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I don't usually get into these things, but this thread is inspired by the Lehtera #15 thread. 

 

I stumbled across this link:
https://www.nhl.com/news/hockeys-best-players-by-the-numbers-they-wore/c-536766

 

It lists the best player, runner up, and "also in the mix" for each number.   I don't have a problem with many.    It hurts my eyes to see Brian Leetch over Mark Howe at #2, but I get it.

 

#13  How does everyone feel about Matts Sundin over Pavel Datsyuk?   I was a fan of the latter, but I'm in the minority that never thought much of Sundin.

#16.  I'm okay with Brett Hull over Bobby Clarke.  Begrudgingly.   But I cannot get behind Marcel Dionne as runner up over Clarke.

#19  Yzerman over Sakic.    I'm okay with this, but I imagine that has to create debate.

#28  Steve Duchesne is in the mix?   The #28 must suck historically.

 

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Quick glance at the list of numbers 0-33, only one really stands out to me as perhaps being erroneous:  I'd put Selanne over Ovechkin for the #8 for a couple reasons....

1--Selanne played a complete career (more than complete in fact) where he continued to be a productive player at a high level (and not just a 'compiler') well beyond his prime years...

2-- AND, I hate to beat a dead Russian horse, but he has that Cup win that has eluded and continues to elude, Ovechkin.

 

I like Cam Neely in the mix, although injuries cut short his career...perhaps he could have been the real 'Great 8' had he been able to play into his late 30's/early 40's.

 

 

Other comments on other numbers: Yzerman and Sakic are a pick'em for #19, IMO, although, if you factor in their post playing careers, Yzerman is a MUCH better GM than Sakic, if current results are anything to go by.

 

#20-- I suppose Luc Robitaille deserves to be there....I might be biased against him because I saw him play in the mid to late 90's and at that point, he was a still-good, but not great player, and I didn't think of him as anything special.  Dino Ciccerelli, on the other hand, continued to be a pestering. agitating, scoring bulldog right down to his retirement.....plus he played a bit for the Lightning, and was very popular when he did, thus my bias towards him over Luc.

 

#25--- I think Andreychuk and Nieuwendyk here are a pick'em also.

 

#29-- Only mentioning this one because it really made me laugh out loud...literally. Ken Dryden and Joel Otto in the same conversation for greatness.........uhh, yea.....pass the pipe....

 

#32--- I think maybe, perhaps, per chance, I take Claude Lemieux here over Dale Hunter.  I know, I know, everyone hates Claude, but talk about a guy who not only played well in the regular season, but seemed to always turn things up a notch or three for the playoffs....and that bag full of Stanley Cups  he has don't hurt his cause either....

 

Going back down to #4, can't argue with Bobby Orr, but, again, biased because I saw him play (and I was always scared for my hometown players whenever they faced him), Scott Stevens is deserving of being "in the mix".  That man pretty much personified 90's defensive hockey, shot blocking, freight train hits (with some head shots, yea, they were more ok back then), and just plain ol mean-ness.

 

 

I'll comment on the other numbers when I get a chance, but the above is my take on what I saw so far.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, TropicalFruitGirl26 said:

I'd put Selanne over Ovechkin for the #8 for a couple reasons....

1--Selanne played a complete career (more than complete in fact) where he continued to be a productive player at a high level (and not just a 'compiler') well beyond his prime years...

2-- AND, I hate to beat a dead Russian horse, but he has that Cup win that has eluded and continues to elude, Ovechkin

 

Yeah, I looked several times at that myself.  I'm with you on that one.

 

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#32--- I think maybe, perhaps, per chance, I take Claude Lemieux here over Dale Hunter.  I know, I know, everyone hates Claude, but talk about a guy who not only played well in the regular season, but seemed to always turn things up a notch or three for the playoffs....and that bag full of Stanley Cups  he has don't hurt his cause either....

 

Everyone not a Cap fan hated Hunter, too, but I'd have taken him on my team any day.   Lemieux won Cups but I don't know that I'd argue that his teams won because of him.   I don't know that I'd argue they'd have won without him, necessarily, either.    It may be a pick'em.  They both had some skill and both were a PITA to play against.

