habsguy26

The Habs and P.K Subban are SO far apart.

Marc Bergevin and owner Geoff Molson were in Toronto last night, meeting with Subban at his home, along with Subban's agent. Apparently, no ground was gained on a new deal.

The Habs want 2 years at 3 million (or something similar to the contract of MDZ), and they are using Del Zotto's contract in their negotiations for sure. But, Subban and his camp are seeking 8 years at around 6 million (ala Tyler Myers). Yeah, thanks Darcy Regier.

Today, Subban sat down with The Montreal Gazzette:

"Do I see myself playing for any other team? From a business standpoint, I'm sure there are other teams where I could fit in and be a big part of things moving forward, give them a chance to win. But ultimately, deep down inside, I want to play for the Montreal Canadiens."

That quote raises a question. Would the Habs dare trade P.k's rights?

TSN was showing the Leafs-Pens game last night, and 1st intermission they host a game show called "The Quiz". The contestants (Bob McKenzie, Darren Dreger, Darren Pang and Aaron Ward {yes, that Aaron Ward} ) were asked a simple question: Do you believe the Habs will trade P.k Subban?

They're response? Yes.

But, who knows? No one knows. Marc Bergevin has never been in this situation before so we will have to wait and see wait happens.

Happy Hockey

Montreal????

Explain that one please.

No idea!! Not sure why Montreal would want him.

Speculation is Corey Perry turned down an 8 year extension to stay with his draft team, the Anaheim Ducks. Perry's agent has reportedly let Bob Murray, Ducks' GM, know that the intention is for Perry to test the free agent waters after this season.

Perry has been linked to Philly, Pittsburgh, Toronto and Montreal (according to Eklund) as possible trade destinations.

Cole-Desharnais-Pacioretty

Gionta-Plekanec-Galchenyuk

Gallagher/Moen-Eller-Bourque

Prust-White-Armstrong

Nokelainen

Markov - Emelin

Gorges - Diaz

Boullion - Kaberle

Weber

Price

Budaj

I like the lineup. We will see what they can do tomorrow night against the Leafs.

Happy Hockey

My predictions:

East:

1) Penguins

2) Bruins

3)Capitals

4)Rangers

5)Lightning

6)Flyers

7)Hurricanes

8)Senators

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9)Sabres

10)Devils

11)Jets

12)Panthers

13) Canadiens

14) Islanders

15) Leafs

West

1) Blues

2) Canucks

3) Kings

4) Blackhawks

5) Predators

6) Red Wings

7) Wild

8) Oilers

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9) Sharks

10) Stars

11) Ducks

12) Avalanche

13) Flames

14) Coyotes

15) Blue Jackets

Rangers win the cup over Blues in 7 games

Both valid points. Thanks for the response.

Alex Galchenyuk is coming off a gold medal victory from this past World Juniors with Team U.S.A. He has 62 points (including 27 goals) in 33 games in the OHL with The Sarnia Sting. But, is he good enough to make the Montreal Canadiens?

Yes.

Should be play for Montreal this season?

Yes.

Should he spend the season in Montreal?

No.

While many feel that he would be a perfect fit on the 2nd line with Plekanec and Gionta (me being one of those people) I do not think he should stick around the NHL for the entire season. Why? Why would they keep him?

Well, they'll keep him if he has a PPG pace.

Personally, I say keep him for the rookie limit and then send him back to Sarnia.

Discuss.

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Why would I be jealous? Lol. You can have that cry baby Crosby. And I can't proved that it was fixed, as I was only kidding and jabbing sides... but hey oh well. Can I remind you of that little deal you made with Vancouver a couple of years ago that involved a guy named Markus Naslund? lol

@Polaris922 Let me remind you of the countless players enshrined in the HOF. Also, let me remind you that EVERY team hits bumps in the road. I do remember your Penguins almost relocating if not for a fixed lottery Not trying to be rude though lol

@jammer2 not trying to be rude just telling it as it is

@hf101 LOL

@jammer2 And? What does that have to do with the Montreal Canadiens? The winningest, proudest, most celebrated franchise in HOCKEY history, who has a great reputation for treating players well??? Players don't have to live in Quebec. As you may or may not know, the city of Ottawa is RIGHT on the border of Ontario and Quebec, and 21.6% of the city is french. Also, I'm sure that in Ottawa, there is just as many Habs fans as there are Sens fans. Have you seen an Sens-Habs game in Ottawa? There is just as many -- if not more, Habs fans in attendance. Plus, obviously, Ottawa is not the only place a Montreal Canadian who is scared of a little taxes (may I remind you these are multi-millionaires we are talking about here) to live. Tomas Kaberle still lives in Toronto for christ sakes. Gionta, Cole, Pacioretty, (all American) now call Montreal home. Mike Cammalleri said Montreal is the best place to play AND live (even after he was traded). May I also remind you that Montreal is historic, beautiful and the people are friendly. Also can't forget to mention the beautiful women and rocking night life. Zing.

@jammer2 A lot of NHL organizations are like that

NOT trolling, just want to say I still am not sold on Subban as a top blueliner. He seems to be missing something,he was not bit hard by the sophmore jinx last year but did take a step back statistically. I know you are really high on him but I wouldnt offer more than a three year deal for good but not Chara/Weber money and see where he goes. He has room to develop but could slip back just as easily to a 2nd pair d-man with holes in his game. Sorry.

