JackStraw Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 McKenzie tweeting that Cammo has been told he's been traded but doesn't know where yet. Says he was pulled from the game and sent back to the hotel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsguy26 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Reports on twitter are saying to Columbus for Brassard and two picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsguy26 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Scratch that, he's going back to the Flames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 So the Habs are basically giving up on the playoffs this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Scratch that, he's going back to the FlamesFor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsguy26 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 For?Cammy to Flames for Bourque + Salary dump... most likely Sarich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsguy26 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Cammalleri, 5th rounder, and the rights to a European goalie prospect for Rene Bourque, 2nd rounder in 2013, and prospect Patrick Holland. (CONFIRMED) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Don't know anything about Holland but still seems like not such a great return for a guy with Cammalleri's scoring touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsguy26 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I know. I'm pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsguy26 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Holland has 57 points in 40 games for Tri City in the WHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Just saw this on hfboards:http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=42382905&postcount=360Real_ESPNLeBrun Pierre LeBrun One NHL GM when told of the trade, said he wished he knew Cammalleri was available. Would have made an offer.So they just wanted to get him out of town for whatever they could get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsguy26 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'm guessing so... Feaster just said he and Gauthier have been talking for over a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Don't know anything about Holland but still seems like not such a great return for a guy with Cammalleri's scoring touch.Yes and no. Camerelli has been very inconsistent throughout his career. 5 of the 7 years he has played in the nhl, he has only put up 50 points. The outlier years: 06-07 80 points with the Kings and 08-09 82 points with the Flames. He mostly seems like a 25 g guy. Which is fine, but his contract of 6M is very steep. Just think how we bemoan Hartnells contract of 4m and he is essentially a 25 g guy prior to his career year this year. So, the return seems light, yet Calgary is taking that monster contract for two more seasons after the current one. Additionally, with Montreal moving that contract, they now have 8.2 in cap available without need for any LTIR relief. Where as the Flames are currently cap compliant, but they have players on LTIR. Once everyone is healthy, they will be 2.5M over the cap and will need to shed players / cap to become compliant. When you look at it in that light, you can see why the return was not as significant as you might have thought it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzFlyer Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Habs are a mess! Couldn't he speak French?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I think this is a smart move for the Habs. I like Cammalleri, but he's not a consistent player, and not one that makes his linemates better. And, I'm sure no one will ever admit this publicly, but 'tanking' seems like a pretty good approach right now. They likely won't make the playoffs, so why push a higher seeding for nothing when you have one of the deepest drafts in a long time coming up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut722 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Additionally, with Montreal moving that contract, they now have 8.2 in cap available without need for any LTIR relief. Where as the Flames are currently cap compliant, but they have players on LTIR. Once everyone is healthy, they will be 2.5M over the cap and will need to shed players / cap to become compliant.Adds a bit of creedance to the other rumors swirling around that Iginla will be traded away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I think this is a smart move for the Habs. I like Cammalleri, but he's not a consistent player, and not one that makes his linemates better. And, I'm sure no one will ever admit this publicly, but 'tanking' seems like a pretty good approach right now. They likely won't make the playoffs, so why push a higher seeding for nothing when you have one of the deepest drafts in a long time coming up? Nail Yakupov doesn't parlez vous francais. But I agree bre, the Habs need an influx of fresh talent. They are so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 @WingNut722- I like Jerome, but not at 7M and and a long tooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Yes and no. Camerelli has been very inconsistent throughout his career. 5 of the 7 years he has played in the nhl, he has only put up 50 points. The outlier years: 06-07 80 points with the Kings and 08-09 82 points with the Flames. He mostly seems like a 25 g guy. Which is fine, but his contract of 6M is very steep. Just think how we bemoan Hartnells contract of 4m and he is essentially a 25 g guy prior to his career year this year. So, the return seems light, yet Calgary is taking that monster contract for two more seasons after the current one. Additionally, with Montreal moving that contract, they now have 8.2 in cap available without need for any LTIR relief. Where as the Flames are currently cap compliant, but they have players on LTIR. Once everyone is healthy, they will be 2.5M over the cap and will need to shed players / cap to become compliant. When you look at it in that light, you can see why the return was not as significant as you might have thought it should be.Prorating the contract (using nhlnumbers here), Calgary is responsible for 2.822m against the cap this season. Next season, they have 12 UFAs that have been on the NHL roster, and 5 RFAs. They will easily make cap space, as Jokinen's 3m and Sarich's 3.6m both expire after this season.http://nhlnumbers.com/teams/CGY?year=2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Prorating the contract (using nhlnumbers here), Calgary is responsible for 2.822m against the cap this season. Next season, they have 12 UFAs that have been on the NHL roster, and 5 RFAs. They will easily make cap space, as Jokinen's 3m and Sarich's 3.6m both expire after this season.http://nhlnumbers.co...s/CGY?year=2012I plead ignorance. I borrowed my numbers from an article at tsn.ca. It would not be the first time they are wrong. Being the a-rentitive I am (and just like doing analytics), I will go "fact check". :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I meant nothing personal. Just trying to bring forward more information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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