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    Voracek signs 4 years at 4.25 per....

    in Philadelphia Flyers

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    @orange_crush

    Fair enough. But from a contract standpoint, offering Weber 110mm over 14 years = unmovable if Weber did not pan out (Pronger and Bryzgalov seem to come to mind)

    Jake Voracek at 4 years 4.25 / year is very movable (JvR seems to come to mind).

    Not from a production point rather a contract point, this deal is fair.

    I guess since Leino makes 4.5 mill it could be called fair..

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    Voracek signs 4 years at 4.25 per....

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    @orange_crush

    16g and 37a for Briere in 2012

    18g and 31a for Voracek in 2012

    The money is not that bad OC, look at comparable cap hits for each player. http://www.capgeek.c...589&season=2012

    Giroux signed that contract before the Flyers 100% knew what they had. Besides Giroux's contract is back loaded, he'll get paid 5mm next year on the last year of his contract and I am sure he'll get a huge raise after that.

    Briere had an off year last year..you can't honestly tell me you think Jake is a better goal scorer than Danny boy...

    Couturier's potential...

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    I'm just curious as to what you guys are expecting out of Couturier next season. Are we looking at a huge increase in production, say 25 goals 35 assists? Or are we looking at steady increases in production for the next 4 or 5 years until he has it figured out? I guess there are no wrong answers as no one really knows how much his game will increase, just would like to know what fellow flyers fans think are realistic numbers from this kid...

    I'm expecting 15-20 goals and 25-35 assists.

    Coots is more of a shutdown center man than a goal scorer..expect him to be matched up against every teams top line...he does have scoring ability but that won't be his role here..

    With or Without you.......

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    See the stone set in your eyes

    See the thorn twist in your side

    I wait for you

    Sleight of hand and twist of fate

    On a bed of nails she makes me wait

    And I wait without you

    With or without you

    With or without you

    Through the storm we reach the shore

    You give it all but I want more

    And I'm waiting for you

    With or without you

    With or without you

    I can't live

    With or without you

    And you give yourself away

    And you give yourself away

    And you give

    And you give

    And you give yourself away

    My hands are tied

    My body bruised, she's got me with

    Nothing to win and

    Nothing left to lose

    And you give yourself away

    And you give yourself away

    And you give

    And you give

    And you give yourself away

    With or without you

    With or without you

    I can't live

    With or without you

    With or without you

    With or without you

    I can't live

    With or without you

    Thoughts on Pursuing PK Subban

    in Philadelphia Flyers

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    Now that the Weber deal has come and gone curious as to the thoughts on possibly signing PK Subban to an offer sheet.

    He is a total PITA to play against, which is high praise for anyone who has played the game. He is a right handed shot who can score (14 goals in 2010-2011 season), plays physical and takes the body.

    Not to mention being only 23 years old and will improve over time.

    I think he is exactly what the team could use without paying Weber money. They get a right hand shot from the point, a physical guy and a guy who gets under the skin of the opponent. He is young and would fit in nicely with the young core we have now.

    Right now his cap hit is about 875 - 900K. Do the Canadians match an offer of a bonus and maybe 5 mil over 5 years? If the one dimensional turnover machine Carle is worth that much then surely Subban is.

    Do you further risk alienating other GM's around the league but doing another offer sheet?

    What are some other posters thoughts?

    I think Subban would fit in nicely in Philly.. I would take him or Carlson anyday..

    Team D Without Weber

    in Philadelphia Flyers

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    @ OC and MD... when you look at this Team on paper compared to last year you have to think they are worse off than last year. If not, you are completely drinking the O&B KoolAid. That does not mean they will be but this defense does not inspire confidence. Bryz - well, enough said! Whi the hell knows... Carle leaving makes it worse and I am a hater of that turnover machine but he could eat minutes. Timmo needs less WAY less minutes to make it to the end of the season and playoffs with the hopes of having any gas in the tank.

    Let's hope Luke Schenn can finally turn around his play... yes, he can hit but he was not very good the last two years. Here's hoping to benefit from a change of scenery!

    I'm hopeful about Schenn but at best he's going to be a 5/6 dman..he's really nothing special...

    Team D Without Weber

    in Philadelphia Flyers

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    I have to agree... The team lost Jagr, JVR, and Carle in exchange for Fedotenko and Luke Schenn.

    So far it's just not looking good at all, and the worst part is that there is not much the Fleyrs can do to improve. They don't have many pieces to trade to improve via a trade, and there is just nobody worth getting excited about in the free agency. I am afraid the team we see now is pretty much teh team that will start the 2012-2013 season (assuming there *is* a season).

    and I also we traded Bob and got Leighton which is another downgrade..imo

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    Team D Without Weber

    in Philadelphia Flyers

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    I am pretty much in the same boat. I am not sure what to expect out of this group. There are so many questions... How much Timonen has left in the tank? What shape is Meszaros in when he comes, considering he hasn't played since when.... February? Is MAB ready to step in and start playing a big role? Where the offense will come from? WHat to expect out of Luke Schenn?

    The Flyers have been absolutely KILLED and OWNED by the Rangers last season. And now that the got Nash, I just don't see how the Flyers can even compete with them, to tell you the truth.

    totally agree Maddog..the Rags totally owned us and they would have gone further in the playoffs if they had goal scoring..now that they have Nash they are legit cup contenders..

    our team actually got worse

    Mark my words...

    in Philadelphia Flyers

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    @OccamsRazor Ya know OR, I can still remember the press conference announcing the signings of the "twin towers" Hatcher and Rathje. Clarke said it was needed to keep the huge centers in the East in check. Something felt very wrong that day....LOL!

    you know if Rathje would have stayed healthy they were 2 good signings..imo..

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