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McKenzie: Hayes signed - 7 yrs / 50 milion

Do you like this signing?  

42 members have voted

  1. 1. Do you like the terms that the Flyers gave Hayes? (7 yrs / ~50 million)

    • Yes - Best deal the Flyers could come up with
      2
    • Yes - Glad he is a Flyers but signed for too much
      23
    • Hell No! - Too much money. What is Fletcher doing to us???
      17


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5 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

Look at the date that was just in jest of course he hadn't done anything yet it was only August...

 

 

 

 

Fly Eagles Fly

 

 

No, I know...  I thought we were being just all around sarcastic.  

 

 

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18 hours ago, LegionOfDoom said:

I will say this about Hayes, in watching him play, he is looking like he is living up to his contract. He is falling into Couturier level of knowing how to hold on and maintain control of the puck, he was able to score a nice behind the net wrap around goal and is able to 9 out of 10 times skate with the puck out of the defensive zone and if trapped, he seems to be able to put it out of harms way.

His determination defensively is reminiscent of Coots skill level as well. I would trust him with the puck on his stick in the same company as Claude and Sean. Lindblom is getting there as well.

 

Hayes also can be another face off option as well. He is more versatile then Duchene. He has a LeClaire'ish way of putting his backside to the puck to protect it as he's going into the high danger zones. Kenny Loggins would be proud.

 

 

 

 

 

Somehow in the span of a few months, this thread got from Kevin Hayes being signed, to his butt being a "Danger Zone" to "enflamed vaginitis" 

 

well done.  keepin' it classy!

 

 

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4 hours ago, Hockey-78 said:

Seriously... were you high?! Obviously "you" was used in passive form, people in general.

Or you really thought "you" signed him to a 7 year contract and not Fletch? :DohSmiley:

You yourself wrote "we are over Hayes by now". This thread has many Flyers fans saying the deal wasn't great. "We have moved to voracek..." Oh really? 🙄 Quit trying to be a censorship. Freedom of speech and so on...

My father always told me, "Never argue with an idiot, he will just drag you down to his level and beat you with experience"

 

Thank you for proving him correct

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2 hours ago, King Knut said:

 

Somehow in the span of a few months, this thread got from Kevin Hayes being signed, to his butt being a "Danger Zone" to "enflamed vaginitis" 

 

well done.  keepin' it classy!

 

 

 You can't Polish a turd

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On 10/20/2019 at 10:40 AM, Hockey-78 said:

6 games, 1 point, -4... ouch.

 

"Right market value". Hopefully the market isn't this right for the next 7 years, the league will go in bankrupt.

The Eye test doesn't justify those numbers.

He has been a positive factor in each game.

Have you seen him play?

"Right market value". is what it is. Look at Duchene. Hayes is more valuable that's for sure and cheaper.

The market is this right and will be right alot higher in the next 7 years. The league needs to remove the cap ceiling and let teams be allowed to buy who they want.

Bankrupt the cap ceiling to remove it from the league.

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16 hours ago, LegionOfDoom said:

"Right market value". is what it is. Look at Duchene. Hayes is more valuable that's for sure and cheaper.

 

 

I'm not gonna harp on Hayes, as I think he'll be fine, but I'm not sure comparing him to Duchene is fair.

 

For one thing, they're different players. Duchene has an offensive ability Hayes does not, and Hayes is better defensively. As far as which of the two has been most valuable, Duchene has 11pts in 9 games this year so far.

 

He is costing NSH one mil more than Hayes is costing here, but he also has no clauses at all until 22-23. And more importantly...

 

Look, I like Hayes. I like that he's defensively responsible, and I'm happy he's in an O&B sweater this year. That said, it's entirely possible Duchene will be a top 20 in pts or maybe even top 10 this year on the best team he's ever played for. There's no way Hayes gets to that point. 

 

Again, this isn't crapping on Hayes, but I don't think making this comparison is going to be a good one long term. "Value" is a hard sell when one guy ends the season with 80pts and the other with 45.

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On 10/24/2019 at 4:03 PM, elmatus said:

 

I'm not gonna harp on Hayes, as I think he'll be fine, but I'm not sure comparing him to Duchene is fair.

 

For one thing, they're different players. Duchene has an offensive ability Hayes does not, and Hayes is better defensively. As far as which of the two has been most valuable, Duchene has 11pts in 9 games this year so far.

 

He is costing NSH one mil more than Hayes is costing here, but he also has no clauses at all until 22-23. And more importantly...

 

Look, I like Hayes. I like that he's defensively responsible, and I'm happy he's in an O&B sweater this year. That said, it's entirely possible Duchene will be a top 20 in pts or maybe even top 10 this year on the best team he's ever played for. There's no way Hayes gets to that point. 

 

Again, this isn't crapping on Hayes, but I don't think making this comparison is going to be a good one long term. "Value" is a hard sell when one guy ends the season with 80pts and the other with 45.

Where I'm looking at it, is through which tool is better for our team. I would of loved to of won on Duchene because of his scoring.

But in regards to what our team could use more of is another Coots type player. Hayes is a big body and almost uses it as a shadow of Jagr in how he is able to hold on to the puck. I think Hayes is playing better offensively in the O and B. He seems to be the better part for our team than Duchene would of been. Would Duchene have been in AV's doghouse by now? I don't know. But Hayes is playing the right way and has the tools to seem to be an effective Playoff player in a deep run 7 game series. I know it's premature but Playoff Primeau's shadow seems to be on the ice when I see Hayes skating up and down. I don't recall what it was a goal, a chip in, and assist but Hayes was gassed and he was able to expend a bit more energy to complete his play in one of the previous games where he came back on the bench and I was impressed by his perseverance in going the extra mile. I think he scored a goal or created a goal scoring opportunity.

 

Duchene might end up scoring more goals or points than Hayes. But if someone asked me to trade Coots for a higher goal/point scorer, I would pass because Coots is able to do more things than just wrack up the points.

Again Duchene would of been a nice pickup for sure. But I think Hayes is what this team needed and because of the high cost to entry to get him, this thread started out as he was way over payed and not worth it.  He seems to be using his smarts and physical abilities now. Five years from now, he should still be able to use his smarts even though his physical abilities might not be as high. He can also play wing to complicate things less going forward.

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17 minutes ago, hf101 said:

 

 

All he does is score goals....what a bum!!!!! :hithead:

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He lost the faceoff in the zone nice way to make up for it...a shorty for the game winner...

 

 

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I believe it was Bill Clement that mentioned Kevin Hayes game reminding him of Kieth Primeau.. I thought I saw his shadow out there as well..

 

 

Feel the Shake!

 

 

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Highway To The Dangerzone....

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