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SEASON SALARY CAP HIT BUYOUT SAVINGS BUYOUT CAP HIT 2012-13 $6,500,000 $5,666,667 $1,708,333 $4,791,667 $875,000 2013-14 $8,000,000 $5,666,667 $1,708,333 $6,291,667 -$625,000 2014-15 $6,000,000 $5,666,667 $1,708,333 $4,291,667 $1,375,000 2015-16 $6,000,000 $5,666,667 $1,708,333 $4,291,667 $1,375,000 2016-17 $5,500,000 $5,666,667 $1,708,333 $3,791,667 $1,875,000 2017-18 $5,500,000 $5,666,667 $1,708,333 $3,791,667 $1,875,000 2018-19 $2,250,000 $5,666,667 $1,708,333 $541,667 $5,125,000 2019-20 $1,250,000 $5,666,667 $1,708,333 -$458,333 $6,125,000 2020-21 $0 $0 $1,708,333 -$1,708,333 $1,708,333 2021-22 $0 $0 $1,708,333 -$1,708,333 $1,708,333 2022-23 $0 $0 $1,708,333 -$1,708,333 $1,708,333 2023-24 $0 $0 $1,708,333 -$1,708,333 $1,708,333 2024-25 $0 $0 $1,708,333 -$1,708,333 $1,708,333 2025-26 $0 $0 $1,708,333 -$1,708,333 $1,708,333 2026-27 $0 $0 $1,708,333 -$1,708,333 $1,708,333 2027-28 $0 $0 $1,708,333 -$1,708,333 $1,708,333

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Ilya Bryzgalov buyout from CapGeek.com

  • 2012-13: $875,000
  • 2013-14: -$625,000
  • 2014-15: $1,375,000
  • 2015-16: $1,375,000
  • 2016-17: $1,875,000
  • 2017-18: $1,875,000
  • 2018-19: $5,125,000
  • 2019-20: $6,125,000
  • 2020-21: $1,708,333
  • 2021-22: $1,708,333
  • 2022-23: $1,708,333
  • 2023-24: $1,708,333
  • 2024-25: $1,708,333
  • 2025-26: $1,708,333
  • 2026-27: $1,708,333
  • 2027-28: $1,708,333

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@orange_crush

It is ugly but too early for a couple of reasons. First of all, we're only 40 games in. While I'm skeptical, he still has time to get it together. Secondly, with the CBA set to expire, I'm sure anyone in the organization who has any thoughts of buying him out will want to wait and see what kind of one time house cleaning might be available.

Oh, and then there's the minor matter of whose idea this was in the first place: Snider's. Might get a little uncomfortable at this point for Homer to suggest that Snider had F**ked up and that the team needed to cut its loses and move on. This situation needs to marinate for a while longer.

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My frustration gets the best of me and I say I want them to start Bob or play the hot goalie.

But then I think of the big picture. This team isn't built to go past the second round (especially with Pronger out) unless there is some really favorable match-ups similar to 2010.

Let Bryz have the rest of the year and the playoffs to work through whatever he has going on. A buyout mid-season doesn't really gain them anything.

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@orange_crush

It is ugly but too early for a couple of reasons. First of all, we're only 40 games in. While I'm skeptical, he still has time to get it together. Secondly, with the CBA set to expire, I'm sure anyone in the organization who has any thoughts of buying him out will want to wait and see what kind of one time house cleaning might be available.

Oh, and then there's the minor matter of whose idea this was in the first place: Snider's. Might get a little uncomfortable at this point for Homer to suggest that Snider had F**ked up and that the team needed to cut its loses and move on. This situation needs to marinate for a while longer.

I disagree, Teabagger bad performance is not due to the Flyers, it's lack of talent..anyone who has watched him for half a season can tell this guy is not the real deal and will not get any better unless the Flyers give up 0 shots a game..

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My frustration gets the best of me and I say I want them to start Bob or play the hot goalie.

But then I think of the big picture. This team isn't built to go past the second round (especially with Pronger out) unless there is some really favorable match-ups similar to 2010.

Let Bryz have the rest of the year and the playoffs to work through whatever he has going on. A buyout mid-season doesn't really gain them anything.

So if Breezy struggles for the rest of the year, do you buy him out at the end of this year?

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@s3x

I am not in the buyout camp at this point, but if it were happen it woudld be after this season...the CBA is up after this year, and the new one needs to be in place prior to next season starting. Any buyouts without penalties/cap implications-if allowed-would logically happen after the new CBA is agreed to, but before the next season starts.

