen 1987-03 14.95
164. Gary Dornhoefer 1963-78 14.91
165. John Cullen 1988-99 14.86
166. Valeri Kamensky 1991-02 14.86
167. Don Marcotte 1965-82 14.86
168. Wayne Babych 1978-87 14.84
169. Bob Bourne 1974-88 14.83
170. Doug Smail 1980-93 14.78
171. Stephane Richer 1984-02 14.78
172. Doug Shedden 1981-91 14.76
173. Ron Sedlbauer 1974-81 14.73
174. Brent Ashton 1979-93 14.72
175. Yanic Perreault 1993-08 14.72
176. Sidney Crosby 2005-17 14.71
177. Peter Forsberg* 1994-11 14.71
178. Bernie Nicholls 1981-99 14.70
179. Bob Probert 1985-02 14.70
180. Andrew McBain 1983-94 14.69
181. Sergei Nemchinov 1991-02 14.67
182. Steve Tambellini 1978-88 14.64
183. Dave Balon 1959-73 14.63
184. Ron Francis* 1981-04 14.62
185. Rejean Houle 1969-83 14.62
186. Derek King 1986-00 14.61
187. Curtis Glencross 2006-15 14.61
188. Ray Neufeld 1979-90 14.59
189. Peter Zezel 1984-99 14.59
190. Jonathan Toews 2007-17 14.58
191. Tim Higgins 1978-89 14.58
192. Milan Lucic 2007-17 14.55
193. Laurie Boschman 1979-93 14.54
194. Lanny McDonald* 1973-89 14.52
195. Mike McPhee 1983-94 14.51
196. Dany Heatley 2001-15 14.50
197. Mel Bridgman 1975-89 14.49
198. Don Lever 1972-87 14.48
199. Nathan Horton 2003-14 14.48
200. Mark Johnson 1979-90 14.46
201. Mike Ribeiro 1999-17 14.42
202. Tomas Sandstrom 1984-99 14.37
203. Joel Otto 1984-98 14.37
204. Craig MacTavish 1979-97 14.34
205. Dale McCourt 1977-84 14.34
206. Ivan Boldirev 1970-85 14.34
207. John Ogrodnick 1979-93 14.29
208. Perry Turnbull 1979-88 14.29
209. Thomas Vanek 2005-17 14.27
210. Steve Reinprecht 1999-11 14.27
211. Cliff Koroll 1969-80 14.27
212. Adam Oates* 1985-04 14.26
213. Peter Bondra 1990-07 14.25
214. Doug Risebrough 1974-87 14.23
215. Greg Malone 1976-87 14.20
216. Troy Brouwer 2006-17 14.19
217. Clark Gillies* 1974-88 14.17
218. Steve Jensen 1975-82 14.12
219. Daniel Briere 1997-15 14.12
220. Bob Nevin 1957-76 14.12
221. Kevin Stevens 1987-02 14.11
222. Anders Hedberg 1978-85 14.11
223. Bob Sweeney 1986-96 14.11
224. Stephane Matteau 1990-03 14.10
225. Wendel Clark 1985-00 14.10
226. Robert Lang 1992-10 14.09
227. Steve Payne 1978-88 14.08
228. Rick Kehoe 1971-85 14.07
229. Pavol Demitra 1993-10 14.07
230. Doug Sulliman 1979-90 14.07
231. Nik Antropov 1999-13 14.07
232. Eric Daze 1994-06 14.06
233. Milan Hejduk 1998-13 14.06
234. Miroslav Satan 1995-10 14.06
235. John Anderson 1977-89 14.06
236. Ilya Kovalchuk 2001-13 14.05
237. Jean Pronovost 1968-82 14.05
238. Dave Andreychuk 1982-06 14.05
239. Mats Sundin* 1990-09 14.05
240. Petr Nedved 1990-07 14.05
241. Ron Ellis 1963-81 14.04
242. Pete Mahovlich 1965-81 14.03
243. Mike Corrigan 1967-78 14.00
244. Phil Esposito* 1963-81 13.99
245. Pavel Datsyuk 2001-16 13.99
246. Lucien DeBlois 1977-92 13.99
247. Vaclav Nedomansky 1977-83 13.97
248. Murray Craven 1982-00 13.97
249. Steve Kasper 1980-93 13.97
250. Tony Hrkac 1987-03 13.97
 
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AlaskaFlyerFan    936
On 7/9/2017 at 5:12 AM, flyercanuck said:

 

I agree. But using one year of Oshies that is double his usual % is every bit as unfair. If he's not doing that every year, he clearly isn't that guy.

