darthbal Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I just read the following on Spector's Hockey. Quote CANADIENS AND FLYERS TALKING ABOUT GOSTISBEHERE? TVA SPORTS: cites NHL Network collaborators Dennis Bernstein and Anthony Di Marco claiming the Montreal Canadiens have been linked to Philadelphia Flyers defenseman Shayne Gostisbehere. There’s no deal pending between the two clubs. Di Marco said the Flyers are interested in rugged Canadiens forward Andrew Shaw. Bernstein added Flyers GM Chuck Fletcher is also looking at speedy left wing Paul Byron. SPECTOR’S NOTE: Gostisbehere to Montreal for Shaw and Byron? I don’t see that one happening. Too lopsided in the Canadiens’ favor. “The Ghost Bear” is a former Calder Trophy finalist (2016) who is a year removed from a career-high 65-point performance. While his production dropped to 37 points this season, I attribute that to the fact the Flyers were a mess this season. He would certainly address the Habs’ need for a skilled left-side blueliner. Shaw is a physical player who can play center or wing and has a decent scoring touch. He also has a long history of injuries and takes too many undisciplined penalties. Losing Byron would rob the Canadiens of a fast-skating 20-goal scorer. That could be offset, however, via free agency or with one of their promising youngsters within their system. Personally, I am not for this trade, for one, like Spector said, it would require more to come to Philly, before I would even think about it. Also, I am not sure that I would want o move Ghost just yet, I think that with better coaching, and a stable partner he would do better than this past season, heck the whole team will do better with better coaching, so got to hope that the AV team can get those guys to play better. Although, I would not mind seeing Byron on the team, he and G have plaid together in Jr, and they seem to push each other and feed each other as well; plus they are still good friends. Now I am not saying that I would put Byron and G on the same line, but once in a whyle, it could not hurty. Plus getting a fast-skating 20 goal scorer, would not hurt the Flyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, darthbal said: I just read the following on Spector's Hockey. Personally, I am not for this trade, for one, like Spector said, it would require more to come to Philly, before I would even think about it. Also, I am not sure that I would want o move Ghost just yet, I think that with better coaching, and a stable partner he would do better than this past season, heck the whole team will do better with better coaching, so got to hope that the AV team can get those guys to play better. Although, I would not mind seeing Byron on the team, he and G have plaid together in Jr, and they seem to push each other and feed each other as well; plus they are still good friends. Now I am not saying that I would put Byron and G on the same line, but once in a whyle, it could not hurty. Plus getting a fast-skating 20 goal scorer, would not hurt the Flyers. I don't actually understand why the Flyers keep getting linked to leftwingers. I'm not hot to trade Ghost, but if I'm going to trade him it's for a need. I don't perceive leftwing as a need unless they're moving Giroux to center or right. Yeah, I like Byron, a lot, but not for Ghost. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, darthbal said: I just read the following on Spector's Hockey. Personally, I am not for this trade, for one, like Spector said, it would require more to come to Philly, before I would even think about it. Also, I am not sure that I would want o move Ghost just yet, I think that with better coaching, and a stable partner he would do better than this past season, heck the whole team will do better with better coaching, so got to hope that the AV team can get those guys to play better. Although, I would not mind seeing Byron on the team, he and G have plaid together in Jr, and they seem to push each other and feed each other as well; plus they are still good friends. Now I am not saying that I would put Byron and G on the same line, but once in a whyle, it could not hurty. Plus getting a fast-skating 20 goal scorer, would not hurt the Flyers. If they want Ghost their offee better start with Ryan Poehling or hang up the phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, ruxpin said: I don't actually understand why the Flyers keep getting linked to leftwingers. I'm not hot to trade Ghost, but if I'm going to trade him it's for a need. I don't perceive leftwing as a need unless they're moving Giroux to center or right. Yeah, I like Byron, a lot, but not for Ghost. Yeah if they want Ghost they need to start with Ryan Poehling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Blech 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brelic Posted June 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2019 I don't understand trading a high-caliber offensive defenseman for middle six wingers. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Podein25 Posted June 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, brelic said: I don't understand trading a high-caliber offensive defenseman for middle six wingers. As a longtime Flyer fan, I would think you are in the perfect position to understand it! 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intheslot Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 One thing when Hexy was here you didn't hear any of this click bait bull ... not going to happen .. