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2 hours ago, mojo1917 said:

this is correct for how I was interpreting this idea.

The coaches would be the senior leaders.

I wasn't dragging Dave Scott into the flow chart. 

So, during that time, who would you have built around or tried to build around ?

Name 4 Flyers all-stars who were not them during that stretch, Konecny, Timnonen, and... who else am I missing.

 

I can agree, G was never a captain prior to the NHL, was too young, shouldn't have been thrust upon the fanbase as the replacement for Dave Poulin and all the great Flyers captains. 

The team was terrible for most of the VeeGees® radoran  time. 

I don't think the reason the team was bad was because G wasn't leading, it was because the team was suk. 

If he were worse in all facets of the game and responsibilities,  it may have worked out better for the team, higher picks less playoffs, more cracks at that sweet sweet lottery luck.

 

Like I said, I'm over it, trade him- get a 2022 1st round pick and Alex Newhook.

Shed salary and go free-agent shopping/trading in the offseason.

 

 

 

 

 

No way you are getting anything close to that for him, or that matter current f

Flyer with the exception of Carter Hart.

Too much wishful thinking on here not rooted in reality. IMO.

 

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#hotgoalie   No goalie has ever controlled 60 minutes of a game...  

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3 minutes ago, Fizz said:

No way you are getting anything close to that for him, or that matter current f

Flyer with the exception of Carter Hart.

Too much wishful thinking on here not rooted in reality. IMO.

 

Okay thanks for the input.

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1 minute ago, mojo1917 said:

Okay thanks for the input.

What my opinion doesn't count?

Do I need to bow to your hockey wisdom?

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1 hour ago, Fizz said:

What my opinion doesn't count?

Do I need to bow to your hockey wisdom?

No you do not.

Do and think whatever you like.

 

However, my indifference toward your opinion on this particular subject cannot be overstated. 

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3 hours ago, CoachX said:

call me silly, but it sounded a lot like an excuse

 

Those are not mutually exclusive.

 

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3 hours ago, CoachX said:

call me silly, but it sounded a lot like an excuse

 

Silly.

 

Now what?

 

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1 minute ago, radoran said:

 

#hotgoalie

 

No goalie have ever controlled 60 minutes of a game...

 

:5a6425fa25331_VikingSkoool:

I'm not making excuses for them. Just stating a fact.

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54 minutes ago, FD19372 said:

The Flyers temporarily leap the Rangers

 

 

Think about what you just typed.............yeah.

 

Let's rest our brains.

 

Mine are scrambled to witness what we witness every night.

 

Goodnight friend.

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1 minute ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

 

Think about what you just typed.............yeah.

 

Let's rest our brains.

 

Mine are scrambled to witness what we witness every night.

 

Goodnight friend.

I get it. It's so sad, man...really. Goodnight friend.

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10 minutes ago, FD19372 said:

I'm not making excuses for them. Just stating a fact.

 

Did not mean to imply you were. Apologies if you inferred.

 

More thinking of the media/locker room justification of why they lost.

 

Again.

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Just now, radoran said:

 

Did not mean to imply you were. Apologies if you inferred.

 

More thinking of the media/locker room justification of why they lost.

 

Again.

NP. I hear ya. It's lose, no one calls anyone out, no one gets pissed off. Everything's fine. Rinse, repeat. Same ol' BS.

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45 minutes ago, radoran said:

 

#hotgoalie

 

No goalie have ever controlled 60 minutes of a game...

 

:5a6425fa25331_VikingSkoool:

I see what you did there.

 

Cracked me the hell up, too.

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17 minutes ago, ruxpin said:

I see what you did there.

 

Cracked me the hell up, too.

 

If you think "definitely a playoff team" has been ridden into the ground...

 

Just wait.

 

:5a6425fa25331_VikingSkoool:

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3 hours ago, mojo1917 said:

No you do not.

Do and think whatever you like.

 

However, my indifference toward your opinion on this particular subject cannot be overstated. 

Mattered enough that you commented on my post.

Ok I'll play your game, what player on the Flyers is worth a first rounder and a top notch prospect?

Aside from Hart, Provorov and Couturier and you aren't trading any of those three. 

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3 minutes ago, elmatus said:

They need a true franchise-defining player or two to build around.

I think they have one. He's Carter Hart. Knowing this team's history with goalies, they'd better pray he is. Now, no one else on this roster is, so...they have to find one. Why am I not confident?

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4 minutes ago, Fizz said:

Mattered enough that you commented on my post.

Ok I'll play your game, what player on the Flyers is worth a first rounder and a top notch prospect?

Aside from Hart, Provorov and Couturier and you aren't trading any of those three. 

 

I do think Giroux is worth that. He's a proven and consistent playmaking point producer who would make virtually any team's top six. I have no doubt there are teams who see their window being open right now who would absolutely love to get their hands on a guy like him.

 

But yeah, the others that really need trading right now won't fetch that kind of return.

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1 minute ago, FD19372 said:

I think they have one. He's Carter Hart. Knowing this team's history with goalies, they'd better pray he is. Now, no one else on this roster is, so...they have to find one. Why am I not confident?

 

Unless Hart starts churning out hat tricks, that just won't be enough.

 

Besides, what we've seen from Hart so far is that he can be good and he can be bad. I certainly hope he's that level of goalie, and obviously he still has plenty of years to prove it, but we need to see more from him before making that kind of lofty claim I think.

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28 minutes ago, elmatus said:

 

I do think Giroux is worth that. He's a proven and consistent playmaking point producer who would make virtually any team's top six. I have no doubt there are teams who see their window being open right now who would absolutely love to get their hands on a guy like him.

 

But yeah, the others that really need trading right now won't fetch that kind of return.

Even with Giroux do you think as a rental he is worth that much? He is a UFA after this season has a N/T clause.

I just don't see it but ya never know I guess stranger things have happened.

You know as long as the Leafs don't win the cup I'm ok. lol

Cheers

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7 hours ago, Fizz said:

Mattered enough that you commented on my post.

Ok I'll play your game, what player on the Flyers is worth a first rounder and a top notch prospect?

Aside from Hart, Provorov and Couturier and you aren't trading any of those three. 

Here we go again :bonkingheadonwall:

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