brelic Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 NHLFlyers: #Flyers Chris Pronger issues statement: "It is very, very tough right now. I don't feel well and it hurts so much not to be playing."The timing seems a little odd, no??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Seems there is no timing... Just out of the blue. .. I have 2 theories so here are mine. 1) He knows he had to speak sooner or later or 2) he is laying the ground work for a bigger dissapointing announcement later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 http://philabright.com/2012/01/14/pronger-breaks-concussion-silence/ Pronger Breaks Concussion SilenceIt’s been nearly two months since Flyers captain Chris Pronger’s career took a turn for the concussed. On Nov. 21, he was placed on long-term injured reserve and was declared out for the remainder of the 2011-12 season with concerning and lingering concussion symptoms.With the injury came a long silence, which was broken on Saturday night on the Flyers’ official Twitter.“It is very, very tough right now,” Pronger said. “I don’t feel well and it hurts so much not to be playing.”The heartfelt statement of frustration reaffirms thoughts that the 36-year-old is indeed done for the season, which includes playoffs. Like Keith Primeau before him, who retired because of concussion issues, the unwavering set of concussion symptoms also puts Pronger’s lustrous career in jeopardy.Pronger participated in just 13 games and registered 12 points before being shut down because of the injury. Pronger has been described depressed and frustrated by Flyers staffers who have come in contact with the veteran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 A similiar statement was issued from Holmgren about 10 days ago. No player wants to end his career this way. Fortunately he has the support of the Flyers Organization and Alumni to help him through this most difficult time as his career dwindles.The timeing also seems obvous as Holmgren needs to make changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Seems there is no timing... Just out of the blue. .. I have 2 theories so here are mine. 1) He knows he had to speak sooner or later or 2) he is laying the ground work for a bigger dissapointing announcement later...i'm thinking the latter is right on. basically, he's telling the fans... and homer, don't get your hopes up, i'm not coming back. in other words, homey needs to get us a quality D man.. someway, somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 i'm thinking the latter is right on. basically, he's telling the fans... and homer, don't get your hopes up, i'm not coming back. in other words, homey needs to get us a quality D man.. someway, somehow.Right. But doesn't speaking out now actually, you know, reduce Homer's bargaining power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I don't think so. The Flyers are doing VERY well without Pronger, and while we fans all want an upgrade, we don't need one according to our record and play on most nights. An upgrade is gravy.Please Weber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terp Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 i'm thinking the latter is right on. basically, he's telling the fans... and homer, don't get your hopes up, i'm not coming back. in other words, homey needs to get us a quality D man.. someway, somehow.Yeah, but the mistake the team constantly makes is thinking it has to go out and get one tomorrow regardless of the cost. They need to chill because we aren't one player away from a Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakanekimiwa Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Yeah, but the mistake the team constantly makes is thinking it has to go out and get one tomorrow regardless of the cost. They need to chill because we aren't one player away from a Cup.right.. well, we all know great D men don't grow on trees and they are a hot commodity. i'm hoping they just wait until the trade deadline, if something makes sense, i'm sure they'll do it. if not, i'm hoping they don't jump the gun on something. maybe it's better to just wait until summer and see what pans out in nashville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcor1313 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 i feel really bad for pronger. i hope that these sysmptons subside eventually and allow him to continue his hof carrer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 i feel really bad for pronger. i hope that these sysmptons subside eventually and allow him to continue his hof carrer somewhere else Fixed it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcor1313 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Fixed it for you.Thanks! HAHAYou have to admit hes the only d man weve had in the past few seasons that would actually clear the crease. Kimmo puts his body in front of so many shots, mezaros is our better point man and carle and cobourn have looked lost on both ends this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyguys03 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 He is done. Best he can hope for now is recovering to have a normal life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Thanks! HAHAYou have to admit hes the only d man weve had in the past few seasons that would actually clear the crease. Kimmo puts his body in front of so many shots, mezaros is our better point man and carle and cobourn have looked lost on both ends this year Ya, I just don't want him hanging around for the duration of his contract. Can you imagine him in 5 years? Ugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcor1313 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ya, I just don't want him hanging around for the duration of his contract. Can you imagine him in 5 years? Ugh!looks like they are going to LITR him for the next 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo 47 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Seems there is no timing... Just out of the blue. .. I have 2 theories so here are mine. 1) He knows he had to speak sooner or later or 2) he is laying the ground work for a bigger dissapointing announcement later...Hey Idaho! I agree that number 2 is what is coming. I honestly think that as much as he loves the game and is a warrior; he values his family life more. Continuing to play and sustaining another head injury could lead to permanent damage.Being that he is such a team player I can see him going on LTIR of physically unable to play list or whatever list there is to alleviate some cap space and give the team room to acquire help before the deadline.It truly sucks that two of the best Captains we've had in Preems and Pronger will have their careers ended with head injuries and another captain in Lindros, whose head injuries prevented him from being the greatest Flyer ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyguys03 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Ya, I just don't want him hanging around for the duration of his contract. Can you imagine him in 5 years? Ugh!I couldn't imagine him in 5 years before all this stuff happened. His knees and his back are already breaking or broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 A little more informational about Pronger, his status and how his status plays into the salary cap & trades Homer can make.Chris Pronger's sullen words on Saturday were not