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Howie58

Game 8: Flyers at Blackhawks: 10/24 @ 8:30

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Greetings:

 

We appear to be mild favorites.  Statistically, our shots against is among the best in the league and it shows against the Hawks.  Our PP% is a lot better:

 

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The goalie matchup should be interesting.  Crawford is sub .900; Lehner is .943 and sub 2.0 GAA.  I read that the Moose may be rewarded with a start after his performance against the Knights.  We shall see.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Howie58 said:

Greetings:

 

We appear to be mild favorites.  Statistically, our shots against is among the best in the league and it shows against the Hawks.  Our PP% is a lot better:

 

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The goalie matchup should be interesting.  Crawford is sub .900; Lehner is .943 and sub 2.0 GAA.  I read that the Moose may be rewarded with a start after his performance against the Knights.  We shall see.  

 

 

I think Moose is getting the start with Hart set for Columbus.  I forget which beat writer.

 

I think it's fair because the team has to ride any momentum it can get.  But still, Hart's got to get back on track asap.

 

I really don't blame any of the Dallas goals on him... at least not like you could easily blame so many of the Edmonton goals on him.  

 

Still... you want to see him get his head right and play like he can.  He wasn't.  

 

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@brelic

 

We discussed this somewhere around here can't remember which thread so i put it here why not.

 

For what it's worth...per Eklund ofcourse...

 

As a side-note, I recently learned the Flyers and Stars discussed a Benn/Voracek deal in the summer....

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5 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

@brelic

 

We discussed this somewhere around here can't remember which thread so i put it here why not.

 

For what it's worth...per Eklund ofcourse...

 

As a side-note, I recently learned the Flyers and Stars discussed a Benn/Voracek deal in the summer....

 

Eklund said that?  

 

The Stars had to be asking for something else that was a bridge too far.  That's a fair trade straight up on paper, but Benn's their captain and has much better possession metrics and an actual positive plus/minus.

 

Jake/Myers?  Jake/Ghost?  Jake/Frost?   What in god's name were they asking for that was too rich for Fletch?

 

or is Eklund just being Eklund?

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8 minutes ago, King Knut said:

 

or is Eklund just being Eklund?

 

Honestly i have to say this.

 

Besides Benn is slightly more 1.25 mill more per season and an extra year than Jake.

 

That and Benn is a LW too.

 

They already have Giorux, Lindblom and JVR down the left side however you can move guys around and make it work.

 

More like an Eklund wet dream...

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3 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

Besides Benn is slightly more 1.25 mill more per season and an extra year than Jake.

 

 

Might be hard to make the money work, but I would take Benn over Voracek for sure. I bet @King Knut is right that they were asking for something else as well.

 

Or, you know, Eklund.

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3 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

As a side-note, I recently learned the Flyers and Stars discussed a Benn/Voracek deal in the summer....

 

So instead of Benn, the Flyers got Pitlick?  I can't even come up with a good punchline for that!

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18 minutes ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said:

 

So instead of Benn, the Flyers got Pitlick?  I can't even come up with a good punchline for that!

 

Pitlick....a poor man's Jamie Benn?? No? Ok it's all i got. :beer:

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Meh, I wouldn't trade Jake for Benn. 

 

In both cases, they've peaked for their careers and are on the decline. Benn is signed for more for longer. No thanks. 

 

To me that's a sideways move at best (Lucic for Neal kind of trade). 

 

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PROJECTED LINES

FLYERS

25 James van Riemsdyk - 28 Claude Giroux - 93 Jakub Voracek
23 Oskar Lindblom - 14 Sean Couturier - 11 Travis Konecny
21 Scott Laughton - 13 Kevin Hayes - 49 Joel Farabee
12 Michael Raffl - 24 Mikhail Vorobyev - 44 Chris Stewart

9 Ivan Provorov - 15 Matt Niskanen
6 Travis Sanheim - 61 Justin Braun
53 Shayne Gostisbehere - 8 Robert Hägg

37 Brian Elliott
[79 Carter Hart]

Power Play 1: Giroux, JVR, Farabee, Voracek, Gostisbehere.
Power Play 2: Lindblom, Couturier, Konecny, Provorov, Niskanen.

Scratches: 18 Tyler Pitlick (healthy), 55 Sam Morin (healthy).
Injured non-roster: 19 Nolan Patrick (migraines).

BLACKHAWKS

65 Andrew Shaw - 19 Jonathan Toews - 12 Alex DeBrincat
17 Dylan Strome - 77 Kirby Dach - 88 Patrick Kane
20 Brandon Saad - 64 David Kampf - 8 Dominik Kubalik
91 Drake Caggiula - 22 Ryan Carpenter - 92 Alexander Nylander

2 Duncan Keith - 68 Slater Koekkoek
6 Olli Määttä - 7 Brent Seabrook
44 Calvin de Haan - 56 Erik Gustafsson

50 Corey Crawford / 40 Robin Lehner

Power play 1: Strome, Toews, Kane, DeBrincat, Gustafsson.
Power play 2: Saad, Shaw, Kubalik, Keith, Seabrook.

