vis Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 hours ago, brelic said: What about you? Would you trade Sanheim given Myers' and Morin's injury history? No, unless the return is ridiculous. Certainly not for anyone mentioned in this thread. A lot of the flyers’ future success is predicated upon the defensive unit being a strength. If all of a sudden, three of your prospects no longer figure to contribute in the future (because you traded one and the other two have injury issues or haven’t developed as you would like), then you just set yourself back quite a bit. As mentioned, I think he is definitely an NHL player. I don’t know if he’s a top pairing guy, but I think he will be more than just a PP specialist. in short, I think his ceiling probably high and his floor not so bad. Why trade him especially if there are concerns about Myers or Morin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 58 minutes ago, murraycraven said: but that is a projection in and of itself... You cant discount Sanheim as being a projection and then say a "future top line forward"... if you are trading for another young player that is just as much of a risk. You might project that player to be a top line bu no guarantee. Yes, that’s true. I didn’t mean trading Sanheim for a prospect. Even though Reinhart has question marks, and I don’t think I’d trade Sanheim for him, he’s proven a lot more than Sanheim at the NHL level. That’s the kind of player I mean. Someone who has a few proven years in the NHL. Still a risk, but less so. Even so, would you consider trading Sanheim for, say, Mittelstadt? I doubt Buffalo would ever trade him, but it’s the kind of trade that deals from a position of strength to bolster an area of weakness - top line forwards. But, yes, he’s just a prospect too. The point I was trying to make is that we have developed two top pairing defense men who are playing in the NHL right now, so I’d consider moving an unknown Sanheim for a young top line forward. It would have to be the right deal. But right now, I’d wait. There’s no rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Monet Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I will lose my sht if any of this goes down. We are in year 3 of a 5 year rebuild. Now is not the time to change course. Buffalo is the last place I want players coming from. Hextall has demonstrated that he will stay the course, and I expect nothing else. Minor move for a stop gap goalie ....sure but that is it. Only a move that blows doors off is acceptable. I’ve waited 3 years for 2020...hexy better not deviate now. i might be biased from watching him in juniors BUT Sanheim is not in any discussions period. That type of offensive, puck moving game is gold and he oozes it. I’ve seen him unleashed and destroy the winterhawks too many times. I would love the playoffs now but want no part of anything that affects the long term plan. I’ve waited too long for this type of rebuild to not see it come to FULL fruition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, brelic said: That's a projection That is all we can do with a 21 year old Dman who is just his 2nd season of his entry level contract. He has played all of 89 AHL games. 1 hour ago, brelic said: No one can touch his offensive acumen Right now. Sanheim can match his offense and then some i think once he has reached Ghost age of 24 soon to be 25. 1 hour ago, brelic said: just a testament to how hard Ghost has worked at becoming a better defenseman in the NHL. Exactly because he was given a chance. Good thing they didn't trade him when he struggled....right. 1 hour ago, brelic said: If there is somehow an opportunity to find a future top line forward - a game-changer - and that involves trading Sanheim, I think Hextall would consider it. Fine consider it all he wants but i wouldn't do it. It is easier to find forwards than Dmen with Travis's upside. D men just take a little longer to develop. The Flyers have a lot of talent coming you'll just have to remain patient and let them arrive. You plant the seed you can't rush it to sprout. 1 hour ago, brelic said: Seems like we'll just agree to disagree Completely. If this team was all around closer and just a forward away i may be more incline to make a move but they are not the pieces are coming together it just can't be rushed. The rest of the blueline will be arriving and then the goalies will be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, brelic said: Even so, would you consider trading Sanheim for, say, Mittelstadt? No what has he proven??? He is just a freshman in college and he can even Jimmy Vesey when the time comes he doesn't have to sign...NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 21 minutes ago, Claude Monet said: I will lose my sht if any of this goes down. You are not alone. 22 minutes ago, Claude Monet said: Minor move for a stop gap goalie ....sure but that is it. Exactly. This isn't a deep playoff group....they will be lucky to make it TO the playoffs. No way i'm gambling this year. The window is not open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Chicago put Glass on waivers , would you give him a shot or no, I don't know much about him but no cost pick up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pucked in the head said: Chicago put Glass on waivers , would you give him a shot or no, I don't know much about him but no cost pick up Yes for free hell yeah...why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I see Panthers have activated Luongo off IR so Sateri should be waiver too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam1986 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Yes we have contract problem. G and Jake have bad ones can we dump one? Trade Simmons cause with you can't trade One above.Ivan has 8 or 9 mil deal coming. Also a few also need contracts. Stay on course young with a sprinkle of vets. No Kane. Back up goalie yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Which one of the two would you rather pick up? Glass or Sateri? