CreaseAndAssist Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Suter's Rehab Update from the Athletic I included some quoted material that jumped out to me in the article in case you are not a subscriber. IMO, it says a lot about Suter's relative arrogance / confidence in that he's right and everyone else be damned. Enjoy... Quote They end with Suter lying on a training table as his ankle is worked on. From his back, Suter reminds his physical therapist that he’s already behind his normal offseason skating schedule, and for a second it’s easy to forget that Suter’s injury was so serious that similar ones have ended the careers of professional soccer and basketball players. But, he tells his therapist, he wants to be skating in August so he can be ready for the first day of training camp in September. His therapist bends his ankle another direction and tells Suter to slow down. Remember that rehab can feel frustrating if you look too far ahead without appreciating the week-by-week progresses made, Suter is told. Don’t forget, he’s reminded, that it was only a few weeks ago that he couldn’t walk without a boot. When he arrived, Boyd and foot specialist Fernando Peña were blunt. “They’re like, ‘This is bad,’” Suter said. “They said this could be career-ending.” Born Salty@cjzero Slow mo look at Suter's foot injury, not that Wild fans want to see it again Still, Suter scoffed. “I’m thinking, ‘Come on, guys, it’s my foot, it’s not going to be career-ending,’” Suter said. “‘Fine, you can tell people that if it makes you feel better, but it’s not going to end my career.’ He’s reminded that doctors and officials have told him to keep realistic goals and not worry about the start of training camp, that this was a serious injury he shouldn’t feel a need to rush back from. By his own admission, Suter can be a bit controlling. “If you want things done right, you have to do them yourself,” he often says. “When I hear that, I don’t really hear it,” Suter says. “I want to be ready for camp and I want to have the best year that I’ve ever had. So I basically just ignore it. I’ll be fine. I’m almost there — as soon as I can get rid of that little hitch I’ve got.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllaZilla Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 One thing in that article really stood out to me... I, I, I, I, I, I... The consummate team player... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseAndAssist Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 Sounds like a player who is rushing back...usually doesn't turn out well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck_hawg Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Hahaha! The guy is a total dink! I would like to hear what the Dr's have to say about him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I also saw there were a lot of "I" comments in Graff's interview with Sutter however, the article was about Suter and his progress. There were comments there that are a concern that Suter is rushing back and could likely face some setbacks. I also saw a lot of the Peter Forsberg mentality that he is committed to pushing past the pain of rehab and do whatever it takes to achieve his goals. “How cool would that be to come back from this injury after people said I couldn’t and then to go on a run and win a Stanley Cup?” Suter says. “That would be the ultimate. Sometimes you’ve got to hit the bottom before you get up there, and maybe for me, this is it.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandron Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Ryan should make a second opinion at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN. They have very professional specialists. Rehab, rehab and again rehab there too. I believe he is a brave warrior capable to restore his professional skills and strengthen his mentality also. Agreed, the rush is not a helper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllaZilla Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 7 hours ago, hf101 said: I also saw there were a lot of "I" comments in Graff's interview with Sutter however, the article was about Suter and his progress. There were comments there that are a concern that Suter is rushing back and could likely face some setbacks. I also saw a lot of the Peter Forsberg mentality that he is committed to pushing past the pain of rehab and do whatever it takes to achieve his goals. “How cool would that be to come back from this injury after people said I couldn’t and then to go on a run and win a Stanley Cup?” Suter says. “That would be the ultimate. Sometimes you’ve got to hit the bottom before you get up there, and maybe for me, this is it.” He's as delusional as Leipold is if he thinks the current team is anywhere near a Cup contender... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseAndAssist Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 3 hours ago, IllaZilla said: He's as delusional as Leipold is if he thinks the current team is anywhere near a Cup contender... Who do you think sold Leipold on that idea? Could it be...Mr. Kwik Trip himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetshot Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Under the definition for "dumb jock" in the dictionary, you'll find a picture of Suter along with an audio clip of some of his quotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyShelf Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 On 7/12/2018 at 5:07 PM, puck_hawg said: Hahaha! The guy is a total dink! I would like to hear what the Dr's have to say about him. A setback for Suter is in the cards. He may join 11 in not being counted on healthy for large parts of this year. May not be the worst thing for the team. The lack of playing availability may serve to deplete an enormous ego. Just a self-centered jackass with his comments - no cup in his future. How does it help the Wild to have him on the ice for 32 minutes with a hitch and no strength? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseAndAssist Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, EmptyShelf said: A setback for Suter is in the cards. He may join 11 in not being counted on healthy for large parts of this year. May not be the worst thing for the team. The lack of playing availability may serve to deplete an enormous ego. Just a self-centered jackass with his comments - no cup in his future. How does it help the Wild to have him on the ice for 32 minutes with a hitch and no strength? I would agree. I wasn't bothered in the slightest by Suter's absence in the playoffs. It didn't matter anyways IMO. We were not going to win that series against the Jets with him or without him. If Suter's foolishness with his rehab ends up causing a setback I won't be surprised nor will I be all that disappointed. Edited July 16, 2018 by CreaseAndAssist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Check Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 On 7/12/2018 at 5:07 PM, puck_hawg said: Hahaha! The guy is a total dink! I would like to hear what the Dr's have to say about him. While frustrated with Suter's off ice antics and power trip personna, I have to disagree with the point that Suter wasn't missed in the playoffs. Maybe not on the PP, but after the Jets series, I came to the conclusion that Brodin does not have top D pairing ability. I would argue Suter does....although IMO, not top 10 in the NHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseAndAssist Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 10 hours ago, 4Check said: While frustrated with Suter's off ice antics and power trip personna, I have to disagree with the point that Suter wasn't missed in the playoffs. Maybe not on the PP, but after the Jets series, I came to the conclusion that Brodin does not have top D pairing ability. I would argue Suter does....although IMO, not top 10 in the NHL Yet even if Suter was there...were we going to win with a team that couldn't score? Nope...or are you going to tell me Suter's scoring will carry the team past Winnipeg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razblo Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 If Suter (or Parise) ever goes on the forever LTIR, ala Pronger or Hossa, we can just trade him to Phoenix with a couple of bum prospects for a bag potatoes and a slightly worse draft pick. