Pucked in the head Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 But that's a good one!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Hey, if the Rangers want to sell the farm, kick the tires on what they want for Lundqvist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Why the hell not? Don't think they'll give him up too cheap though and he is at the end of his career so how much would you give up to get him and how much game do you think he has left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 8 hours ago, Pucked in the head said: I personally wouldn't want raanta , is he better than our alternatives? Yes. He is. But I'm still not doing it. The cavalry is coming, we just need a bridge until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 9 hours ago, Pucked in the head said: It seems they give up on them, trade them,then they thrive (Bobrovski) ring any bells Really? Name another goalie that the Flyers had and gave up on where he went on to thrive somewhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Dear God, now we're talking Lundqvist. Please tell me I missed the sarcasm. People have lost their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just now, ruxpin said: Dear God, now we're talking Lundqvist. Please tell me I missed the sarcasm. Welcome to the Flyers Forum!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said: Welcome to the Flyers Forum!! I feel like I'm on Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Look, we have Hart and Sandstrom coming. We kept Neuvirth and brought in Elliott to be a bridge until then, probably with the thought that Stolarz could play insurance when Neurvirth lost two weeks for cutting himself shaving or changing the channel on the remote. The problem is Stolarz injury because Lyon doesn't fill that role. And I'm sure the front office is concerned about Neuvy shaving while watching TV. But getting Lehner is foolish. I didn't like him in Ottawa, and I like him less in Buffalo. I realize he has a clown car playing in front of him in Buffalo, but I don't trust him behind the 1976 Canadiens. And Lundqvist? Are people serioius? That's going to be a King's ransom (initially an unintended pun, but now I kind of like it). What assets do you want to give up for a 35 year old fading goalie? Because the Rangers are going to want their trade partner to back up the truck. You want to give up a first round pick? A Sanheim? Myers? Konecny? What? No way I trade the beer guy for him. Stick with the program. Ride it out. If you really need an insurance policy for the guy bleeding on his TV remote, contact Chicago when Crawford comes back and see what it would take to get Glass. Or Sateri from Florida. Something along those lines. If Elliott goes down for an extended people, now you're shooting higher, but not until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 19 minutes ago, ruxpin said: Look, we have Hart and Sandstrom coming. We kept Neuvirth and brought in Elliott to be a bridge until then, probably with the thought that Stolarz could play insurance when Neurvirth lost two weeks for cutting himself shaving or changing the channel on the remote. The problem is Stolarz injury because Lyon doesn't fill that role. And I'm sure the front office is concerned about Neuvy shaving while watching TV. But getting Lehner is foolish. I didn't like him in Ottawa, and I like him less in Buffalo. I realize he has a clown car playing in front of him in Buffalo, but I don't trust him behind the 1976 Canadiens. And Lundqvist? Are people serioius? That's going to be a King's ransom (initially an unintended pun, but now I kind of like it). What assets do you want to give up for a 35 year old fading goalie? Because the Rangers are going to want their trade partner to back up the truck. You want to give up a first round pick? A Sanheim? Myers? Konecny? What? No way I trade the beer guy for him. Stick with the program. Ride it out. If you really need an insurance policy for the guy bleeding on his TV remote, contact Chicago when Crawford comes back and see what it would take to get Glass. Or Sateri from Florida. Something along those lines. If Elliott goes down for an extended people, now you're shooting higher, but not until then. I only liked your post cause I couldn't love it. The Flyers are a borderline playoff team. Lehner or Lundquist are going to make us what? A borderline playoff team? Is that worth giving up assets for? Trading for the sake of trading is just plain stupid. people have to forget the old way of "MUST MAKE DEADLINE DEALS"...it doesn't work about 98% of the time. Heck I'll still sell at the deadline if there's suckers who want to overpay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Besides...how many games have Lehner or Lundquist won with zero playing time? Cause Neuvrith just won last night with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Name a goalie the flyers developed, in our system that we stuck with and played (well) that we kept and thrived for US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: The Flyers are a borderline playoff team. Lehner or Lundquist are going to make us what? A borderline playoff team? Is that worth giving up assets for? Trading for the sake of trading is just plain stupid. people have to forget the old way of "MUST MAKE DEADLINE DEALS"...it doesn't work about 98% of the time. Heck I'll still sell at the deadline if there's suckers who want to overpay. Currently the team is in 6th place in the conference so in the team's vision they are much more than just "borderline". If Elliot is injured where he really can't play significant time for the rest of the season