Molly Bell

According to the Criminal Code of Canada, consent must happen at the time of the act. So those videos after the fact mean nothing regardless.

It’s not a competition. This is a hockey forum. There is a systemic race culture in hockey. Period.

The commissioner said it's "both inaccurate and unfair" to say there are systemic culture issues in hockey. He said hockey players and hockey families "overwhelmingly conduct themselves appropriately." "Ninety-nine-point-nine per cent of players, certainly in our league, conduct themselves appropriately," said Bettman. "...To take a handful of players in this or in other situations and use those allegations and condemn a particular sport, I don't think is reflective of what we are." BULLLSHITTT! And your other post Sheldon Kennedy talks about just how systemic the problem is. Bettman is a douche canoe.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/with-players-from-2018-world-junior-team-charged-lawyers-say-behind-the-scenes-legal-battles-brewing-1.2070822 Rick Westhead with another insightful article.

There was a 16 year intoxicated girl raped by Ben Johnson of the Windsor Spitfires in a bathroom stall. They were both underage in a bar. The NJD dropped his contract when he was charged and he was found guilty.

This statement is rubbish. The Flames absolutely knew he was part of the 2018 World Junior Team and charges were likely. Their first press release indicates Dube was “under doctor’s care for mental health issues.” If a player has a health issue and is requesting a leave of absence surely a doctor’s note would be necessary. Clearly that was a lie. Now they insinuate Dube was lying? Last, there iare zero apologies here for referencing mental health as the excuse used. What a slap in the face to people who truly suffer from mental illness.

None of them would have been able to legally be in that bar unless 19 or older. Also, if she were a minor at the time, THAT WOULD MAKE THIS EVEN WORSE, if that’s even possible!

who are you referring to that was 16 at the time? In this case all were of age.

I don’t know where you are getting the 8% percent figure, but even so, that’s only 8% of the 10% of sexual assaults that ARE reported. 90% ARE NOT REPORTED. So again, false accusations are NOT the problem. Does it happen? Sure. Does it happen often? No. Does it happen even a little bit? Hardly. The National Registry of Exonerations reports that since 1989, only 52 men have been exonerated due to the false rape allegations. This number is compared to 790 overturned murder cases. This means that men falsely accused of rape are often able to dissolve these matters before spending substantial time in jail. Please watch The Anatomy of a Scandal I posted the link above. You will quickly understand that no one is “making up” stories. I am sure their defence will be about consent. They will not nor cannot deny they had sex. It will be interesting. Ben Johnson, who played for the Windsor Spitfires and drafted to NJ, was arrested and tried for sexual assault in 2013. The victim was inebriated. The judge found him guilty because she could not give consent. He was sentenced to 3 years in prison. Oh, and of course, NJ terminated his contract.

The Fifth Estate on CBC aired an episode is called An Anatomy of a Scandal last year. It is very enlightening and depicts clearly the timeline of events. I recommend you watch it if you haven’t done so already.

False sexual assault accusations are not an issue. SA is extremely hard to prove. If someone is found guilty of sexual assault, then they are.

Both can be true. yes there was a confidentiality agreement. Yes it’s been reported (by Rick Westhead I believe) that the victim was paid “millions”. (I thought I read 2.5). I don’t really care.

if you followed the details of this case, Hockey Canada told the players NOT to speak to the investigators. In fact, when HC was notified that the victim went to the police the next day, someone with HC notified the players and they left London. The London Police dropped the ball because they did not do their due diligence in investigating. These players (all of them whether they were involved or not), did not cooperate with the investigation back then. They weren’t “cleared” as you suggest. They weren’t charged (at the time). Trust me, the police would not reopen the case and charge 5 players for a crime that happened 5 years ago if they do not have very convincing evidence.

Think about what you just wrote. You claim many sexual assault accusations are false, and are done so for money. Do you realize that, statistically, over 90% of all rapes go unreported? And of those 10% that are reported, less than 5% are straight-out false accusations and/or recanted for other reasons. So factually there are only a minuscule number of accusations that are false. Comments like yours and others on here is exactly why most women do not report being sexually assaulted; because they are rarely believed, especially when the accused is an athlete or famous or both.

Pilldoc. It’s Province not Providence. As someone who worked in Canadian Law firms for Civil Law lawyers, I know how it works. As well, I billeted OHL players. I believe every single victim. The hockey culture is outrageous.