 

It's one year against one year, head to head!?!  How is that not fair???

 

 

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flyercanuck    6,432
4 hours ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said:

 

It's one year against one year, head to head!?!  How is that not fair???

 

 

 

Because when you look at his shooting %, last year is way off the mark from every other year. Way off. In other words, a fluke.

 

14/18/12/19/7/21/19/26/33...do those really look like the numbers of the leagues best sniper? Ovechkin for example has more goals in his last 4 seasons than Oshie has in 9.  Every team is trying to stop him, and Backstrom. That leaves Oshie lots of time and space.

 

The guy wasn't even a top ten goal scorer last season...even with a shooting percentage double his usual mark. If we're going strictly on %, Samuel Henley scored on 100% of his shots last season. That's also his career shooting percentage. Amazing...innit?  :IDunnoSmiley:

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AlaskaFlyerFan    936
3 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

 

Because when you look at his shooting %, last year is way off the mark from every other year. Way off. In other words, a fluke.

 

14/18/12/19/7/21/19/26/33...do those really look like the numbers of the leagues best sniper? Ovechkin for example has more goals in his last 4 seasons than Oshie has in 9.  Every team is trying to stop him, and Backstrom. That leaves Oshie lots of time and space.

 

I can't argue with any of that. Actually, I'm having a hard time arguing for Oshie to begin with.  

 

3 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

If we're going strictly on %, Samuel Henley scored on 100% of his shots last season. That's also his career shooting percentage. Amazing...innit?  

 

 Oshie scored 33 times the number of goals that Henley scored.  Who would you rather have on your team? Sam Hanley or TJ Oshie?

 

My argument is that the player that scored the most goals on the least amount of shots is the best shooter.  I think I even spelled that out in my first post in this thread. Would you expect Craig Simpson to be the all-time shooting percentage leader?  

 

 

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flyercanuck    6,432
53 minutes ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said:

 

I can't argue with any of that. Actually, I'm having a hard time arguing for Oshie to begin with.  

 

 

 Oshie scored 33 times the number of goals that Henley scored.  Who would you rather have on your team? Sam Hanley or TJ Oshie?

 

My argument is that the player that scored the most goals on the least amount of shots is the best shooter.  I think I even spelled that out in my first post in this thread. Would you expect Craig Simpson to be the all-time shooting percentage leader?  

 

 

 

I agree shooting percentage should factor in. (So should linemates and the team you play on). I threw in Henley because Oshies last season was an outlier...as was Henleys single game.

 

 I'd prefer to call the best shooter in the league the guy who does it consistently. I just don't think Oshie is that guy.

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My choice for the best shot would be Shea Weber hands down. I am partial to big beastly defensemen and his slapper would put the fear of god into anyone. There is nobody in the game whose shot I enjoy more than his.

 

among forwards I like guys who are a bit different, Larkin for the Wings was dreadful last year but he has made a habit of scoring from almost impossible angles almost behind the goal line even. He needs to shoot more as he is very accurate but that will come with time.

 

  The number one forward as far as I am concerned shooting wise is Marchand in Boston. Love him or hate him the man is a risk taker and shoots accurately from anywhere. He has a hard accurate shot and can fire with power and accuracy while on the move even which is a rare talent.

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AlaskaFlyerFan    936

Well, everyone has their own opinion on who and how to measure who the best shooter is.  And I'm not sure any of them are wrong (or right for that matter).

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