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Failed Physical a Cap Loopul?

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Some controversial stuff out of Leafs camp.  Joffrey Lupul apparently failed his physical by the Maple Leaf's team doctors and has gone to social media to whine about his case.  

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Are they Cheating?  It is convenient to stash both Robidas and Lupul on the LTIR to free up a roster space.  I think it is rather obvious the Leafs have no intention of either player playing again.  

 

However,  it appears that Lupol wants to play this season.

Comments from teammate Kadri suggest he was ready for camp.  

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It also seems that Lupul has been told to keep quiet.  

"I pledge to work hard with a view to return to playing this season," he wrote. "Hockey is the only life I have known. This is an extremely emotional time for me. Accordingly, I will not be making any further comment at this time."

 

"He worked very hard at it this summer," Leafs general manager Lou Lamoriello said. "He's going to continue to work at it, wants to play. We'll just have to wait and see."

 

If Lupul is certain he would have passed the physical he can submit a grievance to the NHLPA and he may still file.

NHL CBA section 50 "If the League wishes to challenge the determination of a Club physician that a Player is unfit to play, the league and NHLPA shall promptly and jointly select a neutral physician, who shall review the Club physician's determination." 

 

 

I find it very interesting in this case and likely others as the NHL moves to a younger and younger league, what actually constitutes being "healthy" enough to play?  Should there be a team of NHL physicians in place to determine if a team is stashing a player on LTIR for Cap circumvention?

 

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, hf101 said:

I find it very interesting in this case and likely others as the NHL moves to a younger and younger league, what actually constitutes being "healthy" enough to play?  Should there be a team of NHL physicians in place to determine if a team is stashing a player on LTIR for Cap circumvention?

 

Cool thread title! ;)

 

Lupul is one of those guys that is always injured. He produced as much last season by not playing as he did in any of his previous years with the Leafs. I never noticed that he was gone. Quite frankly, I forgot he was ever a Leafs player. But was he ever really a Leafs player? ;)

 

 

Teams need to be able to ditch these stupid contracts. If a player gets a career ending injury, their contract should be null and void. Let players buy injury insurance to cover these types of situations but leave the team out of it.  My two cents. Teams should be able to cut any player that can't dress for at least 41 games in a season due to injury problems. ie: Tear up their contract.  Teams aren't getting fair value for their money when they're paying players not to play. 

 

It's easy to say: "Oh but players should have that guarantee..."  but no, it doesn't work that way in reality. If you aren't performing, you aren't getting paid. If a band cancels a live event, they don't get paid. Teams need to have a guarantee that they don't have to cover dead-weight players that aren't able to play. 

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After watching last night's game I think he would be an improvement...  :hocky:

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On 9/18/2017 at 7:43 PM, WordsOfWisdom said:

 

Cool thread title! ;)

 

Lupul is one of those guys that is always injured. He produced as much last season by not playing as he did in any of his previous years with the Leafs. I never noticed that he was gone. Quite frankly, I forgot he was ever a Leafs player. But was he ever really a Leafs player? ;)

 

 

Teams need to be able to ditch these stupid contracts. If a player gets a career ending injury, their contract should be null and void. Let players buy injury insurance to cover these types of situations but leave the team out of it.  My two cents. Teams should be able to cut any player that can't dress for at least 41 games in a season due to injury problems. ie: Tear up their contract.  Teams aren't getting fair value for their money when they're paying players not to play. 

 

It's easy to say: "Oh but players should have that guarantee..."  but no, it doesn't work that way in reality. If you aren't performing, you aren't getting paid. If a band cancels a live event, they don't get paid. Teams need to have a guarantee that they don't have to cover dead-weight players that aren't able to play. 

 

 

Well Lupul apologized and the next day the NHL has apparently decided to step in, and Lupul will undergo an independent evaluation to determine whether he is physically able to compete.   Stay tuned.  lol.

 

I'm not in favor of ditching the bad contracts that GM's make so they can make more bad contracts.  But I do think there needs to be an option to remove contracts for players who are LTIR'd for the remainder of their NHL career.  Meaning that once a player's contract is submitted to team's insurance fund vs a team's cap structure that player's career in the NHL is over.  

 

Essentially LTIR covers players that are not able to play.

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37 minutes ago, hf101 said:

Well Lupul apologized and the next day the NHL has apparently decided to step in, and Lupul will undergo an independent evaluation to determine whether he is physically able to compete.   Stay tuned.  lol.

 

Maybe he'll get injured during the evaluation lol.  :haha:

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      Well Lupul apologized and the next day the NHL has apparently decided to step in, and Lupul will undergo an independent evaluation to determine whether he is physically able to compete.   Stay tuned.  lol.   I'm not in favor of ditching the bad contracts that GM's make so they can make more bad contracts.  But I do think there needs to be an option to remove contracts for players who are LTIR'd for the remainder of their NHL career.  Meaning that once a player's contract is submitted to team's insurance fund vs a team's cap structure that player's career in the NHL is over.     Essentially LTIR covers players that are not able to play.

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