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pucked in the head Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Either one have injuries in their background? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 1:03 PM, OccamsRazor said: Dear God if i had to chose between those two i take Reinhart for sure. No way i want any of ROR's 7.5 mill price tag for the next 5 years for just a 40-50 point forward. HELL NO! Unless Mcdud and Lehtera is going back the other way! O'Reilly isn't a fit for the Flyers at all, but he is clearly a 50-60 point player and a demon at the dot. He hasn't been below 55 points for four years and is on pace for 56 this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, radoran said: He hasn't been below 55 points for four years and is on pace for 56 this season. Is that the going price in today's market?? 7.5 mill? Should have just kept Schenn then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just say no to trading Sanheim. I agree with @OccamsRazor that he's going to have the best career out of everyone not named Provorov. Although I think he anchors his own pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineFlyFan Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 @brelic So totally off topic....but All this time I've been lurking here and reading your comments I've thought your "logo" or "Avatar" (or whatever the kids call the little pictures we choose to go next to our online ramblings)......Said OBAMA Tree.....LOL!! I now realize it is DRAMA tree....For the longest time I could not get what the HELL Obama tree meant!! Carry on..... (And KEEP THE YOUTH!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, MaineFlyFan said: @brelic So totally off topic....but All this time I've been lurking here and reading your comments I've thought your "logo" or "Avatar" (or whatever the kids call the little pictures we choose to go next to our online ramblings)......Said OBAMA Tree.....LOL!! I now realize it is DRAMA tree....For the longest time I could not get what the HELL Obama tree meant!! Carry on..... (And KEEP THE YOUTH!) Haha, you know, I guess it does kinda look like OBAMA! Yes, it's The Drama Tree - the band name under which I record and release music. It's just my cousin and I, and our favourite band and biggest influence is Dream Theater (even though we sound NOTHING like them haha!). So, I played around with a few ideas, and came up with the anagram The Drama Tree so we could quietly honour our idols in a way that was important to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineFlyFan Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, brelic said: Haha, you know, I guess it does kinda look like OBAMA! Yes, it's The Drama Tree - the band name under which I record and release music. It's just my cousin and I, and our favourite band and biggest influence is Dream Theater (even though we sound NOTHING like them haha!). So, I played around with a few ideas, and came up with the anagram The Drama Tree so we could quietly honour our idols in a way that was important to us. HaHa! That's great man! I'm a musician myself (in a former life before kids and work took over), but used to gig around up here in Portland, Maine (just bar ****, mostly covers and a few originals sprinkled in)....SO much fun. I miss it terribly. Barely get to pick up my ax anymore. I always say playing music (or an instrument) is like sex....you can do it alone, but it's SO MUCH BETTER with someone else! Anyway, don't want to derail the thread but I just died laughing this morning when I finally realized my mistake......too funny. Nice band name and best of luck with your music. I'll go find you online and have a listen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineFlyFan Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 HaHa...just noticed where you are from....Not too many people I have to say DOWN HERE in Maine too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 17 hours ago, Jam1986 said: Ivan has 8 or 9 mil deal coming. I am a Prov fanboy as much as anyone... his next deal wont be for 8 or 9M. He will be signed to a bridge deal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekkes85 Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, murraycraven said: I am a Prov fanboy as much as anyone... his next deal wont be for 8 or 9M. He will be signed to a bridge deal.... Agreed, $5-6 mil for 2-3 years. If they can lock him up long term I'd be happy... Long term @ 6.5-7 range and I'd be happy too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, sekkes85 said: Agreed, $5-6 mil for 2-3 years. If they can lock him up long term I'd be happy... Long term @ 6.5-7 range and I'd be happy too lol A good comparable is Seth Jones, who signed a 6 year contract @ $5.4M per season in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 17 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: Is that the going price in today's market?? 7.5 mill? Should have just kept Schenn then. Well, there are 13 players in the league who make as much or more than OReilly that have more points than him this season. And 13 who don't. We report, you decide. I think most players are overpaid... My point was that your characterization of him as a 40-50 player was fundamentally incorrect. Because it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmatus Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 hours ago, brelic said: So, I played around with a few ideas, and came up with the anagram The Drama Tree so we could quietly honour our idols in a way that was important to us. Man, how did I miss this tidbit of info? Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, elmatus said: Man, how did I miss this tidbit of info? Heh. Well, it *is* a fair bit nerdy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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