Lonkkis Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 So, who do you think the Wild is going to sign as next no.1/mentor goalie? Free Agency is loaded this year so there's a good chance to get a decent one. Personally would like to see Khudobin wear the Wild sweater once more: He's prolly not looking for a longterm contract due to his age, he has loads of experience of being both backup and starting goalie, his numbers are good and a character guy. That is, if he doesn't resign with the Stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreaseAndAssist Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I heard Khudobin has already indicated he'd be interested in playing Vancouver. He said he likes the city and the way of life there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild.source Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 So...I've been thinking that we could pull Kahkonen up permanently. Any thoughts on this? He has done really well when being pulled up before, just stating my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynxrattle Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 55 minutes ago, wild.penalty said: So...I've been thinking that we could pull Kahkonen up permanently. Any thoughts on this? He has done really well when being pulled up before, just stating my opinion. That is what I have been thinking about as well. Stalock plays most of the games, kahkonen second most, and then Robson some to get an experience of what it is like in the NHL. They don't even need to do well this season. I highly doubt they will be competitive by next season. On the other hand, maybe Guerin wants the team to hang in there in most games, even if they would lose in the end, just to make sure the culture of the team changes. With a Fleury or Markstrom they would hang in there losing most games with only a goal or two. But hey that is what we have been doing, anyways. I just don't get it. Can someone shine some light on this need to bring in an experienced top goalie for a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonkkis Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) Insurance for the expansion draft, so Wild can expose Stalock. That's it really, can't really have two fresh rookies as your only goalies incase Stalock gets taken. Edited October 9, 2020 by Lonkkis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynxrattle Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Thanks. That makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonkkis Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) "A Wild source says the team will dive into free agency for a goalie. Hearing Cam Talbot is the guy Minnesota may be targeting. -Michael Russo" Interesting. I'd be okay with him, sure he had a down year in Edmonton but was pretty solid in Calgary. Edited October 9, 2020 by Lonkkis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey-78 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Signing Cam Talbot for three years, $11 million contract! Not sure why they did it. Okay, they have two inexperienced goalies but still... Talbot's been trending downwards for a while and this team most likely won't be a contender in the next three years. If they included NMC for all those years, this is definitively a facepalm move. Unless Talbot plays lights out, for three years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildstars95 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 another sieve just great... terrible choice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey-78 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, wildstars95 said: another sieve just great... terrible choice Exactly. As soon as they got rid of a washed-up veteran goalie with a year in his contract, they go and acquire another one. For THREE years. SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonkkis Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Hockey-78 said: Signing Cam Talbot for three years, $11 million contract! Not sure why they did it. Okay, they have two inexperienced goalies but still... Talbot's been trending downwards for a while and this team most likely won't be a contender in the next three years. If they included NMC for all those years, this is definitively a facepalm move. Unless Talbot plays lights out, for three years... Wouldn't call him terrible because of his two last Edmonton years, nobody can get good numbers behind that defense, just ask Dubnyk. 91,9% SV and a 2.63 GAA in 26 regular games last season with Calgary, along with 92.4% SV, 2.42 GAA in 10 playoff games. Is a great signing? Eh, one year too much perhaps. But the cap hit isn't too terrible and if he keeps up his Calgary-form rather than his Edmonton 08-09 form, it's good enough. He's going to be exposed in the expansion draft anyway. Kahkonen gets protected. Edited October 9, 2020 by Lonkkis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Ouch... he's been fading the last two years and has been terrible in the playoffs. Maybe thr Wild expect him to go in Dubnyk 2.0 mode... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey-78 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lonkkis said: Wouldn't call him terrible because of his two last Edmonton years, nobody can get good numbers behind that defense, just ask Dubnyk. 91,9% SV and a 2.63 GAA in 26 regular games last season with Calgary, along with 92.4% SV, 2.42 GAA in 10 playoff games. It's senseless to sign a guy who was replaced by a rookie goaltender from his clear cut #1 goalie position in Edm and now when you have a red hot, cheap goalie prospect, you throw another obstacle based on 36(!) friggin games. And commit to $11 mil. while doing so... Signing Holtby for that sum and term would've made somewhat more sense. But the Vezina trophy winner settled for less just so he could get to Vancouver. Admirable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Villette/Lavaux said: Ouch... he's been fading the last two years and has been terrible in the playoffs. Maybe thr Wild expect him to go in Dubnyk 2.0 mode... Honestly, Talbot would just be a "body" in net to help cover time while they decide how much time they really want to give Kahkonen. If he plays like he did as a backup in New York or his first year in Edmonton, then great, but I said this elsewhere, I won't be holding my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonkkis Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hockey-78 said: It's senseless to sign a guy who was replaced by a rookie goaltender from his clear cut #1 goalie position in Edm and now when you have a red hot, cheap goalie prospect, you throw another obstacle based on 36(!) friggin games. And commit to $11 mil. while doing so... Signing Holtby for that sum and term would've made somewhat more sense. But the Vezina trophy winner settled for less just so he could get to Vancouver. Admirable! Red hot goalie prospect with only 5 NHL games under his belt. Do we really want another Kuemper-situation? And signing Holtby probably wasn't possible, willing to bet he wants to be a no.1 goalie, not be a body to fill the