 

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#20-- I suppose Luc Robitaille deserves to be there....I might be biased against him because I saw him play in the mid to late 90's and at that point, he was a still-good, but not great player, and I didn't think of him as anything special.  Dino Ciccerelli, on the other hand, continued to be a pestering. agitating, scoring bulldog right down to his retirement.....plus he played a bit for the Lightning, and was very popular when he did, thus my bias towards him over Luc.

 

#25--- I think Andreychuk and Nieuwendyk here are a pick'em also.

 

Robitaille/Ciccerelli made me pause, too.  I think Robitaille gets it, largely because I hated Dino.   Really close there.

 

Agree on #25

 

 

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1 hour ago, ruxpin said:

I don't usually get into these things, but this thread is inspired by the Lehtera #15 thread. 

 

I stumbled across this link:
https://www.nhl.com/news/hockeys-best-players-by-the-numbers-they-wore/c-536766

 

It lists the best player, runner up, and "also in the mix" for each number.   I don't have a problem with many.    It hurts my eyes to see Brian Leetch over Mark Howe at #2, but I get it.

 

#13  How does everyone feel about Matts Sundin over Pavel Datsyuk?   I was a fan of the latter, but I'm in the minority that never thought much of Sundin.

#16.  I'm okay with Brett Hull over Bobby Clarke.  Begrudgingly.   But I cannot get behind Marcel Dionne as runner up over Clarke.

#19  Yzerman over Sakic.    I'm okay with this, but I imagine that has to create debate.

#28  Steve Duchesne is in the mix?   The #28 must suck historically.

 

 

:PostAwardsm:

 

 

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The Scott Morrison book (shown above) was published in 2007, but here were the picks in the book:

 

00: John Davidson

0: Neil Sheehy

1: Terry Sawchuk

2: Doug Harvey

3: Scott Stevens

4: Bobby Orr

5: Denis Potvin

6: Ace Bailey

7: Howie Morenz

8: Cam Neely

9: Gordie Howe

10: Guy Lafleur

11: Mark Messier

12: Dickie Moore

13: Mats Sundin

14: Dave Keon

15: Milt Schmidt

16: Henri Richard

17: Jari Kurri

18: Denis Savard

19: Steve Yzerman

20: Luc Robitaille

 

tbc...

 

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21: Stan Mikita

22: Mike Bossy

23: Bob Gainey

24: Chris Chelios

25: Jacques Lemaire

26: Peter Stastny

27: Frank Mahovlich

28: Steve Larmer

29: Ken Dryden

30: Martin Brodeur

31: Grant Fuhr

32: Dale Hunter

33: Patrick Roy

34: John Vanbiesbrouck

35: Tony Esposito

36: Glenn Anderson

37: Olie Kolzig

38: Dave Andreychuk

39: Dominik Hasek

40: Henrik Zetterberg

 

tbc...

 

 

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41: Stu Barnes

42: Sergei Makarov

43: Martin Biron

44: Chris Pronger

45: Brenden Morrow

46: Martin St. Louis

47: Viktor Kozlov

48: Daniel Briere

49: Brian Savage

50: Trevor Letowski

51: Brian Campbell

52: Adam Foote

53: Nikolai Khabibulin

54: Hannu Toivonen

55: Larry Murphy

56: Sergei Zubov

57: Steve Heinze

58: Bill Berg

59: Tom Fitzgerald

60: Jose Theodore

 

tbc...

 

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61: Rick Nash

62: Olli Jokinen

63: Mike Ribeiro

64: Darrin Shannon

65: Mark Napier

66: Mario Lemieux

67: Robert Svehla

68: Jaromir Jagr

69: Mel Angelstad

70: Oleg Tverdovsky

71: Evgeni Malkin

72: Mathieu Schneider

73: Michael Ryder

74: Paul Coffey

75: Hal Gill

76: Dustin Penner

77: Ray Bourque

78: Pavol Demitra

79: Alexei Yashin

80: Nik Antropov

 

tbc...  :smileyandcomputer:

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81: Miroslav Satan

82: Martin Straka

83: Ales Hemsky

84: Guillaume Latendresse

85: Petr Klima

86: Jonathan Ferland

87: Sidney Crosby

88: Eric Lindros

89: Alex Mogilny

90: Joe Juneau

91: Sergei Fedorov

92: Rick Tocchet

93: Doug Gilmour

94: Ryan Smyth

95: Danny Markov

96: Tomas Holmstrom

97: Jeremy Roenick

98: Brian Lawton

99: Wayne Gretzky

 

:)

 

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