and playoffs this team then is completely toast. How can Hextall look his team in the eye and say ... "Sorry guys we've got too much in the cupboard for the team that will play in a few years to make a deal to keep you all in playoff contention this year"? How can Hextall look at his season ticket holders and say... " We had a good run this year, we'll be there again in a few years"? Hextall has to do his job to make the best deal possible to keep this team in the hunt for the playoffs keeping in mind he needs to keep the cupboard full. We have a ton of talent in the system, probably too much as they all won't make this roster in the future. If Elliot is out for any significant amount of time and can't really play as he has all season then yes this team needs a 3rd goalie NHL goalie. Which means Hextall will need to give up likely a prospect and a 2nd round pick. I think we have enough talent in our cupboard to make that type of trade for a rental goalie. If the deal out there is better for a non-rental than he should make that deal, both Elliot and Neuvirth are tradeable in the off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Can't do it? Can you and if you prove me wrong then great but I can't remember any! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 I just hope hexy don't give away the wrong prospect and it comes back and bites us ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Will stolarz be back next season? Will the flyers stick with him or ship him off (because he got hurt and don't trust in him any more) (Vinny prospal, JUSTIN WILLIAMS,) and he goes on and thrives ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Just out of curiosity, why can’t we bring up Tokarski (I know Lyon has been recalled) and trade Neuvirth by the time Elliott comes back. Keep Tokarski and Elliott for the rest of the year. Not great, but won’t cost anything - in fact, we’ll gain an asset in the trade. I love Neuvirth’s skill, but he’s unreliable. Hextall has said as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, hf101 said: Currently the team is in 6th place in the conference so in the team's vision they are much more than just "borderline". If Elliot is injured where he really can't play significant time for the rest of the season and playoffs this team then is completely toast. How can Hextall look his team in the eye and say ... "Sorry guys we've got too much in the cupboard for the team that will play in a few years to make a deal to keep you all in playoff contention this year"? How can Hextall look at his season ticket holders and say... " We had a good run this year, we'll be there again in a few years"? Hextall has to do his job to make the best deal possible to keep this team in the hunt for the playoffs keeping in mind he needs to keep the cupboard full. We have a ton of talent in the system, probably too much as they all won't make this roster in the future. If Elliot is out for any significant amount of time and can't really play as he has all season then yes this team needs a 3rd goalie NHL goalie. Which means Hextall will need to give up likely a prospect and a 2nd round pick. I think we have enough talent in our cupboard to make that type of trade for a rental goalie. If the deal out there is better for a non-rental than he should make that deal, both Elliot and Neuvirth are tradeable in the off-season. I don't. If I'm Hextall, I bring up Lyons and run with Neuvirth for 20 or 25 minutes until he's hurt. Then I'm on the phone with Chicago or Florida or Vegas, but I'm not giving up more than a 2nd and I'm not giving up a prospect unless his name's Manning (who is no longer a prospect). We're looking at much better things than a doomed run for a round in the playoffs--season ticket holder myopia be damned. I'm not derailing that for a rent-a-bozo from Buffalo or a geriatric from NYC. Or any of the other silliness suggested on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Why else did we get tokarski ? To ride the bench with the phantoms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 minute ago, brelic said: Just out of curiosity, why can’t we bring up Tokarski (I know Lyon has been recalled) and trade Neuvirth by the time Elliott comes back. Keep Tokarski and Elliott for the rest of the year. Not great, but won’t cost anything - in fact, we’ll gain an asset in the trade. I love Neuvirth’s skill, but he’s unreliable. Hextall has said as much. I'm game. The only problem is that Tokarski sucks. Simply horrible. But, it works if tossing away a playoff round this year is okay. It is for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 At least give him a shot he might surprise everyone! You just never know unless you try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Maybe our awesome goalie coaches fixed him and now he's good to go lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pucked in the head said: Why else did we get tokarski ? To ride the bench with the phantoms? Well, he came free when they bought the toaster oven at Costco. It was technically a separate deal, but we traded Leland Irving for him. I won't blame you if you ask, "who the hell is Leland Irving?" Honestly, the toaster oven thing was a better story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 Then give him a shot and if he still sucks then it doesn't cost us anything to find out or at least try to showcase him and get something for him if he doesn't fit with this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 And yes by the way who the hell was Leland Irving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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