Scratches: 11 Brendan Perlini (healthy), 15 Zack Smith (healthy), 39 Dennis Gilbert or 68 Slater Koekkoek (healthy).
Long-term injured reserve: 5 Connor Murphy (groin).

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Vigneault will use the same line combinations against Chicago that the team featured in the Vegas game. On Tuesday, after praising the other three forward lines from Monday's game, the head coach challenged the trio of Claude Giroux (0g, 4a), Voracek (2g, 2a) and James van Riemsdyk (0 points) to "figure it out" together.

One of the things I like about this Coach ..

 

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1 hour ago, intheslot said:

FLYERS

25 James van Riemsdyk - 28 Claude Giroux - 93 Jakub Voracek
23 Oskar Lindblom - 14 Sean Couturier - 11 Travis Konecny
21 Scott Laughton - 13 Kevin Hayes - 49 Joel Farabee
12 Michael Raffl - 24 Mikhail Vorobyev - 44 Chris Stewart

9 Ivan Provorov - 15 Matt Niskanen
6 Travis Sanheim - 61 Justin Braun
53 Shayne Gostisbehere - 8 Robert Hägg

37 Brian Elliott
[79 Carter Hart]

 

I don't think you could put together better lines than these with the players that are available.  

When Patrick is back and playing:

Girioux - Couturier - Voracek

JVR - Hayes - Konecny

Lindblom - Patrick - Farabee  (kids line)

Raffl - Vorobyev - Laughton

(Frost is the first up)

 

Provorov - Niskanen

Sanheim - Braun

Ghost - Myers

(Hagg)

 

Hart

Elliot

 

That really is a legit lineup that could finally win a playoff series or two.

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3 hours ago, intheslot said:


Vigneault will use the same line combinations against Chicago that the team featured in the Vegas game. On Tuesday, after praising the other three forward lines from Monday's game, the head coach challenged the trio of Claude Giroux (0g, 4a), Voracek (2g, 2a) and James van Riemsdyk (0 points) to "figure it out" together.

One of the things I like about this Coach ..

 

 

 

I like that he's holding them accountable, but I don't like that he's expecting a line of three wingers with no natural center to sort things out in three periods.  

 

They're the vets on this team and as such they should be able to do so... but even as vets, and even though G spent a few years at center (mostly his worst), I don't see this as AV "calling them out" so much as stating a fact.  They'll need to sort it out.  

 

Maybe if all three of the other lines hadn't done quite well, he'd mix and match some more, but if 3/4 of your lines are clicking and the 4th is all talented vets, you gotta expect they're going to do so and I expect based on the stories of the last two days of tailored practices, it seems it's AV's intention to help them do so.  

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3 minutes ago, King Knut said:

a line of three wingers with no natural center

 

Has Giroux not played quite a bit of ice hockey at center (aka long snapper)?

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Just now, Podein25 said:

 

Has Giroux not played quite a bit of ice hockey at center (aka long snapper)?

 

Pretty much his worst years and not for a while, right?  I added to my original post to cover that.  

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5 minutes ago, King Knut said:

 

Pretty much his worst years and not for a while, right?  I added to my original post to cover that.  

 

I think they can figure it out.

 

He isn't bad as a center just wasn't as good as he was on the wing.

 

Still the rest of the team is playing fine I let those 3 figure it out.

 

The worst part of it is that Giroux won't have much defensive help from his wingers.

 

That's the part that concerns me most his wingers won't come back into their end unless it just to circle back towards the redline.

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2 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

I think they can figure it out.

 

He isn't bad as a center just wasn't as good as he was on the wing.

 

Still the rest of the team is playing fine I let those 3 figure it out.

 

The worst part of it is that Giroux won't have much defensive help from his wingers.

 

That's the part that concerns me most his wingers won't come back into their end unless it just to circle back towards the redline.

 

This is what I'm saying.  Just that it makes sense that it wouldn't all fall into place immediately.  he's not bad at center (as evidenced by how many faceoffs he takes as a winger) but he hasn't done it for a while.

 

As far as jake and jvr, that's part of figuring it out righ?  their best chance may just be to either score quickly or cycle in the other end and win the possession game.  

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8 minutes ago, King Knut said:

he hasn't done it for a while

 

It's like riding a bike my concerned friend. 

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1 minute ago, Podein25 said:

 

It's like riding a bike my concerned friend. 

 

I used to ride my mountain bike up and down some pretty crazy stuff 20 years ago.

Might take me a ride or to not to fall on my teeth if I tried it tonight.

 

All i"m saying.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, King Knut said:

 

I used to ride my mountain bike up and down some pretty crazy stuff 20 years ago.

Might take me a ride or to not to fall on my teeth if I tried it tonight.

 

All i"m saying.

 

 

 

There is an inside joke there about riding a bike near a wharf or something....@ruxpin would know it.

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1 minute ago, Podein25 said:

 

There is an inside joke there about riding a bike near a wharf or something....@ruxpin would know it.

 

I can't wait!

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Bottom 6 score a ton .

Flyers.........4

hawks.........2

hayes has a goal and 2 helpers.

Farabee pots deuce

Raffl the rifle gets en ...

Go Flyers....!!

...nice punch line ...

 

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