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Check Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, CreaseAndAssist said: Yet even if Suter was there...were we going to win with a team that couldn't score? Nope...or are you going to tell me Suter's scoring will carry the team past Winnipeg? No, you're right, Suter couldn't make up for the no show Wild forwards. But clearly, while Seeler was alright, the rest of the left side D (Brodin and Soucy) struggled (to put it mildly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllaZilla Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I think a lot of these observations we are making here just goes to show that the Wild aren't built for the Playoffs. Every team knows you just have to be a little physical with them and they turtle. Also, is it me, or are the Wild constantly running into the "hot goaltender" more than any other team in the Playoffs? Or is it that their anemic offense makes any goaltender they run into "the hot goaltender"? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandron Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, IllaZilla said: I think a lot of these observations we are making here just goes to show that the Wild aren't built for the Playoffs. Every team knows you just have to be a little physical with them and they turtle. Also, is it me, or are the Wild constantly running into the "hot goaltender" more than any other team in the Playoffs? Or is it that their anemic offense makes any goaltender they run into "the hot goaltender"? Not yet. I think the second one is an answer. Plus we are missing a really "hot our own goaltender" for years/decades too. Probably, once we had a duo hot goaltenders one playoffs season to reach us to the Western Conference finals. Roloson played 11 games and Fernandez 9 games during that playoffs success then, practically evenly distributed those games . Here is an interesting link from Wikipedia about our Wild team of 2002-2003 season. Please, check to the right side of the page how many rotating captains we had during that season. One Russian player -Sergei Zholtok was also a captain for a month too, but mainly Brad Bombardir was a captain for 5 months (Oct-Nov; Feb-Apr.). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002–03_Minnesota_Wild_season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseAndAssist Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 20 hours ago, Razblo said: If Suter (or Parise) ever goes on the forever LTIR, ala Pronger or Hossa, we can just trade him to Phoenix with a couple of bum prospects for a bag potatoes and a slightly worse draft pick. I think you may be onto something with this, the NHL's boneyard franchise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseAndAssist Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 9 hours ago, IllaZilla said: I think a lot of these observations we are making here just goes to show that the Wild aren't built for the Playoffs. Every team knows you just have to be a little physical with them and they turtle. Also, is it me, or are the Wild constantly running into the "hot goaltender" more than any other team in the Playoffs? Or is it that their anemic offense makes any goaltender they run into "the hot goaltender"? Meh, the Wild make opposing goaltenders look great with their willingness to settle for perimeter shots with little or no traffic near the goalie. The Wild are unwilling to pay the physical price to go to the high traffic areas on the ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishthefish101 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Wow. I don't know if he is utterly delusional or if he's THAT dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllaZilla Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 7 hours ago, fishthefish101 said: Wow. I don't know if he is utterly delusional or if he's THAT dumb. Correct on both counts. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynxrattle Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Suter for the Masterton trophy... That is quite questionable. It could be argued that him rushing back before he was fully healed and hogging all the ice time has costed us the playoffs. Just a couple of losses early in the season because of him coming back too early and there we are. Four points back chasing the Avs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseAndAssist Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 Yes when I saw that...I think I almost threw up in my mouth. So resilient just to come back and glide or stand around on the ice. Honestly...just watch him. In many cases in his own end, he just sort of turns and reaches and spins out there. But will anyone in this organization call him out on that lazy play? Nope...because they know all it takes is one phone call from #20 to ownership and you're gone. It kind of reminds me of that old horror movie about the kid with unlimited power; and the family letting the kid do whatever they wish because they just hope to avoid being killed by this kid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynxrattle Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Fargo defending Suter made me think about the difficulty of Suter's situation. I think it's time for his uncle Gary to have a fatherly conversation with him about getting older and the changes that brings along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ0226 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 So where is this determination and willing to fight so hard on the ice?! Why in the world does he care to be out there? He's getting paid no matter what? Is his ego so big and controlling he needs to be out there so he can "coach", "direct" and "GM" the other players and coaches? Only thing he causes on the ice is for his linemate (mainly Spurgeon) to have to do double the work. The effort of standing in one spot and only making a half hearted attempt to stop a play when they come into your bubble is not missed. And if everything that was said did happen the fact he is ignoring professionals in the health field is a huge eye opener. There is a difference between working extremely hard to get back and ignoring medical advice from professionals and doing what you want to do. The fact he can't seem to register his injury has ended careers points to a blind and possibly dumb human being. I know this is bad and I hate thinking it but part of me wants him to get hurt enough to end his career but not affect his life outside of hockey if he continues to ignore and not acknowledge what he needs to do to ensure a safe comeback that won't hurt him or the team. I hate saying that as I have only wanted 3 players to get hurt, Cooke, Bertuzzi and Wilson. Those players are dirty as hell and shouldn't be allowed on the ice. I hated having Cooke on the Wild. I felt dirty cheering for the Wild and he went out and showed why I hate him throws dirty hits and knee on knee shots and even gets a 7 game suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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