Hexy27

I'd almost be inclined to sign Gagne before Penner. Gagne is probably cheaper and at least can back check every now and again.

Any news on Gagne? Last I heard he was willing to take a pay cut to stay in town. I'd like to see him back next season maybe a 1 or 2 years deal at $2M.

I'd rather keep Coots in-house and trade someone like Read. Read has more offensive upside than Coots (right now) and is still young enough to make him a good value. I want to hold on to players like Coots because they take time to develop and I think making trades for quick fixes are what got the Flyers into the situation they are in right now.

Let's say they get Nurse. Is the team that much better right away? I don't see that one move doing much for us. You also end up losing offense in the form of Read and/or Coots and draft picks. I'd rather buyout Briere (Bryz also) and give Coots some time on a better line. Bring up McGinn and let the young guys play next year. It takes time to build a cup winning team and I think it is possible to accomplish this if these players are given the time to develop here (rather than somewhere else).

I've always had an interest in Teddy Nolan. I was amazed with what he did with the Islanders a few years back. I think he deserves another shot at a head coaching gig in the NHL. I don't know if he fits what the Flyers are looking for but he might bring a different perspective to these players.

@ruxpin

I posted something like this a couple of months back and had similar issues in trying to think of a good replacement. Burke was a name that popped up several times in that thread. I don't know who else to consider but it seems there are few options right now.

This sounds like the perfect idiot Flyers move.

I think I more gun-shy of moves like this than any other off season.

@doom88

I really don't see the Bob trade as being better than the Kessel deal in any way. In fact if Bob keeps up this level of play it will go down as worse.

@brelic

Fair enough. Why add to it?

@doom88

I was one of those disagreeing on throwing Bob an offer sheet in that other thread. I echo alot of the opinions against it by others in this thread. The Flyers already look pretty foolish with the moves they have made over the last couple of years. This would just add to the embarrassment.

I do believe such things have a negative effect on your franchise long term. We would often refer to the Leafs as the Laughs. I don't want to see the Flyers thought of in that light.

I'm a big fan of wellwood. Don't understand why he wan't a regular for the flyers. he is PERFECT for lavy's system. Incredible speed, one of the better forecheckers I've seen.

I never understood why we haven't seen more of him under Lavy. He seems to fit the mold of what Lavy is looking for. I hope he overcomes this injury and we see him skating again.

I just heard on the radio that Voracek was in a car accident in the Czech Republic. He is apparently ok but his Ferrari did not fare as well.

http://www.crossingbroad.com/2013/05/jakub-voracek-was-reportedly-in-a-bad-car-accident-but-is-ok.html

I want no part on Thomas. He's almost 40 and has taken a year off. What scares me is that signing him would be the stereotypical Flyers off season move.

And Bob Mckenzie has Nurse rated at tied for 10th now. Is there a chance we get him?

I think another question is if he IS there at 9 or 10 is it worth it for the Flyers to trade up to get him? If so then what would such a trade look like?

Ignoring the fact we had the player, why not? RFA Vezina winner.

I don't care if other teams are laughing as long as the Flyers beat them. I mean, the Flyers already have Bryz signed to an abomination of a contract, so I highly doubt embarassment is a factor anyway.

I agree in that as long as the Flyers are winning I could care less what other teams think. I do think these "embarrassments" add up over time in the minds of players and may make it difficult to lure talent to the team.

I don't think they will try another offer sheet so soon after what happened with Weber. Even if they did I am sure Columbus would match. I think they know what they have in Bob and I doubt they will give up on him as easily as the Flyers did.

Actually, would it be crazy to buyout Bryz and offer sheet Bob? He's RFA (and IN DIVISION NEXT SEASON). Markstrom, Bernier, and Enroth are RFAs as well.

http://stats.nhlnumb...rder=&year=2014

There are several alright UFA choices for backup as well.

I think doing that would solidfy this team as the laughing stock of the league. I would love to see Bob in net for the Flyers but unfortunately that ship has sailed.

I'm sure he'll retire in a few years and we will finally get over the hump.

Looking forward to it!

@pensuck

He's on record as saying that money isn't an issue. The article suggests a salary of $2M. I think that would be suitable. Let's see how sincere he is about staying.

@fan4ever

I don't know if it was LA not giving him a chance or that lump he had in his neck. I've read on several sites that Gagne credits his improved play to having (what ever it was) removed from his neck. I think he is healthy for the first time in many years.

http://www.philly.co...e_can_stay.html

I think Gagne has been consistent this season and I'd like to see him stay. I know the cap is going down next year so at the end of the day it might be a numbers game. At least he is willing to come back for less. What do you guys think?

in true Homer style the following is what would happen. Homer says no to the Yotes' offer and drafts......wait for it.....Sean Monahan...ignoring Mackinnon and Nurse, and at the same time every Flyers fan's heads will explode. Homer will then trade Coots, Laughton, our 1st round next year and a 2nd round pick (of course) for Yandle and a 3rd rounder. Bryz get's bought out along with Briere, but Mason signs a 6 year NMC deal.....oh yeah, and Leighton will back him up.

This may be the scariest post I have read on this site because it reads like a classic Flyers move.

Btw am I the only one who does not want to trade Couts? NHL proven first round draft picks don't grow on trees. He's only 20 and isn't even done growing yet. I think he is going to be a heck of a player and we should hold onto him. I think the best move is to build on this youth and wait. We aren't winning a cup any time soon so why mortgage away the future? Give this group 2-3 seasons together and build around them.

what are you talking about? you "hope that Mason is not the answer but there's more value in Mason"???????

what does that even mean?

the bottom line is: who gives us the best chance to succeed and win a Cup. Mason is Terrible, he might be the worst goalie in the league. Bryz is not perfect but he is is much better than Mason and if he actually was able to take a game or two off, his stats and play would be much better. I don't care who you are, you can't be expected to play EVERY game and not get worn down.

Who has more value?

Bryz with his .899 at $5.6M cap hit or

Mason with his .899 at $2.9M cap hit

For the same output I would rather pay less. Thus there is more value in Mason at the moment. Bryz is marginally better than Mason and he is twice as expensive. I see Mason as a backup but even in that role he is more valuable than our current starter.

I never said either would win us a cup. The organization traded away a candidate franchise goal tender to Columbus last summer. Frankly those don't grow on trees.

I hope Mason is not the answer (even in the short term) but I'll take Mason at a lower cap hit than Bryz. There's more value (if you can call it that) in Mason than there is in Bryz at this point.

@OH1FlyersFan

I'm ok with another down year or two if that means rebuilding the team for the long haul. I think alot of fans would be if the organization showed a willingness to build a contender rather than trying to buy one.

I don't believe our situation looks bleak on paper. With the right moves this team can be turned around. The issue is that as an organization the Flyers have shown no patience. The team trades away prospects and picks in an effort to "win now". If they were to sit back and allow these players to stick together and learn from their ups and downs the Flyers would be a better team. I don't have faith in the GM or (more precisely) the owner to be patient.

How many prospects do they have to trade away before they realize this? Cooter might not be a Crosby or a Malkin but he IS a young and proven NHL talent with lots of potential. There are alot of draft busts around the league and Coots definitely is not one of them. I'd rather see the team keep a player like that and foster him in our organization that trade him away for a quick fix.

I don't get it either. I guess GMs just get caught up in outdoing one another and then you see deals like this.