net while Kahkonen keeps developing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey-78 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Lonkkis said: Red hot goalie prospect with only 5 NHL games under his belt. Do we really want another Kuemper-situation? And signing Holtby probably wasn't possible, willing to bet he wants to be a no.1 goalie, not be a body to fill the net while Kahkonen keeps developing. Um, so a prospect can't be hot without NHL games? That's why they are prospects! When you get voted as the best goalie in the AHL, you're pretty darn good. The Capitals decided to make Samsonov their #1 goalie and throw Vezina winner Holtby out... Samsonov is YOUNGER than Kahkonen and has played LESS games than Kahkonen in NA. And as their back-up the Capitals acquired Lundqvist for #1.5 million. This comparison alone makes the Wild's move look like rubbish. Yeah, Holtby wants to win so why come to Minnesota? Besides, he's Canadian. Um, so the Wild wants to avoid another Kuemper "situation" by signing an old back-up goalie to continue where Dubnyk left off? To play so bad you get traded. Buddy, you're hanging on to very slippery straws... The most interesting fact would be to know did Talbot get NMC and for how long? Edited October 9, 2020 by Hockey-78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonkkis Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hockey-78 said: Um, so a prospect can't be hot without NHL games? That's why they are prospects! When you get voted as the best goalie in the AHL, you're pretty darn good. The Capitals decided to make Samsonov their #1 goalie and throw Vezina winner Holtby out... Samsonov is YOUNGER than Kahkonen and has played LESS games than Kahkonen in NA. And as their back-up the Capitals acquired Lundqvist for #1.5 million. This comparison alone makes the Wild's move look like rubbish. Yeah, Holtby wants to win so why come to Minnesota? Besides, he's Canadian. Um, so the Wild wants to avoid another Kuemper "situation" by signing an old back-up goalie to continue where Dubnyk left off? To play so bad you get traded. Buddy, you're hanging on to very slippery straws... The most interesting fact would be to know did Talbot get NMC and for how long? No, Talbot didn't get an NMC of any kind. That's why I mentioned earlier that he is going to get exposed in the expansion draft. And WSH got rid of Holtby because he was becoming like Dubnyk: letting in goals easy goals that he should have taken etc. And I'm sorry, being voted as the AHL goalie of the year does not guarantee that he can handle NHL. Samsonov already has almost 30 NHL games of experience plus 3 years of KHL experience. Which made it easier for WSH to go with Samsonov and sign Lundqvist as backup. Ideally the Wild should go with Talbot/Kahkonen tandem, so Kahkonen gets like 25-30 games and takes over as number 1 the following season. By then Kaprizov, Fiala and perhaps Rossi and of course rest of the team have developed a good relationship in the locker room and start showing signs of becoming contenders. I'll say this much. Talbot wasn't signed to be our no.1 goalie, he was signed as a bridge goalie so to speak. Because he's a bit better than Stalock and as I mentioned elsewhere, he's an insurance incase Seattle takes one of our unprotected goalies. Edited October 9, 2020 by Lonkkis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarkill Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Meh I guess I hae a bit of a different view from most that hate this move... I can deal with it.. to me this tells me they are invested in Kahkonen or Jones and are giving them time. The Wild gave nothing up but a contract for a stop-gap for a few years imo is far better than giving up assets to trade for a guy like Fleury. Would you guys really rather see that they signed a high money/long term guy and completely blocked out the young guys while tying up even more money during a rebuild and right before the expansion? This is a reasonable deal for a 33 year old who led the league in basically every goalie category a few years back. Do I expect him to be an all-star? no. But with our defense core I do expect him to play well enough that he'll be better than Dubnyk was. It looks like Billy boy is sure setting himself up nicely for the expansion draft so far. Right now they don't have to risk losing anyone they don't want/need to.. and it's looking like he's grabbing players that they can expose at the expansion draft, let walk after the season if they don't work out or possibly unload at the deadline to a desperate contender for assets. Like.. they don't even HAVE To move Dumba.. they can keep him or wait till their asking price is met. no pressure and no teams taking advantage of Bill having to move him or risk losing him in expansion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonkkis Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gnarkill said: Meh I guess I hae a bit of a different view from most that hate this move... I can deal with it.. to me this tells me they are invested in Kahkonen or Jones and are giving them time. The Wild gave nothing up but a contract for a stop-gap for a few years imo is far better than giving up assets to trade for a guy like Fleury. Would you guys really rather see that they signed a high money/long term guy and completely blocked out the young guys while tying up even more money during a rebuild and right before the expansion? This is a reasonable deal for a 33 year old who led the league in basically every goalie category a few years back. Do I expect him to be an all-star? no. But with our defense core I do expect him to play well enough that he'll be better than Dubnyk was. It looks like Billy boy is sure setting himself up nicely for the expansion draft so far. Right now they don't have to risk losing anyone they don't want/need to.. and it's looking like he's grabbing players that they can expose at the expansion draft, let walk after the season if they don't work out or possibly unload at the deadline to a desperate contender for assets. Like.. they don't even HAVE To move Dumba.. they can keep him or wait till their asking price is met. no pressure and no teams taking advantage of Bill having to move him or risk losing him in expansion. Pretty much how I personally feel about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyOday Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 He will be the top goalie in the NHL next year with our Defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey-78 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 50 minutes ago, TonyOday said: He will be the top goalie in the NHL next year with our Defense Good thing you added that smiley... Yeah, it seems the Wild Twitter is pretty divided with this one too. Like always, everyone is right on the money with their opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyShelf Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Not a fan of this 3 year contract. Frankly, it sucks from my perspective. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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