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I am going to go out on a limb here and say Bryzgalov out lasts his coach due to his contract. With that said, the space case actually may be half way decent in a tighter defensive system.

However, if we can trade him, I am all for it. If he is bought out, I won't lose a second of sleep.

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So if Breezy struggles for the rest of the year, do you buy him out at the end of this year?

Let's see how they finish up the year. The kids are going to learn a lot.

But I guess right now I would say if they get a #1-2 dman and Bryz continues to struggle, I'd try to trade first, buyout 2nd.

So if you want a buyout, who do you have playing goal? Bob? who's the backup?

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My frustration gets the best of me and I say I want them to start Bob or play the hot goalie.

But then I think of the big picture. This team isn't built to go past the second round (especially with Pronger out) unless there is some really favorable match-ups similar to 2010.

Let Bryz have the rest of the year and the playoffs to work through whatever he has going on. A buyout mid-season doesn't really gain them anything.

This is what's called "looking at the big picture". This team is talented but appears a few players short of being a bona fide contender (like say a #1 defenseman who can actually stay in the line up). So why get aggressive with "fixing" things at this point? This is how sensible people operate.

Contrast this with the fact that that last summer the Flyers moved "aggressively" to "fix" goaltending while at the same time trading away a big part of their core in an apparent reboot move. These moves didn't compliment each other, so we can only watch and hope at this point that there is no additional madness planned.

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@Podein25

I hope not, but with Lavy's system the almighty dollar may prevail and that will be that.

The problem as I see it is half these young guns are flourishing because of Lavy's system.

I have an idea. Ed Snider makes a "huge" political contribution to the dying Russian Space Program in exchange that they send Mr. Universe to the outer reaches of space.

That is all I can come up Pods.....

Edit: is there a kidnapping clause in the current CBA?

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Where is aziz..why is the cap hit so high for 2 years, in the buyout scenario?

it's just the way it works out. the totals are figured per year by a combination of the buyout savings (because the player only gets 2/3rd's of the remainder of the contract), the cap hit had the buyout not happened, the actual salary per season, a thing or two else. it can end up with some very strange numbers sometimes, like those two years of BIG cap hit. on the flip side, notice that the second year of the buyout, the cap hit is negative, the flyers would actually get extra space for that one year. weird stuff.

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Let's see how they finish up the year. The kids are going to learn a lot.

But I guess right now I would say if they get a #1-2 dman and Bryz continues to struggle, I'd try to trade first, buyout 2nd.

So if you want a buyout, who do you have playing goal? Bob? who's the backup?

unfortunantly it would be Leighton, but he can't play much worse than Breezy.. therefore I would give Bob 90% of the starts for experience..

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unfortunantly it would be Leighton, but he can't play much worse than Breezy.. therefore I would give Bob 90% of the starts for experience..

buyouts can only happen in the offseason....during a particular week in june, as i recall. to the extent that a buyout of bryzgalov is possible (and who knows), there would be plenty of time to deal with the backup question.

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buyouts can only happen in the offseason....during a particular week in june, as i recall. to the extent that a buyout of bryzgalov is possible (and who knows), there would be plenty of time to deal with the backup question.

I think Bob is our future anyway, we can always get a scrub to back him up...

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No, what they should do is let him run his mouth to the point where he crosses the line, suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team. stop paying him and force him to play in the KHL since no one would pick up that contract

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No, what they should do is let him run his mouth to the point where he crosses the line, suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team. stop paying him and force him to play in the KHL since no one would pick up that contract

Brilliant! But I'm glad I don't work for you.

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@orange_crush

It is ugly but too early for a couple of reasons. First of all, we're only 40 games in. While I'm skeptical, he still has time to get it together. Secondly, with the CBA set to expire, I'm sure anyone in the organization who has any thoughts of buying him out will want to wait and see what kind of one time house cleaning might be available.

Oh, and then there's the minor matter of whose idea this was in the first place: Snider's. Might get a little uncomfortable at this point for Homer to suggest that Snider had F**ked up and that the team needed to cut its loses and move on. This situation needs to marinate for a while longer.

It is so WAY to early to be thinking buyout! 40 games and the sky is falling... I agree that we wait for CBA rules and see what happens. If the re-alignment issue is any indication we could be looking at a lockout anyway.

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It is so WAY to early to be thinking buyout! 40 games and the sky is falling... I agree that we wait for CBA rules and see what happens. If the re-alignment issue is any indication we could be looking at a lockout anyway.

Let's do a targeted lockout: Bryzgalov. Everyone else can suit up and collect a pay check.

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