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekkes85 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Proposal I made on a AGM site was Ghost for 15thOA, Joni Ikonen (should be in the NHL next year), and Shaw. Tatar or Drouin could be targets as well but not sure if Montreal would give them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 4 hours ago, darthbal said: I just read the following on Spector's Hockey. Personally, I am not for this trade, for one, like Spector said, it would require more to come to Philly, before I would even think about it. Also, I am not sure that I would want o move Ghost just yet, I think that with better coaching, and a stable partner he would do better than this past season, heck the whole team will do better with better coaching, so got to hope that the AV team can get those guys to play better. Although, I would not mind seeing Byron on the team, he and G have plaid together in Jr, and they seem to push each other and feed each other as well; plus they are still good friends. Now I am not saying that I would put Byron and G on the same line, but once in a whyle, it could not hurty. Plus getting a fast-skating 20 goal scorer, would not hurt the Flyers. This is a stupid trade and it can't possibly be under consideration. Makes ZERO sense for the Flyers. They Might as well just stick with Patrick and take a gamble on Frost being ready. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 43 minutes ago, King Knut said: This is a stupid trade and it can't possibly be under consideration. Makes ZERO sense for the Flyers. They Might as well just stick with Patrick and take a gamble on Frost being ready. Yeah. Shaw would be a non-starter for me right out of the gate. Byron is a nice player, but he just doesn't fill a need unless something is going on somewhere else that is going to create that need. But not for Ghost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 This rumor has to be coming from Montreal. Neither of those guys is worth Ghost. If Ghost is being traded its part of a deal for a center if we dont sign Hayes or veteran dman like Trouba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 One of the rumors I read said it was Ghost for both of them and even then that trade would favor Montreal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 We could literally steal one of Torontos RFA young speedy 20 goal scorers , Kapenen or Johnnson, the compensation would be a second rounder or even offer them the rights to our college prospects who arent gonna sign.They are up against the wall. Why would you trade an asset like Ghost for an average winger like those guys. Ghost is our best trading chip, if hes traded , has got to be used in a blockbuster deal for an impact player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindbergh31 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 9 hours ago, King Knut said: This is a stupid trade and it can't possibly be under consideration. Makes ZERO sense for the Flyers. They Might as well just stick with Patrick and take a gamble on Frost being ready. Agreed, if Fletcher makes any trade with Montreal he should be shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Lindbergh31 said: Agreed, if Fletcher makes any trade with Montreal he should be shot! I’d still consider taking Weber off their hands in exchange for Hagg or something... if they retain half Shea’s salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 3 hours ago, RonJeremy said: We could literally steal one of Torontos RFA young speedy 20 goal scorers , Kapenen or Johnnson, the compensation would be a second rounder or even offer them the rights to our college prospects who arent gonna sign.They are up against the wall. Why would you trade an asset like Ghost for an average winger like those guys. Ghost is our best trading chip, if hes traded , has got to be used in a blockbuster deal for an impact player. Total agreement. I think you could even make a gentleman’s agreement with TO on the offer sheet. They would want picks most likely anyway. You package a Ghost in a deal for Marner. Not mediocre Schlubs. Speaking of Marner, if you were gonna offer sheet anyone... he’d likely be worth the picks... but it would likely end Fletcher the way it ended a Homer as you might get a handshake from Toronto over Kappenan or Johnson for offer sheet picks, but Marner is a different story entirely. Homer should have named himself GM again just to do it, then stepped aside afterwards. I’d applaud such hideous douchebaggery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, King Knut said: I’d still consider taking Weber off their hands in exchange for Hagg or something... if they retain half Shea’s salary. Uh no. He is 33 with 7 more years left on his contract...so that would be 7 mill for him till he is 37...and then i don't even know how to figure out what the end would be like but it smells like cap recapture penalty if he hangs them up early. Besides his decline in play has already happened. That ship has sailed. Stay the f**k away from him. CURRENT CONTRACT STANDARD CONTRACT COMPARE THIS CONTRACT LENGTH: 14 YEARS EXPIRY STATUS: UFA SIGNING TEAM: Nashville Predators VALUE: $110,000,000 C.H.