LegionOfDoom

I don't know if any out there has been in situations that in working with groups procleaves: It is a burden and a drench to the spirit when you have people that don't show up to do their part of the team/group dynamic. I've dealt with both sides of that team. The point is that the parts to this 5 headed monster is that each head will "show up" to do their part as a group. It won't be perfect, but every one has an accountability to each other and they don't want to fail the group, the fans, the city and the Legacy that is....being a Flyer.

One thing that has been cleared though, which is crazy but true: The two sides of the coin(Hockey Ops vs Biz Ops) had employees that actually rooted for the other side to fail! What kind of horse dewormer is that!?

That was a greedy move that we all payed for....

The only one I can concede about that is Carbomb and his fight with a Pens player we eventually nabbed, the following year.......ssssssshhhhhh!

I think Torts will mouth his ass out of a job, if anything.

Your Hits....are number one.... Your Checks....are number one.. Your Hits....are number one.... Your Checks....are number one.. Your Hits....are

Don't be shhcared....snarf....snarf...

Y'all finish

Maybe if we draft Will Smith, our opponents will put Respect in their mouth, when they talk about the Flyers.

Spoken like a guy that got hooked in the nads a few times. Briere calculated that hook, spear, and crosscheck. I don't do that, I'll just knock their ass down in front of the scene, penalty or none. If it's a game time moment, your marked on the next play. I'll say it again, as unpopular as it is and was, Rinaldo made the Flyers opponents pay the fiddler.

On a side note*: Optically Torts was a Fletcher hire(rumored to be begrudged), so if one of the 5 heads gets lopped off, it could be the first to be cannibalized. *The Folks Back Home Won't Believe this: Memoirs of a concerned Power Fit Structure.

I also do worry about this move but sometimes in overenthusiasm, this marks a move a, "I'm going to show that we are aggressive." but to constrict this thought, Briere, is, a calculating guy, team that up with Keith's thriftiness with his assets, might not end up pulling that trigger. This year, Danny said all bets are on the table! I will see this draft with a little more intrigue than years gone by. It's almost like the draft lottery, hoping for the better position and not perturbation of our assets(our draft pick getting worse).

I guess he got the memo....He Got a Job!

Second round picks will come back into style.

We will be a more frugal trade partner from here on out.

There is allot to digest, with all that has transpired in these past few days, and the fanbase needs to step back and not focus soo much on what is in front of their nose' but look at the breathscape of how this organization will circulate from here on out.

The one thing I can also for a certain,say is this, that the era of ill will towards the Flyers of past GM'smanship is gone, we were handed a new sleight with the league and there will be an openness to hearing out our leadership in a trifecta of "trades, targets and transplanting" of players that need a new start somewhere else.

I heard some rumors, unofficially from some sources. How I think they might do it, though, is by packaging players and our 1st round pick and extra picks to maybe move up two spots, though the odds are stacked against them(A 3 team deal). This is were Jones relationship/connections will come to the foray. That sneaky devil....you.

One thing I can say, that I can't say with Fletcher is.... Danny(with a little Mr. Jones) might be able to wiggle out a better draft pick position(move up) this upcoming draft then where we are at 7th and/or get back a 2nd round pick in this years draft.

I talked about the Five Headed Monster earlier and what I thought it entails and Pilldoc put the proof in the pudding in writing/posting what the Flyers decision to go the way they did. This is a new era of "5 years away"

He wasn't great in Buffalo and all the years of misappropriation, can't be fixed in one season. I still hold out hope that he will not grenade pucks out and have seen a vast improvement to his game(grant it, I didn't watch all the games he played to make a peer review case for him) but I have heard others from other walks of lines mention also what I saw and that is a step forward in a positive step. Unfortunately at the cost of his physicality but I hold out that once, he can distinguish when to lay a hard hit and when to make the safer defensive play and not take yourself out of your position, will come, with having a defensive partner that can complement his style. We payed a premium for him and would focus on the fact that we can't just throw away something for nothing, he proved to be serviceable this year with improvements and with a year under Torts already, I am interested how he enters training camp next season with the schematics already drawn up in place to move forward in improving his game. If he's grenade-ing pucks out the halfwalls and causing delay of games, then maybe they Robert Hagg his ass back to oz.

