mojo1917

@ jm and irish

the kid is clocking the A. i can think of 3 forwards from the healthy top 9 that i'd rather see schenn than. i want to see him healthy and with a line mate for more than 5 shifts... you know.

we traded our captain for him not simmonds, i want to see whats up, he's big , got skills can't do any worse in the face off circle than what we've got , him and mono kid give us some size down the middle

@ terp, 87 put a couple decent cross checks together there too, the elbow (from watching the replay) was high, but to me it was in the course of already cheating with the cross checks and jockeying for position, he didn't line foligno up for 4 strides and smashing him with it... it's a physical game that one got away from him...

i do agree though that he if he wants to play the game hard in the areas of the ice where that **** happens, then he needs to protect himself and not get bitchy when he gets clocked. and if he's worried about his brain's health then he needs to adjust his game and become more of a perimeter player. jeff carter could give lessons.

@ brelic,

i didn't have HBO last year so i didn't see that, and i'm basing my opinion of the guy based on public appearances, so he was on his good behavior, however, being a media type i had access to him prior to and after the events and he was kind to everyone.

now, that said i wasn't in the locker room and didn't play for him so it could be he was a douche to his players, but he did not have the "douche" vibe otherwise.

:blink:

wow right after boudreau became the quickest coach to 200 wins in team history.

well i always liked Bruce, he's a good guy , a buddy of mine worked with him in Hershey; and i met him at some charity stuff, he's a class act and a good hockey man. i'm glad he got a chance to coach in the bigs. big surprise, though, i guess all those euro players need a different voice to help them learn to back check, change when called and not pout.

@ jammer2 nice to see you posting here.

t's going to take them sometime to get their chemistry for Simmods and Briere

not sure i would put simmonds on danny's wing, i don't think he has the hands, at least i haven't seen it from him yet. 48 plays better when he's got guys near his ability level with him; he's a sniper, finds the soft spot in the d, he needs a creative guy with him to get max production. he's not a mike richards type whose game, when he plays it, is simple and can tolerate guys like carcillo and nodl.

o darn no lijia for a month and a half

looks like i'll get my wish and see if marc-andre can play in the NHL... too bad Gustavsson is on the rack this would be a good time to get him some starts....

I know the Flyers are rich, but would they really be willing to just throw away $45M dollars remaining on a contract and chalk it up to just a bad contract??

before the chairman retires, i think yes this team might actually blow 45 million dollars to rid itself of a bad deal. the flyers have got to be in the top 5 in terms of revenue league wide...it would be a hit financially but at $7 bucks for a coke they'll make that up in a week

@ aziz and terp i wonder what kind of motivation the towel and touk would foster in Bryzgalov, so far , limited sampling i know, i'm not sure that he doesn't go into the tank if he's benched. then what ? 9 years of malcontent head case :blink:

I wouldn't mind him for 3-4 years at $4 milion a year, but this contract makes Leinos look alright. At least Villes expires in 2017/18 season

can you say buy out... especially with the new cba coming and a chance to dump some bad ones... we've got a couple

I may be wrong but I group Sharp with Williams as players that Hitch did not want to coach on his team and had the org move them out.

i agree with a lot of what you are laying down here.

i also think having sharp around would have been helpful to richards and carter from a maturation standpoint, he is just a little older than those guys but would have had some credibility with them from a team/ hockey skills stand point, & a poon chasing standpoint he could have lessened the rush to promote richards to captain since he would have been the leader of the young group... i really think had hitch not buried him at the end of the bench the make up of the roster would look different today, and maybe there's some better banners hanging from the rafters.

@ bertmega

glad to see i'm not the only one that sees the resemblance...

Giroux seems to have fallen on hard times since since Jagr isn't available to feed him pucks

what ? he's got 3 pts in the 2 games without jagr.

@terp well in Marshall's case slow and stupid is no way to make it to the show...

my thought with these guys is once Gus gets healthy he should play, and play a lot; even at the expense of Lilja or Walker, he has upside to develop, at this point Lilja is what he is same with Walker, and if Bourdon is close , why not dress him for a couple of games as a 7 and give him some NHL minutes and see if he rises to the challenge. that way when 20 is not able to dress we have options that know Lavy's "system" and we can roll 3 pairings instead of shortening the bench.

