Howie58

I jumped out of my seat after Hathaway beat Bobo. Great win. The Flyers played with heart.

Watching this reminds me of how much we need another 30+ goal scorer or two. We can't take the war to them. We are skating well. But our few shots are from 30+ feet. Bobo will eat them up.

I was tempted. But going to that arena and dealing with fans who show up late, overpriced drinks, and lousy seating makes me stay away. I haven't been to a Panthers game for 4-5 years. And I used to have partial season's tickets. I sit there in a daze, not even caring what happens and glad to head home.

I've turned the audio off from the Bally Sports Florida home feed I am stuck with. The Fly Guys are game and frustrating the Cats but not getting much offense. The Panthers have tons of speed that neutralizes us.

I just saw a piece on the Hockey News about this trade. The author contended that the Flyers might flip him and absorb another 50% of his salary. So, someone might get a 25 point forward for 2 million. WTF. Waiving him within minutes is interesting.

I agree you don't waste assets. On the other hand, the last time I looked, round 5-7 picks have less than 40 percent chance of playing 100 or more games in the NHL. It is about 70 percent for first and about 60 for second. The 5-7 rounds are an undifferentiated blob. Are we blowing something by giving up a 5th. Yes. But it is relatively rare for this level pick to pan out long-term. I suspect they pried it it out of us. Getting a first for someone you really weren't expecting much of is OK.

On read is that if he wanted a first rounder, it was next year and he had to give it up.

So, Walker is out. Shot Blocker Specialist is on IR--probably negating a trade. So.....will a forward move? If I understand correctly, Nashville retained half his AAV in the trade to Colorado. So, the hit will not too bad. One account says he's a buyout candidate. Here's the capgeek estimate. How this works with salary retention is beyond me: https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/ryan-johansen

Greetings: The early moneyline makes the Panthers heavy favorites (-204); we've gone 2-7 out of the last nine in Sunrise: https://www.oddsshark.com/nhl/philadelphia-florida-odds-march-7-2024-2019849 While we beat them 2-1 in February; the tale of the tape shows why they're a Stanley Cup contender: https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/fla-vs-phi/2024/03/07/2023020996 We blocked 22 shots in the last matchup. The O and B can't get into a run-and-gun with this squad. You wonder if the impending deadline distracts our D? LGF

Greetings: Update to my earlier comment--if we believe the pundits including Friedman, one of the two D bros stays, it will not be both.

If I believe the pundits on YouTube and elsewhere, a double-deal for them will net much more. I wouldn't mind it. As Flyerfan said, this is a character-building year. Walker is an unexpectedly good asset. Fine. He an still go. Overpaying Seeler, even if he brings grit and shot-blocking, is a mistake. For all we know, this could end up as some complicated three-way gig in a cap-challenged world.

I am exhausted by all this discussion. Really. I just want it over. This may distill to the "usual suspect" rentals versus the "core." I could see TK go. Age. At peak. What will he be in 3-5 years? We get a first and prospect/draft and move on. Perhaps the same for Laughton with less of a return. If Mr. Shot Block and Walker go, fine. The PHLY crew discussed the former yesterday. If we pay over 1.5 or million for the dude, we are not being cap efficient. Move him. As for the latter--discussion of handshake deals, i.e., we move you, then you come back as a free agent, seem like BS. Lastly--do we really have any prospects someone would want that we'd give up? Bonk? No...other....hard to say.

Another observation: Staal looks lost and incapable of timely plays. He really is clogging the future. Based on what I saw tonight, I doubt he is trade bait.

We got a point. If we had a functional PP, maybe two. Sad loss.

Hayes to torment us. A goaltending clinic so far. I hope we wake up. Our penalties hurt.

This is a chess match with no clock. Goal posts are the MVP. I like our goal. Garbage. But it was needed.

This signing was done under the assumption we'd be underperforming, and that having a senior around during tough times would be stabilizing. Under current circumstances, he is taking away important development time. Maybe somebody offers a seventh to have him around post-Friday. Attard is probably at the up-or-out stage. We've been hearing about him for a few years but there is little play with the parent club.

I'd say this is an interesting matchup of two relatively inconsistent squads with one big difference. We are performing well above expectations. The Blues are underperformers.

Greetings: The home team is a mild favorite (-130) in a matchup between two squads that have been playing so-so hockey over their last 10: https://winnersandwhiners.com/games/nhl/3-4-2024/st-louis-blues-vs-philadelphia-flyers-prediction-5312/ These teams aren't much different statistically, with the Flyers being mildly better defensively: https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/phi-vs-stl/2024/03/04/2023020977 We took the first matchup in January 4-2. Let's hope for a sweep.

That was a different epoch. My take, sadly, is that other franchises realized this "paradigm" was over. Our management didn't. And we have paid dearly.

Greetings: The oddsmakers show the O & B as favorite (-133) with a computer-generated win probability of 57%: https://www.playpicks.com/1262552/flyers-senators-nhl-preview-prediction-3-2-2024/ On paper, we have the better defense, they have the better offense. Neither squad is great in the faceoff circle or on the PP: https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/ott-vs-phi/2024/03/02/2023020962 Ottawa has taken the first two this year, putting up five goals in both games. Maybe it is Giroux's revenge. After last night's embarrassment, I expect an angry Flyers squad. On the other hand, putting a rusty (at the NHL level) backup between the pipes could spell trouble. The scouts in-house will be telling/interesting.

We will look back at this as a season turning point. We could have kicked them out of playoff contention. Now, it looks like we kicked ourselves in the ass.

Boy, this is hard to watch. We were dominant and now we're dominated.

Good Morning! I post odds to anchor the thread. Hopefully, that doesn't bother the gang. I don't gamble, and posting the odds isn't intended to encourage it. I've found it interesting to see the moneyline change during the season. Early on, we were the heavy underdogs. For the last six weeks it's been more favorable. On occasion, we're even a favorite, like tonight, if only by a smidgen. The bookies are a little more respectful. Government tolerates the gambling. They can say, honestly, that unlike a general tax, gaming revenue is voluntary. You don't gamble, you don't pay. What's interesting to me is that online gaming is cannibalizing the casinos. That will take out the low-end casinos and kiosks. There is only so much gaming money at one time. Betrivers beware. Same for half the casinos in AC.

I am seeing a virtual dead heat odds-wise, with (-110) on the moneyline: https://news.sportsinteraction.com/nhl/matchup/flyers-vs-capitals-odds-030124-177319 There isn't much to distinguish between the squads on numbers: https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/phi-vs-wsh/2024/03/01/2023020954 They're a tad better offensively, but the Cap PP is almost as anemic as ours, which is strange given their personnel. We're on a three-game win streak and beat them back in December, 4-3. They are missing Oshie, we're missing TK. From my vantage--the O and B are on the way up, the Caps and Ovie may be heading south. Let's hope our youngins play like they did against TB.