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Western Conference Finals: (1) Vegas Golden Knights vs. (3) Dallas Stars

(1) Vegas Golden Knights vs. (3) Dallas Stars  

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  1. 1. Who wins series?

    • Knights sweep
      0
    • Knights in 5
      2
    • Knights in 6
      5
    • Knights in 7
      2
    • Stars sweep
      0
    • Stars in 5 (Dallas wins series)
      0
    • Stars in 6
      3
    • Stars in 7
      2


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This will be the first playoff series between these two teams. Vegas won their Round Robin game between these two teams earlier in this year's playoffs 5–3. This will be Vegas' second appearance in the Conference Finals. Their only previous Conference Finals was in

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, which they won against the

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in five games. This will be Dallas' seventh Conference Finals appearance. They last went to the Conference Finals in

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, which they lost to the

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in six games. These teams split both games in this year's regular season series.

 

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I have to go with the Knights in 7 it should be a very physical series...will Bishop ever get back healthy?? Not sure.

 

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2 hours ago, jammer2 said:

Vegas in 5...a lot more disciplined approach.

 

Yup

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I think Vegas in 6.  I expect it to be an all out physical war.  I think Vegas has more guns than Dallas even though the Stars have Kiviranta!

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A strong delivery. Compared to Colorado, they have two first goalies, four lines and no significant injuries. Stars are 2-7 against them in history, 1-1-1 this season, including the RR game.

 

The logic would say Vegas in 6, but again we never know. 

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Going with Stars in 6.

I am very impressed with not only the overall team game that Dallas has played all year long (and used to shut down the Avs at times), but now it seems, the coaching staff is actually ALLOWING the big name offensive guys to play as such.

When you have the likes of Radulov, Heiskenen, Klingberg, Seguin, Benn, Gurianov, Hintz, and yes, even the twilight career of Corey Perry, and you have as much trouble scoring as Dallas did during the year, you have to think it is a coaching style thing, and NOT that the players suddenly forgot how to generate offense.

Well, that doesn't seem to be the case in these playoffs.

And while I like the make up of the Knights, a complete 4-line squad, more than adequate defensemen, good team toughness, and good goaltending, they really don't have that one guy or two that you can say "he can take over a game"....while Dallas certainly does.
See the list of Stars players I mentioned.

Overall playing as a unit is what Vegas does best while their very good, though not necessarily elite players do their thing, and cause problems for the opposition.
But I think Dallas has the personnel to either play a tough, defensive shell game, but also open things up and play wide open and have some real snipers to further that cause.

I will also give a slight edge in goaltending to the Stars.
Even with Ben Bishop down (for how long, who knows), Anton Khudobin is more than capable in a series, especially with what he has playing in front of him.

Lehner, since his resurgance in New York, has been outstanding too, but there are STILL times when he seems to lose a bit of focus....and if he does that with any of Dallas' offense bearing down, look out.

Stars showed they can score and skate with the Avs....no doubt they can do that against the Knights.
Vegas showed some weaknesses in dealing with the Canucks, a young not-quite-there team, by trying TOO simple an offensive attack that even the young Vancouver team was able, for the most part, to diffuse...... Vegas can't do that against a better defensive team and expect to win.

Dallas with the mild upset.

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On 9/5/2020 at 11:36 AM, jammer2 said:

Vegas in 5...a lot more disciplined approach.

That is exactly what i went, Bishop is not the same, they canot win with him on the sidelines. 

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@TropicalFruitGirl26

 

I went Knights in five, IMHO if the Avalanche had not lost Francouz, Grubauer, Johnson, Donskoi, Landeskog, it would have been a very different outcome. Radulov is playing like a man possessed but Benn looks out of sync, Bishop is injured. Vegas is the deeper, healthier team right now and i think they take this one rather handily. 

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Two defensemen on Dallas to watch (besides the obvious Klingberg and Heiskanen) are Jamie Oleksiak and Esa Lindell.
Those two will fly under the radar of most people, and in fact, they don't seem particularly noticeable on the ice, but both seem to do all the little things coaches want....quick clears, disrupting incoming rushes and find open offensive forwards.

 

And if EITHER gets left all alone, they'll take a SOG too.

Two very underappreciated, do-a-bit-of-everything type guys.

Oh, and both are hella checkers too. BOOM!

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Stars have fresher legs. Should be up a couple if Tyler didn't have hands of stone

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2 minutes ago, Modano9 said:

Stars have fresher legs. Should be up a couple if Tyler didn't have hands of stone

 

Welcome to the site, Modano9.

Yea, Vegas finding out quickly that Dallas can and will generate offense.... the Canucks might have lulled the Knights to sleep a bit with their lack of shots generated last game out... :)

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Dallas throwing the body around is a good sign. 

 

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Good period for Dallas.
They dictated most of the play, jumped out to the lead, had plenty of offensive zone pressure and for the most part kept Vegas out of their own zone.

Knights looked like they woke up a bit towards the end of the frame, so we'll see if that has any effect in the 2nd.

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I am taking the Knights in 6, I think they're better. Prorating last's night's Stars win into the equation I still think Vegas is better. 

The Stars had their legs going early but faded as the game went on, Vegas will wake up they are deeper and have better players 1-12 than Dallas. 

The series looks to be fun to watch. I think there are two very good semi-final matchups in the tournament. 

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On 9/6/2020 at 7:19 PM, TropicalFruitGirl26 said:

the coaching staff is actually ALLOWING the big name offensive guys to play as such

 

I'm wondering if it's not playing against the coach's plan 😉

 

Some games they played dramatically too defensive with not always a great outcome. Klingberg once stated that they wanted (as players) to play more in the offensive zone and they have the guys to do so (Hintz, Gurianov)

 

On 9/6/2020 at 7:36 PM, yave1964 said:

Bishop is not the same, they canot win with him on the sidelines.

 

Actually, Bishop started to fade a bit since February I'd say. Still a good goaltender but he took the bad habit to allow at least one very bad goal per game. I'd rather see him in the press-box than on the ice while being unfit to play.

 

23 hours ago, mojo1917 said:

The Stars had their legs going early but faded as the game went on, Vegas will wake up they are deeper and have better players 1-12 than Dallas.

 

True about Vegas's depth. In game #1 the Stars decided to go on a relentless physical approach that worked, and I think that surprised Vegas. Then logically Vegas came out strong in the third (they didn't have the choice) and Dallas switched to their typical conservative approach (maybe a bit too conservative, it's Vegas on the other side, not Ottawa).

 

That first game was a bit weird. It was completely wild with huge ups and downs, this one was like a pressureless round-robin game, with a bit more of intensity. I'm expecting to have a whole different game tonight.

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