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A Take on Giroux in 2017-18

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7 hours ago, Podein25 said:

 

$4 USD is like $32 CDN or something

 Sorry for my delayed response. I was packing up my household goods for my move to Canada where I will be a multi-thousandaire!!

 

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Happy 30th birthday Clod!!!

 

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You are officially old by sports standards!!!!!!

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On 1/11/2018 at 10:39 AM, OccamsRazor said:

 

The draft would be a great time. But i would ship him out West. Wouldn't want him punishing my Flyers.

 

I wouldn't let him play in his hometown but i would trade him close enough.....so Winnipeg Jets would be close enough.

 

So if it was out to Winny i would want a trade centered around Kristian Vesalainen in returned and....6-2 210 center.

 

 

 

 

Simmonds has a modified NTC where he submits a list of 12 teams we can't trade him to. Those lists usually involve most of the Canadian teams, so Winnipeg might be difficult to trade him to 

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32 minutes ago, RJ8812 said:

 

Simmonds has a modified NTC where he submits a list of 12 teams we can't trade him to. Those lists usually involve most of the Canadian teams, so Winnipeg might be difficult to trade him to 

 

 

I guess it could be. Can't say without know. This is just a pipe dream to begin with.

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