WordsOfWisdom Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 14 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: I can't see that happening. 1. What team has two #1 Dmen that can move one of them? None. 2. So what team would move their #1 for a 2nd line center and then create a huge hole on their top pair? A GM wanting a new job. 1. A team that is on the downward spiral and in need of a rebuild, who is looking to unload big contract veteran players who won't be around by the time the team is ready to contend again. The team in question will be a team with a 30-something year old #1 defenceman surrounded by crap players who isn't going anywhere anytime soon. A young player like Nylander would fit perfectly into their rebuild. 2. You're also purchasing potential when you get Nylander. It's not just who he is, it's who he could become. He's a potential #1 center or #1 winger. I don't think he has plateaued. He has major upside still. Toronto might be giving up on a 40-50 goal scorer. You never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordsOfWisdom Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 13 hours ago, JR Ewing said: I say it at the best of times, but in these instances believe it to be even more true: if a trade happens, fans had best be prepared to be underwhelmed by the return. It's also important to note that you can trade up to a better player if you're willing to sacrifice on AGE. A #1 defenceman for Nylander might not be a fair trade if they're both 25. But a #1 defenceman who is 30, 31, 32 let's say IS a fair trade for a young player with huge potential like Nylander. For teams that get Nylander: You're getting a guy who might score 40+ goals and be a line 1 guy. He's just entering his prime. If he stays where he is, then he's a good complementary piece (line 2 guy) and he's young, so you have him for a long time. Toronto should be looking to win now. That means if you can get a #1 defenceman who has won a Stanley Cup or a Norris trophy (or both), you grab that guy regardless of whether he's pushing 30 or entering his 30's. The window to win is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 33 minutes ago, WordsOfWisdom said: The team in question will be a team with a 30-something year old #1 defenceman surrounded by crap players who isn't going anywhere anytime soon. A young player like Nylander would fit perfectly into their rebuild. Ok. So what team fits the description? I don't see one. The only one I can see that comes close to that is the Canes. With Hamilton and Faulk whom I really can't categorize either as #1s really but it is the best I can do. Canes I think could use Nylander whom I don't think will ever be a #1 center in the NHL but can be a #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 D- day.... December 1. Leafs and Flyers are apparently still talking on a trade, rumor is Ghost for Nylander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 minute ago, hf101 said: D- day.... December 1. Leafs and Flyers are apparently still talking on a trade, rumor is Ghost for Nylander. I hope not .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, hf101 said: D- day.... December 1. Leafs and Flyers are apparently still talking on a trade, rumor is Ghost for Nylander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hf101 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, ruxpin said: that's how I feel about the Hextall firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, hf101 said: that's how I feel about the Hextall firing. My preference would have been for Hextall to stay but to adapt to the realities around him. I'm okay if they bring in a Pat Gillick to his Ed Wade. But it seems they're hell bent on bringing in Red Hot Ryder to his Gilligan's Island (the three-season three-hour tour but never get to where they want to go). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yave1964 Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 three and a half hours to go on Nylander. Unbelievable it has stretched out for this long. I know Babs wants him back, Matthews loves playing with him on his line and they are a better team with him on it but c'mon, enough is enough. If he doesn't sign and the Leafs lose in the first round I cannot think of a way that the city forgives him and he ever plays another game with the Leafs again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, yave1964 said: three and a half hours to go on Nylander. Unbelievable it has stretched out for this long. I know Babs wants him back, Matthews loves playing with him on his line and they are a better team with him on it but c'mon, enough is enough. If he doesn't sign and the Leafs lose in the first round I cannot think of a way that the city forgives him and he ever plays another game with the Leafs again. ………………… I will laugh my blonde head off and PURPOSELY tune into Hockey Central to watch the bobbleheads grumble about what could have been...………….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Just got home from doing Christmas shopping... he is still not signed yet.... good grief. Let the rioting in Toronto begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I will say this...with the horror of having Holmgren temporarily running the show in Philly I tip my hat to Toronto management for NOT overpaying Nylander (so far) when they know they have more important players coming up for new contracts as early as next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey-78 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, flyercanuck said: I will say this...with the horror of having Holmgren temporarily running the show in Philly I tip my hat to Toronto management for NOT overpaying Nylander (so far) when they know they have more important players coming up for new contracts as early as next season. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 2 hours ago, TropicalFruitGirl26 said: If he doesn't sign and the Leafs lose in the first round It will be like he is still there.... HAHAHAHA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: It will be like he is still there.... HAHAHAHA!!! Good point!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I want Nylander to sign with the Leafs just to see them struggle with cap issues the next few years, but I also don’t want Nylander to sign just to see Leaf fans have a mental break down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, pilldoc said: I want Nylander to sign with the Leafs just to see them struggle with cap issues the next few years, but I also don’t want Nylander to sign just to see Leaf fans have a mental break down. Nylander. 6 years. Money not announced yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 $6.9M per, 6 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, ruxpin said: $6.9M per, 6 years Just read that...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, pilldoc said: Just read that...... That makes Brayden Schenn's deal look that much better. Good job Hexy. Oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Ewing Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Way to go, Dubas. You could have had Milan Lucic for $900,000 less per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPuk Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Did you notice there was no one to greet him at the airport? For shame! Just some go-fer underling assistant to the assistant. I hear that due to the extremely high salary Nylander is getting, that Uber driver was all they could afford. They had to strap Willy's luggage to the roof of the Citroen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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