Hutchinson: The Latest Scapegoat in Toronto

[WordsOfWisdom]

If you look at the game against Chicago last night, most of those goals against Hutchison he had no chance on. Chicago forwards were getting clean one-timers, were able to skate right into the slot untouched, etc...  Hutchison becomes the latest Leafs goalie to be ruined in Toronto. 

 

I guess since you can't fire the six guys in front of him, you have to fire the goalie. Codi Cedi (lost coverage), Jake Muzzin (horrible turnover). Spezza's line seemed to be on the ice for every Chicago goal. 

 

The Leafs stars showed up offensively. Matthews, Nylander, Tavares, all contributing. Their talent is being wasted on this pretender of a team. 

 

 

Edited November 11, 2019 by WordsOfWisdom

[AJgoal]

 

[WordsOfWisdom]

11 minutes ago, AJgoal said:

 

 

Bob McKenzie echos my sentiments.  I looked at his record this season and the game in Chicago last night and thought wow, this kid never had a chance with that defence in front of him. I couldn't believe they gave up on him already. Unreal. 

[WordsOfWisdom]

And no, I did not read Bob McKenzie's tweets before I posted the thread lol!  

 

[hobie]

Andersen had 4 breakaways last night against Van., he stopped them all, that's the difference between a good/great goaltender and Hutch. 

 

I think it's premature to give up on Hutch.

[Hockey-78]

You guys need another goalie. Hutchinson can't cut it and Andersen, even how good he is, can't play all the games. He's already playing too many minutes.

 

Dubnyk straight up for a center?

[WordsOfWisdom]

7 hours ago, hobie said:

Andersen had 4 breakaways last night against Van., he stopped them all, that's the difference between a good/great goaltender and Hutch. 

 

I think it's premature to give up on Hutch.

 

Yes but you're not expecting your backup goalie to be great, just good enough that he gives you a chance to win.  Great backup goalies become starting goalies.   

 

I didn't watch every game that Hutchison played but in the ones I did watch, the goals were virtually unstoppable. 

 

[hobie]

Hutch has been a reasonable NHL goalie and he still might be.

 

Keefe was in a presser and he indicated that TO was seriously looking for a goalie, some of the media hacks figured he was asking/insisting on one from his statement.

 

 https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/leafs-head-coach-keefe-demands-for-upgrade-in-between-the-pipes

[WordsOfWisdom]

On 12/12/2019 at 12:13 PM, hobie said:

Hutch has been a reasonable NHL goalie and he still might be.

 

Keefe was in a presser and he indicated that TO was seriously looking for a goalie, some of the media hacks figured he was asking/insisting on one from his statement.

 

 https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/leafs-head-coach-keefe-demands-for-upgrade-in-between-the-pipes

 

I love how this team fixes everything but the defence.  I almost think it's a running gag/joke. 

 

Here's a bit of trivia for you:  

 

Name the last time the Leafs had the best GA (fewest goals allowed) in the league.

[jammer2]

1 hour ago, WordsOfWisdom said:

 

I love how this team fixes everything but the defence.  I almost think it's a running gag/joke. 

 

Here's a bit of trivia for you:  

 

Name the last time the Leafs had the best GA (fewest goals allowed) in the league.

I'm only sure it was NOT during the Bester/Wregget years...LOL!

[hobie]

23 hours ago, WordsOfWisdom said:

 

I love how this team fixes everything but the defence.  I almost think it's a running gag/joke. 

 

Here's a bit of trivia for you:  

 

Name the last time the Leafs had the best GA (fewest goals allowed) in the league.

 

Name the last time the team with the best GA won the Cup?

[WordsOfWisdom]

3 hours ago, hobie said:

 

Name the last time the team with the best GA won the Cup?

 

According to the source I read:

 

Chicago in 2015.   

LA in 2014.

 

In fact, LA was 25th in GF but won the Cup being #1 in GA. The same cannot be said of a weak defensive team (looking at recent winners).  

 

[WordsOfWisdom]

Salary Cap Era Stanley Cup Champions (Playoff Data)

2006 Carolina Hurricanes

73 GF 2.92 G/G (23rd)

61 GA 2.44 GA/G (T-1st)

 

2007 Anaheim Ducks

58 GF 2.76 G/G (T-21st)

45 GA 2.14 GA/G (1st)

 

2008 Detroit Red Wings

62 GF 2.82 G/G (T-12)

42 GA 1.91 GA/G (1st)

 

2009 Pittsburgh Penguins

79 GF 3.29 G/G (4th)

61 GA 2.54 GA/G (4th)

 

2010 Chicago Blackhawks

78 GF 3.54 G/G (2nd)

62 GA 2.81 GA/G (16th)

 

2011 Boston Bruins

82 GF 3.28 G/G (1st)

61 GA 2.44 GA/G (8th)

 

2012 Los Angeles Kings

56 GF 2.94 G/G (8th)

28 GA 1.47 GA/G (1st)

 

2013 Chicago Blackhawks

63 GF 2.73 G/G (T-11th)

45 GA 1.95 GA/G (1st)

 

2014 Los Angeles Kings

87 GF 3.35 G/G (1st)

68 GA 2.61 GA/G (11th)

 

2015 Chicago Blackhawks

69 GF 3.00 G/G (6th)

60 GA 2.61 GA/G (13th)

 

2016 Pittsburgh Penguins

73 GF 3.04 G/G (3rd)

55 GA 2.29 GA/G (1st)

 

@hobie  Umm yeah.  You were saying?   SIX TIMES in the salary cap era (up to 2016) the winner had the fewest GA in the playoffs.

[hobie]

OK, maybe I needed to clarify my question, when was the last time that the regular season GA champion won the Cup?

 

I would think that would be LA, maybe, but being the best during the regular season doesn't automatically result in the Cup.