% : 13.10 SIGNING DATE: July 24, 2012 SOURCE: CapGeek SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY 2012-13 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $13,000,000 $1,000,000 $14,000,000 $14,000,000 2013-14 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $13,000,000 $1,000,000 $14,000,000 $14,000,000 2014-15 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $13,000,000 $1,000,000 $14,000,000 $14,000,000 2015-16 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $13,000,000 $1,000,000 $14,000,000 $14,000,000 2016-17 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $8,000,000 $4,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 2017-18 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $8,000,000 $4,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 2018-19 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2019-20 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2020-21 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2021-22 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2022-23 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 2023-24 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 2024-25 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 2025-26 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 TOTAL $110,000,002 $110,000,002 $0 $68,000,000 $42,000,000 $110,000,000 $110,000,000 Edited June 13, 2019 by OccamsRazor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 This trade (and I use that term loosely) is a joke. I will now search for a nice bottle of Bourbon to remove the thought from my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: Uh no. He is 33 with 7 more years left on his contract...so that would be 7 mill for him till he is 37...and then i don't even know how to figure out what the end would be like but it smells like cap recapture penalty if he hangs them up early. Besides his decline in play has already happened. That ship has sailed. Stay the f**k away from him. CURRENT CONTRACT STANDARD CONTRACT COMPARE THIS CONTRACT LENGTH: 14 YEARS EXPIRY STATUS: UFA SIGNING TEAM: Nashville Predators VALUE: $110,000,000 C.H.% : 13.10 SIGNING DATE: July 24, 2012 SOURCE: CapGeek SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY 2012-13 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $13,000,000 $1,000,000 $14,000,000 $14,000,000 2013-14 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $13,000,000 $1,000,000 $14,000,000 $14,000,000 2014-15 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $13,000,000 $1,000,000 $14,000,000 $14,000,000 2015-16 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $13,000,000 $1,000,000 $14,000,000 $14,000,000 2016-17 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $8,000,000 $4,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 2017-18 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $8,000,000 $4,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 2018-19 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2019-20 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2020-21 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2021-22 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2022-23 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 2023-24 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 2024-25 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 2025-26 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 TOTAL $110,000,002 $110,000,002 $0 $68,000,000 $42,000,000 $110,000,000 $110,000,000 What idiot gave him that contract??? Oh, right... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, brelic said: What idiot gave him that contract??? Oh, right... The gift that keeps on giving .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 5 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: Uh no. He is 33 with 7 more years left on his contract...so that would be 7 mill for him till he is 37...and then i don't even know how to figure out what the end would be like but it smells like cap recapture penalty if he hangs them up early. Besides his decline in play has already happened. That ship has sailed. Stay the f**k away from him. CURRENT CONTRACT STANDARD CONTRACT COMPARE THIS CONTRACT LENGTH: 14 YEARS EXPIRY STATUS: UFA SIGNING TEAM: Nashville Predators VALUE: $110,000,000 C.H.% : 13.10 SIGNING DATE: July 24, 2012 SOURCE: CapGeek SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY 2012-13 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $13,000,000 $1,000,000 $14,000,000 $14,000,000 2013-14 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $13,000,000 $1,000,000 $14,000,000 $14,000,000 2014-15 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $13,000,000 $1,000,000 $14,000,000 $14,000,000 2015-16 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $13,000,000 $1,000,000 $14,000,000 $14,000,000 2016-17 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $8,000,000 $4,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 2017-18 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $8,000,000 $4,000,000 $12,000,000 $12,000,000 2018-19 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2019-20 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2020-21 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2021-22 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 $6,000,000 2022-23 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 $3,000,000 2023-24 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 2024-25 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 2025-26 $7,857,143 $7,857,143 $0 $0 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 $1,000,000 TOTAL $110,000,002 $110,000,002 $0 $68,000,000 $42,000,000 $110,000,000 $110,000,000 Its only 7 years and I was joking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, pilldoc said: The gift that keeps on giving .... I’ll grant that it is tempting to deal with the moron who traded PK Subban for that contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, King Knut said: Its only 7 years and I was joking I was hoping you was....or I thought rux had hijacked your account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, King Knut said: I’ll grant that it is tempting to deal with the moron who traded PK Subban for that contract. There are only 3 guys on that team I would even want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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