BearOnIce

CP20 is making the picks. He will be assistant GM then GM within 3 years. Book it.

There is no plan. There is no road map. There is no farm system. There is no brain trust. Every Flyer fan needs to wake up, smell the coffee, and see what we have here. This is a broken, dysfunctional organization that rewards good players by making them scouts, assistat manager's management. Blind loyalty. Homerism of the worst kind. There will be no positive change until Snider and Holmgren are gone, and an outside group is running the team. This may take years.

The next Flyer parade will be when they take Ed down the load to Lemon Hill to pot him with the rest of the Snider's..

Mario, that is a nice thought but with all respect not possible. Ed is like a junkie to the needle. He tries to win at all expense without the patience to create an organization with the internal structure to develop a Stanley Cup winner the way it is done today. He listens to the player relics of his past. If they were great players they must be great management. How many organizations would allow a failed GM to maintain a position as a Senior VP in the same organzation? The most painful event of this coming year for Mr. Ed will be when the team tanks and he has to fire Holmgren mid-season. Mark it down. Or what will probably happen first Peter Laviolette gets fired as the scapegoat. It has been a lot of years trying to be a fan of this franchise. Manybe this is the last for me because it is fundamentally flawed.

With 50% of this forum not exactly on the Holmgren bandwagon, his leash should be pretty tight...

Merlot. More and do not stop pouring...

And so unfortunately the frustration will continue.

I agree, but let me suggest that Ed Snider believes in his heart that he and his organization are truely doing the right things and the right way. He has no one to challenge him otherwise. He has created this adoring homerism of a culture in his Flyers organization. He confuses this dysfunctionism with being a Flyers Family. His team makes the playoffs consistently. His team is right up there in the NHL in wins. He has a loyal fan base. His Wells Fargo Center consistently sells out. He looks to be successful with the Flyers by most measures. But, the one thing that must be hard for Ed Snider and his entire organization to get their arms around is why after 38 years of doing what they think they are doing right they do not have another Stanley Cup. Because nothing except that matters. Nothing. Thus, as the thread started and suggested the excuses come every year and all the time. It is always something. There is always an excuse. There are many business organizations like this today. Usually the stockholders clamor for change when the results are not there. Unfortunately, the Flyers are an Oligopoly with Ed The Ringmaster pulling the ropes. That is why there is such a negativism by so many people on this forum that truly understand hockey and a pale over the team and organization going into the summer and the upcoming season. Clearly organizational change bedrock up is absolutely necessary. Who stole my cheese, all change is very difficult. Especially as you get older and entrenched in your thinking. That is exactly what we are seeing lived out with the Flyers, and Mr. Snider.

And you cannot keep putting unqualified people with no demonstrative results in positions of management, authority, and decision-making always from within this organization in unwavering homerism because they were once great Flyer players and have Snider's man-love. In fact, the real issue, the true deal breaking issue as many of us believe it to be is simply Ed Snider. For all the good he has done, and there is quite a bit to give him credit for, his failing legacy, and what will unfortunately at some point end up on his headstone is that he did not have the right vision or ability to assemble a truly capable organizational management from top-down to win the big prize. The Flyers are a stagnant organization living on their self belief that they are a model hockey organization becuase they "try" all the time, but the reality is that they have nothing to show except playoff appearances and season wins, nothing over 38 years since winning a Stanley Cup with a style of play has has long since become antiquated. It is a pity, really.. But Flyer Fans, you can all chose with your wallets and purses. I can tell you that I am watching some great teams play some great hockey in these playoffs.

Howie: Thank you,. I hope that this team and this managment find a way out of the darkness right now. I am watching the playoffs and seeing tremendous skillsets and talnted lines rolling one after another. It has rekindled my love for the game, no matter what team. Stay thirsty, and well, my friend. Bear

Howie: I hear you with the middle-age thing. I just changed jobs. Much better place now. Merlot does help. This will be an interesting summer. Is there a perfect storm brewing for Paul Holmgren? Take care my friend, Bear

Howie: You nailed it. Thank you, Bear

In the world of big business Comcast, thee is no way even Ed The Ringmaster can eat that kind of buyout money. Net net is the organization has to change from the outside in. Snider out. Holmgren out. Needs to be a cleaning house and the only player that can force that is Lukko from his Comcast power base.

Yes boss.

You assume Peter the Great will be after next year. I say he should be here but this organization will pin the tail on that donkey unless they get a Top 4 finish 20013/14 before Ed accepts that one of his home grown Mr. Holmgren should go. Scrape, rinse, wash, repeat....

Yea, must be the goalie. Of course. Snider is cunning and delusional. When half of Flyers Nation wants Holmgren gone that should be a clear signal that the fan base does not think this franchise is going anywhere close to the right direction. I mean all you have to do is watch the uninterrupted coverage of the NHL playoffs yesterday so see what elite status in the league really means. The Flyers are far from it. Snider The Circus Master Ringleader is tryng to spin more spin, like he has for 38 years. His MO is make sure we keeo the sell-outs coming.....

Pantycakes is a Tool. You heard it here.

Both gone. Bye bye. -_-

Bryz is back. No question.

Hexy, I think Gag's will be back, agree to a little less say $2.5M and continue to add the veteran presence. I have a nagging fear that was an element missing this year and would not be surprised to see Holmgren go in that direction. Given this organizations orientatiob to take care of the kids they raise and nurse, I see Snider giving the thumbs up.

Holmgren will be in complete panic mode since has has been since 1995 with the old man up his ass. Expect this board to light up like a Christmas Tree when he starts to pull the switches and players start flying out of Philadelphia... What a summer on insanity to look forward to!

Comcast will slap his ass and no one can eat that much goalie crow, even Ed.

I guess the Flyers rode him too hard and often this year.... Sad now is that Mason will play, probably look lethal notwithstanding the slop in front of him, and the Flyers will win games. Then our pick goes out the window. Then there will be another raging goalie controversy all summer and all over this board until next Fall. You know they are not going to buy-out this guy until at best next year because too much money left on the table and crow to eat. :wacko:

The Flyers will do it with class because that is how Snider likes to do it for his players that have gone the distance for him. Right with you on Drury. Fizzled is a good way to put it. Nothing like Briere numbers.

I did not say that. You did. It is not in particular a good comparison eiher. Giroux is the face of the franchise not Toews. Kimmo is the one who should be the captain of the Flyers because he would of been a better choice. Much better. Certain media go to Kimmo for just that reason.