One in which they won a Cup.
They've been almost consistently horrible since, with the exception of 2006. But is that the direct result of the Gretsky trade, or is that just horrific ownership and management? Is it just that the 80s Oilers were better players than executives?
Also... He's got 18 goals and 31 points and a plus 7. It's not like he's producing horrible numbers!
Yzerman scored less when the Redwings finally started winning cups.
And you're definitely right about the "puck luck" I think when it's this prolonged, it's more than luck, but it's not like he's slacking off out there.
Lots of good takes in this discussion. For me, trading G sends the wrong message to this group of players. I think dealing the captain, who is a "face of the franchise" player makes all other players question their future
You dont need to move him. He is still a dominant face off man, plays good two way hockey, and has great skill. Im sure hes lost a step, but what we are seeing is a player in declune more because of whats around him, and less because he has lost it
Used to be The cost is either 1/3 or 2/3 of the remaining salary, averaged out over twice as many years that were left on the contract. This is determined by the age of the player at the time of the buyout - if they are under 26, they get 1/3, if they are 26 or older they get 2/3.
to me this always seems like a long time to pay a player to not play for your team.
The guys you're talking abou
Fun facts: JVR is tied for third on the team in goals with Couturier, 1 goal behind Giroux and Hayes, two behind team leader Konecny. Voracek is third on the team in points.
It's more a reflection on the team as a whole not scoring than specific individuals.
Here's the buyout on JVR:
INITIAL BASE SALARY
INITIAL CAP HIT
Well... Decent with another Cup win thrown in there.
But yeah, they had a long period of sucking other than the late 90s, where they were competitive. What would help the Flyers is that their head of scouting doesn't live in Mexico, and (presumably) actually watches hockey games.
Also good: the Flyers scout the World Juniors. Edmonton didn't do that until 2007.