I honestly don't think this organization has a clue how to develop defencemen. Both these guys were above average juniors. It's not like it's too late for them, but I'm not seeing a whole lot of progress. Christ, the odds are we'd fluke a good/great defenceman some day. Yet we haven't.

i remember the book on bourdon coming out was a chris letang type player, puck mover, good shot, won't hose you because he's thinking offense. i remember people on the forum being pretty high on him.

i also remember the book on marshall was his skating needed to improve and um well, sounds like that's not happening.

for me it's been bryzgalov... i thought he'd roll in and be solid, don't worry about the young guys you get me four and we'll win...i guess he needs to work into form or something, and while some the goals he's had some bad bounces and /or no chance , he doesn't appear to compete to make saves when there's a bunch of bodies in the crease, and that is disturbing as that's what we'll see when the games start to mean something. you want your big dollar keeper to be set it and forget it thus far this hasn't been the case

Hi, I asked this in another thread and was pretty sure the question was going to go unanswered... so who saw these guys last night and what were your impressions ? do they have a future in the NHL or are they maybe # 7s on a good defense ? either of these two make any kind of impression... and what would be the big whoop with playing them now ?

thx

@ mmer.

you are underestimating the chairman and his desire to ice a winning team, carter and richards are considered top tier talent , homer wasn't going to just salary dump them, ala gagne. he needed to get players back who could contribute or mr snider would have his scalp.

i thought sid looked freakin' awesome, lots of jump and compete, didn't shy from contact, still has sick skill. i thought nbc sports coverage of him was borderline creepy. the studio host with milbury and jonesy was so breathless he sounded like he was dealing with some wood or something... "oh my he's got 7 minutes of ice time will he be okay ?" jonesy was just rolling his eyes at that douche. the guy is 24 he'll be fine...

so who saw the game and what are your thoughts on Bourdon and Marshall ? i'll say this having never seen either of them, if they're our best homegrown prospects on defense, then why not play them now and see whether or not they can cut it in the bigs ... or do they not have the ability ? who's got a take

I don't think it's the points so much as the hockey sense and effort. His play lately is a little too reminiscent of Carter. But look at a guy like Read, and even when he's not getting points, he is involved in a play every time he's on the ice. Second efforts, hitting, killing penalties, cycling. He's 'visible' all the time.

I still like him, and his production is up from last year, so we can't complain too much... it's just that I was hoping we'd get a little more Playoff JVR.

i have a suspicion he's getting used to his new more muscular frame as well, i spent most of my youth as a skinny athlete when i was in my 20 and 30's my body changed, partially because i worked on it in the gym but also i physically matured. after adding my 20 lbs of muscle (over years ) i did not feel near as quick and wasn't sure what to do with the new found strength and power. eventually about a season, i figured it out and all of my athletic endeavors, volleyball , tennis, and golf saw improvement but while i was getting used my new self i felt heavy footed, and slow to react. perhaps some of this is going on with JvR since he spent the summer pulling ford 150's around in parking lots...

i don't get whats the rush with him playing in the show. harry z and zach are playing well. to me shenn is the 2nd coming of kris versteeg. not in skill just one to many moves that didn't work and messed with team chemistry

while i agree that Harry Z has played pretty well and Rinaldo has been a total pleasant surprise with the skill he brings with his edge, they are not the guys you traded your captain for . Brayden Schenn he's that guy, by the time he got hurt he was starting to look comfortable, since it was only his 4th game i'd like to see a little more of what he can do.... i think i've read he cam play right wing , plus as awful as this team is on faceoffs wouldn't it be a good idea to see if 10 can help there ? the swoon that occured on his first call up was on bryzgalov not being able to stop a beach ball, not schenn. the jagr giroux hartnell line hadn't come together yet either it's a long grind let's get the blue chipper some quality nhl ice time , see what he can do before we have to rely on him due to an injury.

I think Giroux is lost without Jagr.

do you really think that ?

i mean that they had Harry Z on the first line ??

um there's probably room in the roster for schenn if we're sliding Harry Z up to the first line. just saying.

Simmonds has strangely not been very good of late. He came out of the gate in pre-season and regular season like a gang buster. But, his play has noticeably tailed off. I was wondering, yesterday, if he's suffering some nagging injury.

well to be realistic about wayne, he was the "throw in " in the deal for Richards, he came out of the gate well, i never expected him to continue to score at the pace he was early on, i think we're seeing what he's going to be and that is a Hartnell type, hard to play against, pot you some goals to the tune of 15-23 a year. play strong where the men play and be an energy guy who can throw the mitts when needed. to expect him to significantly pick up the scoring hole left by richards and carter's departure isn't fair to wayne and his abilities. i like what he brings to the team , but he's a depth energy guy and probably not a permanent top 6 forward. you can slide him up occasionally as we've seen he's responded well then he comes back to earth.

this is a discussion where i can see all sides.... i fall squarely in the camp that want to see him on the ice in the NHL though; he's got size, he's not jeff carter hockey stupid, he's been a man among boys at every level of hockey except the KHL an NHL

i also don't know where he fits on this roster, play him outta position on the wing ? put him on the 4th line ? none of those options sound very good to me. i will say if schenn turns out to be a good player we're in a pretty nice situation with our depth at forward and that is all good.