I think Ristolainen unfortunately brings the fans "perceived baggage" of what is perceived as "a first round pick, Ghost and Salary" : had he of been Sam Morin as a Flyers pick that is/was developing from our farm, people would be giving him his flowers at the end of the season for his vast improvement from Buffalo. He was a premium, that's for sure and was a Sabre signing and a Fletcher Fleece. The drapes don't match the carpet. If you divorce the two, then you can see that under the right tutelage Risto will be better at draping the defensive coverage and carpet out a pass to a exiting forward to begin a rush going the other way.

The Five headed Beast was put there in place, so that there will not be an old guard as Kings or Wisemen, but now more so as just PR, a figurative figure head of past lore, similar to what England has going on. They should have no teeth:

Ability and Swallow shouldn't come to a suprise from the organization's fanbase, when for the past several years, the same spew has been chopped up and restructured from Monday thru Friday. This new lettuce is different from all the word salad I hear year in and year out from a fan base that over reacts to any obsessive compulsive change they deem unfit for their daily latte' lifestyle. "Of all the candidates interviewed" is half the problem(was done by another firm to your un-liking), which equates to the same sum of the parts, that equals = no solution. You have no solution, therefore you validate it with no construction to your criticism. Name your magical GM that would take take this position in the Flyers organization, who is this GM? I wasn't on board with hiring Fonzy, but he has done what other coaches haven't been able to do so far as much as he has done. Accountability and Professionalism as an athlete in the game. He did cost us a better 1st round pick, but it was at the expense of building a better base product. I recant my disposition of the hire and still grip to the feelings of caution. he's showed his product for the year, and it's not wanting. Your extreme excitement should be tempered with the fact that we have two new hires that are experienced in what the vision of the end goal is for the city and what we stand for. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are to examples of Wall Flowers, with only one headlight at the start of their careers, that carried the vision of what we have today. Bottom line is this not an Exacta, nor how some believe a Trifecta, not even a Superfecta but it will be a 5 headed monster that will parlay in unison what the Philadelphia Flyers organization will run as, and it seems that each moving part will make it their job to improve on the sum of all the moving parts, to bring back the storied history of this once proud organization and to put some respect back in the name. We will see. What is known is that each part of this machine is a fan, is a patron and is a collaborator to getting this mission accomplished. There will most likely be late nights, mishaps and ballyhoos....that's the way the bees bumble.....

After reading all the post and concerns of everyone here and understanding their concerns, the main points I take out of this hire is, first of all the last two candidates for the job was Keith Jones and Eddie Olczyk. I would of been very skeptical and upset if they would of hired EO as the President, he will always have ties to Pittsburgh and root for them, it shows' in his commentary and demeanor. Let's look at the other candidates that interviewed/talk to: 1. Scott Mellanby: Here's your outside hire = Everything everyone is worried about Jonesy, without having a Philadelphia passion for the team and city/culture. 2. Doug Wilson: Here is someone that did peak my interest and has a resume to back up his body of work, unfortunately his health and longevity for the foreseeable future is/was a detriment to being able to deliver the long haul of this rebuild.(5 year plan) 3. Ray Shero: See Dough Wilson minus the health issues, it seems he has his eyes on Pittsburgh again, this would of been a "more of the same" hire though at it's finest. 4. Emilie Castonguay: Outside the box from, "Just a good Ol boys, never meanin' no harm" though being with Vancouver, would of opened up a can of worms of dismay and a soap opera theatre "The Coaches Agency Reckless." *{Conflict of Interest} 5. Cammi Granato: Though I wouldn't publicly root for it, this would be an interesting choice, again I officially wouldn't back it up or approve it, but none the less, there is talent there. Also see choice 4*{Conflict of Interest} Honorable mentions: Chris Pronger, etc, etc, etc.... So the last two candidates were Eddie and Jonesy. Let me tell you something about Keith Jones, he's a soldier, a friend, a guy you want by your side in the trenches. He has integrity, commitment, self-awareness, drive, intelligence, a sense of humor, a strategic thinker; one of the cornerstones of leadership is the ability to stand up and voice/control a situation and make a decision and follow through. He's done that before. (See: Eric Lindros, collapsed lung assessment; Adventures of a Hot Mike, Many More: Unscripted.) He will stand up to the Old Guard and put his foot down if he deems it necessary. Of all the candidates that interviewed, maybe only two, I would not be so hesitant with (Doug and Ray), This position is more a position of Architect, setting up your pieces for success. Mr. Jones in all his endeavors has always done his homework, prepared himself to be able to do his job/s in all that he has touched. I don't think he would of interviewed for the position, had he thought, he would not take it seriously and respect the broad breath of commitment this unification entails(the marriage of Hockey Operations and Business Operations, in one accord), this embarges(embarks).