 

We can see from from your fine research that even middlin' or worse GA during the playoffs can still deliver the Cup.

 

TO's d might be significantly different next year, TO went from the worse team in the NHL to a playoff team in the space of 1 year so who knows what might happen in the next  1 or 2 years. Liljegrin, Sandin, Kivihalme, Rasanen or whoever might be TO's next superior top d pairing player or TO might trade/sign one.  

 

I think it's pretty exciting to realize that TO made the playoffs 3 years running with what many thought was a questionable d so the question now is can TO keep the forward core together while building a better d. I think that Winterpeg with it's GA standing, as of tonite, around 10th is showing that having a stellar d isn't the key to better d, it has to be a team effort.

 

The NYI have a middlin' d crew yet have the best GA in the NHL, what I want from TO is a better overall team effort, I'd think that man for man TO probably has a better d than the NYI. 

[WordsOfWisdom]

On 12/15/2019 at 12:37 AM, hobie said:

OK, maybe I needed to clarify my question, when was the last time that the regular season GA champion won the Cup?

 

I looked for those stats but didn't find them.  Didn't want to have to do any data mining on that one either.  (Trying to compile data to find what I'm looking for.)   Sorry.   

 

On 12/15/2019 at 12:37 AM, hobie said:

We can see from from your fine research that even middlin' or worse GA during the playoffs can still deliver the Cup.

 

It can, but it usually doesn't.  

 

On 12/15/2019 at 12:37 AM, hobie said:

The NYI have a middlin' d crew yet have the best GA in the NHL, what I want from TO is a better overall team effort, I'd think that man for man TO probably has a better d than the NYI. 

 

I did the same analysis on the NYI that I did for TOR with the "Minus" stat.  Here's what I got:    

 

 

				Scoring						Goals				Assists					Ice Time		Point Shares
#	Player	Age	Pos	GP	G	A	PTS	+/-	PIM	EV	PP	SH	GW	EV	PP	SH	S	S%	TOI	ATOI	OPS	DPS	PS	BLK	HIT	FOW	FOL	FO%		DEFENCE
1	Cal Clutterbuck	32	RW	32	3	4	7	7	20	2	0	1	0	3	0	1	34	8.8	449	14:01	-0.2	0.8	0.6	35	108	4	5	44.4		0
2	Adam Pelech	25	D	32	1	6	7	5	18	1	0	0	0	5	0	1	41	2.4	675	21:06	0	2	2	73	62	0	0			-2
3	Leo Komarov	33	C	16	0	4	4	2	2	0	0	0	0	3	0	1	12	0	192	11:59	-0.1	0.3	0.2	6	39	11	25	30.6		-2
4	Ross Johnston	25	LW	18	2	0	2	0	47	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	10	20	156	8:38	0	0.2	0.2	6	58	1	0	100		-2
5	Casey Cizikas	28	C	27	5	4	9	6	16	3	0	2	1	2	0	2	39	12.8	400	14:48	0.4	0.7	1	26	82	231	178	56.5		-3
6	Johnny Boychuk	36	D	31	1	6	7	3	10	0	1	0	0	6	0	0	46	2.2	551	17:46	0.1	1.5	1.7	60	69	0	0			-3
7	Matt Martin	30	LW	20	2	1	3	0	0	2	0	0	1	1	0	0	14	14.3	209	10:28	-0.1	0.2	0.2	5	98	1	2	33.3		-3
8	Michael Dal Colle	23	LW	26	2	2	4	0	10	2	0	0	0	2	0	0	17	11.8	304	11:41	-0.2	0.4	0.1	10	34	3	1	75		-4
9	Devon Toews	25	D	32	3	10	13	5	8	2	1	0	1	8	2	0	56	5.4	635	19:52	0.9	1.9	2.8	33	22	0	0			-5
10	Nick Leddy	28	D	24	2	9	11	3	8	1	1	0	0	8	1	0	29	6.9	474	19:44	0.8	1.3	2.1	30	24	0	0			-6
11	Scott Mayfield	27	D	32	4	6	10	4	33	4	0	0	1	4	0	2	53	7.5	627	19:35	0.7	1.8	2.5	52	54	0	0			-6
12	Anders Lee	29	C	32	9	9	18	6	33	8	1	0	2	6	3	0	73	12.3	556	17:22	1.3	0.9	2.2	20	63	33	45	42.3		-8
13	Jordan Eberle	29	RW	22	3	9	12	-1	4	2	1	0	0	5	4	0	45	6.7	358	16:16	0.6	0.4	0.9	13	8	0	3	0		-8
14	Mathew Barzal	22	C	32	13	14	27	12	18	10	3	0	2	11	3	0	67	19.4	621	19:24	2.5	1.2	3.6	21	5	106	147	41.9		-9
15	Anthony Beauvillier	22	LW	32	10	12	22	8	6	7	2	1	2	9	3	0	66	15.2	567	17:44	1.8	1	2.7	18	37	6	2	75		-9
16	Ryan Pulock	25	D	32	4	12	16	0	6	3	1	0	2	8	4	0	73	5.5	697	21:47	1.2	1.6	2.9	61	37	0	0			-11
17	Derick Brassard	32	C	32	8	10	18	1	8	6	2	0	1	7	3	0	54	14.8	477	14:54	1.4	0.6	2	15	55	96	86	52.7		-12
18	Josh Bailey	30	C	32	8	14	22	-1	8	6	1	1	2	9	5	0	40	20	563	17:35	1.6	0.6	2.2	22	12	63	59	51.6		-17
19	Brock Nelson	28	C	32	12	14	26	3	16	10	2	0	4	12	2	0	100	12	597	18:39	2.3	0.8	3.1	25	26	287	256	52.9		-19