nearly as revealing as his silence over the past 6 weeks.Pronger, 37, issued a brief statement through the Flyers, his first public peep since two Pittsburgh-area concussion specialists shockingly ruled on Dec. 15 that he would miss the balance of the regular season and playoffs."It is very, very tough right now," Pronger said. "I don't feel well and it hurts so much to not be playing."Pronger, named the 18th captain in Flyers history in September, has steered clear of the team's practice facility. His teammates - and the Flyers' public relations department - say that he has rarely kept in touch, often not responding to messages.Seemingly, the only person who has maintained regular contact with Pronger is Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren, who said in a report last week that the two speak once or twice a week.Last week, Pronger's nameplate disappeared from the Flyers locker room for the first time since he was traded to here from Anaheim in June 2009. His stall has since been occupied by rookie Harry Zolnierczyk. The Flyers have yet to comment on the status of his captaincy.While the Flyers grapple with how to replace Pronger in the locker room - both in the near and long terms - the bigger question is how they will fill his void on the ice.There are 42 days until the Feb. 27 trade deadline. And no player throws a wrench into the Flyers' plans like Pronger, who is in the second year of a 7-year, $34.45-million deal that carries a $4.92 million salary cap hit until 2017, when he will be 42 years old.Since Pronger signed his 7-year extension when he was 35, the Flyers are saddled with his salary cap hit for the duration of the contract, whether or not he is still playing. The rule, part of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, was put into place to prevent teams from circumventing the salary cap by signing aging stars to long-term deals for huge sums of money (to lower the annual cap hit) only to retire early in the deal.Back in December, Holmgren said it was a "fair question" to ask if Pronger's career was in jeopardy. Now, more than ever, the Flyers are banking on the fact that Pronger will not hang up his skates.Currently, Pronger is on the long-term injured reserve, which gives the Flyers a cushion equal to his $4.92-million salary-cap hit to replace him with another player. He could theoretically remain on the long-term injured reserve, should he not be deemed physically fit to play, for the duration of his contract.That's what the Flyers have done with Ian Laperriere for each of the last two seasons. His contract expires at the end of this year.Pronger's situation is different. What if Pronger is planning to take this season off, to let his brain heal, before trying to resume his Hall-of-Fame career? The Flyers have operated so close to the salary cap ceiling - $64.3 million this year - that they could not afford to add an expensive defenseman at the deadline without first trading salary.As the trade deadline approaches, the Flyers are in the process of determining exactly how much salary they can take on. But if it was hard to predict in December how Pronger will feel in May, it's more daunting to guesstimate now how Pronger will react to physical exertion in September, should he even want to risk his future day-to-day health.As it stands, the Flyers have north of $3 million in cushion to add for the rest of this season. That's not the problem. It's predicting the future. Next year, the Flyers already have $21.3 million committed to Pronger, Kimmo Timonen, Braydon Coburn, Andrej Meszaros, Andreas Lilja and Erik Gustafsson. Matt Carle ($3.437 million) is the Flyers' only unrestricted free agent.The easiest solution would be for the Flyers to add an affordable rental-type player, like Carolina's Tim Gleason. But in order to bring in a star, like Nashville's Ryan Suter - who is reportedly No. 1 on the Flyers' wish list - the Flyers would need to deal a quality piece from their lineup without the guarantee that Suter would be in their lineup next October.It would be even more daring to trade for someone like Toronto's Luke Schenn, who has 4 years and $14.4 million remaining on his contract, without knowing the future salary-cap implications of Pronger and Carle (if any) moving forward. Frank Seravalli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I feel for the guy and his family.As expected, Philadelphia Flyers defenseman Chris Pronger is unlikely to play again this season, general manager Paul Holmgren told reporters. Pronger has more pressing issues, his wife, Laura, told Comcast SportsNet this week.Concussion woes have kept Pronger for two months after the defenseman was hit in the eye by a stick during a game against the Toronto Maple Leafs on Oct. 24. After not playing for the past two months, Pronger was already expected to miss the season and playoffs."It's a tough go at home. We're going day-to-day right now - good days, bad days," Laura Pronger told Comcast. "It's been a lot of trauma going on. We're just praying right now. He's battling. He wants to be out there more than anybody. It's tough for all of us to watch him go through this."Pronger, who had 12 points, with one goal after his last game on Nov. 19, issued a statement last week saying, "It is very, very tough right now. I don't feel well and it hurts so much not to be playing."Holmgren told reporters Pronger has made various attempts to get better, from having prescription glasses made, to doctor visits to "some other treatment regimens. He's seeing the doctors again Feb. 1. We'll have a little better idea where we're at—or maybe we won't, I don't know. We'll continue to monitor and hope for the best." yahoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 2) he is laying the ground work for a bigger dissapointing announcement later...You will never hear official announcement of retirement if that is what you are alluding too. If he was to do such a thing, the Flyers could not ITIR him and would have to absorb his cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 @Vanflyer Exactly Van.....and you can bet your bottom dollar that the Flyers and Chris discussed this scenario before signing.....that's assuming they knew the 35 rule and how it applied to Prongs.....which is certainly up for debate....lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 @Vanflyer Exactly Van.....and you can bet your bottom dollar that the Flyers and Chris discussed this scenario before signing.....that's assuming they knew the 35 rule and how it applied to Prongs.....which is certainly up for debate....lol.Even if there is a "grandfather" clause in the new CBA- ie. one time buyout, my guess is that one time buyout would go to Bryz. Much smarter to cut 8 more years of 5.6 m than 5 more years of 4.9 m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzFlyer Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 You will never hear official announcement of retirement if that is what you are alluding too. If he was to do such a thing, the Flyers could not ITIR him and would have to absorb his cap hit.This is just about the time when the well meaning friends suggest "Alternative Therapies"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Not sure acid will help a concussion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 @doom88 'Shrooms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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