brelic Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 An article titled with a bad pun is up on Philly.com this morning talking about early negotiations for Voracek. I find it really curious that they choose to compare his production to Erat, and use his contract as a benchmark. Erat is 8 years older... the only connection is that he's a Czech. Hardly a valid criteria for contract negotiations.No, the curious part is that it consciously stays away from comparing Voracek to JVR, who were both taken in the same draft year. Voracek is further ahead of JVR in just about every aspect of his game, has put up better single-season and career numbers, yet they are comparing him to Erat?Guess they think Svoboda can't read stats and contract figures. JVR's new six-year contract pays him $4.25M per starting next season. Either the Flyers overpaid, or Voracek is worth more than $4.25M per.http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/20120119_Flyers__Czech_connection__Jagr___Voracek.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 An article titled with a bad pun is up on Philly.com this morning talking about early negotiations for Voracek.I find it really curious that they choose to compare his production to Erat, and use his contract as a benchmark. Erat is 8 years older... the only connection is that he's a Czech. Hardly a valid criteria for contract negotiations.No, the curious part is that it consciously stays away from comparing Voracek to JVR, who were both taken in the same draft year. Voracek is further ahead of JVR in just about every aspect of his game, has put up better single-season and career numbers, yet they are comparing him to Erat?Guess they think Svoboda can't read stats and contract figures. JVR's new six-year contract pays him $4.25M per starting next season. Either the Flyers overpaid, or Voracek is worth more than $4.25M per.http://www.philly.co...___Voracek.htmlVoracek is still an RFA this season, so they have his rights and can tender him for next season.The real question is long-term, and you are right any arbitrator isn't going to use Martin Erat. They will use the #2 pick from the same draft who is on the same team.In terms of total points, it's a bit of apples and oranges as Voracek was in the league almost immediately and was playing for Columbus, but on a PPG level, Voracek is .05 PPG ahead of JVR's career production.This season, Voracek is at .61 PPG and JVR is at .59.By any meaasure, however, if JVR is "worth" $4.25 on the open market then Voracek could be as well.Now, as for "salary" this isn't MY preferred way to look at contracts, but I think the Flyers will say "JVR's only making $2.5M next season" on their contract and that the length of the deal - like, say, Hartnell or Briere - is why it is "worth" $4.25M on the cap (with JVR's contract going UP over the length of the deal instead of down like Hartnell of Briere).I think they will try to do a 2-3 year deal somewhere in the $3.5M range and revisit when they have Briere's money off the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quigster Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Did Voracek go back to college for two years after being drafted?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Did Voracek go back to college for two years after being drafted??No, which is why he has played in 285 games with 161 points (.56 PPG) while JVR has 97 points in 190 games (.51 PPG). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Voracek is still an RFA this season, so they have his rights and can tender him for next season.The real question is long-term, and you are right any arbitrator isn't going to use Martin Erat. They will use the #2 pick from the same draft who is on the same team.In terms of total points, it's a bit of apples and oranges as Voracek was in the league almost immediately and was playing for Columbus, but on a PPG level, Voracek is .05 PPG ahead of JVR's career production.This season, Voracek is at .61 PPG and JVR is at .59.By any meaasure, however, if JVR is "worth" $4.25 on the open market then Voracek could be as well.Now, as for "salary" this isn't MY preferred way to look at contracts, but I think the Flyers will say "JVR's only making $2.5M next season" on their contract and that the length of the deal - like, say, Hartnell or Briere - is why it is "worth" $4.25M on the cap (with JVR's contract going UP over the length of the deal instead of down like Hartnell of Briere).I think they will try to do a 2-3 year deal somewhere in the $3.5M range and revisit when they have Briere's money off the cap.Excellent points, rad. I didn't look at the yearly salary, which does tell a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Did Voracek go back to college for two years after being drafted??You're not without a sense of humour Q-man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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