Yeah I am not completely sold on him either, but he has the potential to be a STUD! I said I'd offer him 3 years at 3.5

@habsguy26 If the Flyer put in an RFA offer on Subban, they know full well if they want a young player to remain a Flyer, they will not let him reach RFA status, it's as simple as that....if you think a youngster is valuable to the organization, lock him up before you are vulnerable. Homer knows this I am thinking.

What makes you think one the said players would automatically resign with the Flyers immediately? A lot of RFA's hold out until they can get the best offer possible

How about the $68M in bonuses they offered Weber?

You think a SUBBAN deal is going to create problems for the Flyers?

Giroux, BSchenn and Couturier are ALL up in 14-15. I can think of several GMs just ITCHING to get an offer sheet out.

Yeah that was my point exactly! If the Flyer's offer sheet another stud d man, the whole league would be gunning for their players who are RFA's.

Um, so those attributes do not translate into a wing position? Your points are valid though. He is only 23 and playing 24 minutes a night. I guess at the end of the day, you need d help more than wing help. I just always thought he looked more like a power forward to me than a d-man.

Not saying he wouldn't make for a good forward, he'd be very Dustin Bfuglien circa 2010 (sp) - esque. But I think his skills would better translate into a top pairing, PP QB'ing, in your face defender.

If the maturity actually does come with age, which isn't always 100%, then he has the skills to be very good.

I would think Gomez and Kaberle would be very popular names in the buyout discussions.

He's an RFA after this season. Any chance someone sends him an offer sheet?

He is already an RFA, he is not under contract to any team at the current moment, however Montreal owns his rights. I don't think there is a possibility of an offer sheet coming his way. Too many politics/repercussions that would come back with Subban. Could you imagine how pissed everyone would be if Philly offered him one? Offer sheets would flood the Flyer's player's mailboxes!

I just don't see it. If I was a Montreal fan / coach I would want to move him to wing. He has skill, but I don't think his skill translates as well as a defencemen.

Hm... I don't see that either. Subban works well as a dman. Last season he had quality minutes on one of the top penalty kills in the league and he had decent minutes on the power play. He has a booming shot and is a good body checker, he also has a good stick. Sometimes, he can be caught out of position resulting in odd man rushes, but with some good coaching, that can be fixed.

Now that there is a new CBA in place, Marc Bergevin can finally get to work on resigning one of the league's brightest young defencemen. Let me remind you that Subban is eligible for an 8 year contract (new CBA allows 7 year deal for free agents and an 8 year deal for a free agent whose rights you already own).

My opinion is, sign the man for 3 years at around 3.5 and see where it goes from there. In the 2013-2014 season, the amnesty buyout clause (also part of the new 10 year CBA agreed upon early this morning by the NHL and the NHLPA) will take affect which will allow teams to buy out 2 players per year without a remaining salary cap hit. This would give Montreal, who already has 60.3 M in salary used, to buy out some players to free up space (erhm Gomez and Kaberle/Bourque anybody?)

Subban has the potential to be a top 5 defenceman in the league. All he needs is a bit of maturity, which will come with age.

Discuss.

Great read, welcome to the board. I have a younger brother who is autistic, he doesn't like hockey as much as your son, but trust me, I know that when an autistic person likes something.. they REALLY like something. Hopefully this lock out ends soon and you guys can spend some more quality time together.

Welcome, again.

What a shame. Looks like a great hockey city will be leaving the NHL soon.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=407598

Great piece by Hindle and I agree 100%.

So I simmed everything up until the Finals, then I wanted to play (I play on All-Star). Like I said, horrid start to the season. Had about a 33% win percentage a quarter of the way through but finished 41-29-12. Then went 7 games in the first three playoff series, knocking off the Devils, Islanders, and Penguins. Seems like the Atlantic was amazing this season. Swept the Blues in the Finals winning 5-1, 5-1, 2-1 (Couturier with a breakaway goal late in the third and then ZacfrickenRinaldo scored in OT), and then a 3-0 shutout.

Bryz won the Conn Smythe with 16 wins, a .943 save percentage, and a 1.60 GAA. Giroux had the most points with 23, and Brayden Schenn and his brother Luke tied for 4th with 16 points each. Brayden had the most goals in the playoffs with 13. I'm interested in seeing how much each of the young guys progressed this year since I put them on the first and second lines.

Price had those exact numbers when I just won the cup again, glad I didn't trade him! Although I think I will need to this year, Malcom Subban is too good to be my back up again. Canuck goalie situation ftw!

@Podein25

LOL Good ol' Defoy :')

Price's trading value is actually very high, but no one will take him because they aren't willing to trade away a top 2 defender. It sucks. Subban is only top 4.

@Podein25 @PHI Flyers10

Price is 90 overall, wins 40 games a year but his save % is around .905% and GAA is 2.98 or something, its stupid... Malcom Subban is 86 overall in 2019, He is ready to take over the reins from Price, but, I want a top 2 defender from someone and no one is on the trading block. It is seriously almost impossible to acquire anyone who isn't on the trading block.