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Nope. Perfect timing!!!

It's fake.

They must be thinking something big. This feels like either a blockbuster is about to go down or it's going to fizzle into nothing.

Oooh..... Now that's interesting. That really changed the complexion of the deal. Now to make it fit cap wise....

It might be. I'm hoping they don't give up on Sanheim though. I think he can bounce back and if DeAngelo goes, he becomes the defacto number one power play defenseman (which he always should have been).

I'm wondering if it's a Hayes/Laughton package going to St Louis. Laughton, Hayes, retention on the Hayes contract and a throw in like Wade Allison.

Just wait until draft day when Schmuck's on the Sportsnet draft show and he's giving his opinion on things. There should be done golden words and quotes on there. Let's see if he talks with Briere and Tortorella.....

Maybe it's more than just Laughton in the St Louis deal. I'm wondering if Danny is trying to peddle Hayes in that direction as well. However, Ryan Johansson just got tested to Colorado and Nashville is eating 50% of his contract. Danny gonna have to eat more than 30% of the Hayes contract.

Just wait until they get rid of physicality all together in hockey. It's going to be like watching figure skating.....lol

You know what's strange? I've read numerous scoring reports on the players, but there's one thing missing. I remember when scouts used to identify players who hated losing more than they loved winning. What ever happened with those types of players? It's seems like they no longer exist. Those are players you win with.

Well, the way I look at it is that there's Tippett, Atkinson, Konecny, Foerster, Allison, and Brink. Atkinson will be moved at some point, especially if he's healthy this year. That's a trade deadline acquisition. We all know that Briere is taking calls on Konecny. Allison can't stay healthy. So that leaves Tippett, Brink and Foerster. Now, Tippett can also play the left side, so that's a bonus. Gauthier will more than likely be a left winger at the pro level and there's still Farabee. So, potentially, your left side could be Tippett/C.Gauthier/Farabee. The right side could be Leonard/Foerster/Brink/E. Gauthier. I'd love a center. Everyone knows that I want Riley Heidt at 22. But you can see what Briere is potentially putting together, piece by piece. Now, nobody knows what's going to happen on draft day. It's possible Briere surprised everyone and selects two defensemen (Reinbacher and Dragicevic?). Hell, he could go completely off board and really do something that makes people go "what?!?!?". It's all just speculation at this point. With that being said, Button has hit on numerous Flyers choices, so he might be on to something. I do get where you're coming from with the over abundance of right wingers though. I absolutely love this time of year. Let the speculation run wild!!!!

Watch some video of Leonard of you get a chance. He's a fun player to watch. He's Brady Tkachuk-lite.

Craig Button also did his mock draft for TSN today and he thinks the Flyers will select Ryan Leonard at 7 and Ethan Gauthier at 22. Never really considered Gauthier, but he fits the work ethic and effort profile. Craig Button is usually pretty bang on with these and he seems to hit on the Flyers picks, so if this is the way they go, that's not bad. Two bull rush wingers with non stop motors and work ethic to match.

https://www.flyersnation.com/fletcher-discusses-flyers-tenure-points-to-niskanen-as-vital-loss-team-wasnt-able-to-recover-from-injuries/ It's 100% Niskanen and injuries that caused the Flyers to collapse as per Schmuck. None of his ****** moves helped contribute to things. What a tone deaf idiot.....lol

Lol.... Did anyone see Fletcher's comments about getting fired? I'll have to post that article.

Everything depends on what player is drafted at 9 or 10. At the same time, Konecny has scored 30 goals in a season once and 20 three times. The rest are 11, 14 and 17 goals. In fairness, when Debrincat was traded, he had two seasons of 40 goals, 1 season of 30 goals, 1 season of 20 goals and 1 season with 18 goals. Regardless of our opinions on Konecny (and just to let you know, I really like Konecny), his seasons just don't measure up to what Debrincat has done in less time and GMs recognize things like that. Now do I think a player drafted at 9 or 10 can be a 30 goal scorer? Absolutely. If a GM isn't thinking that, then they need to be fired. If you're picking that high, the thinking it's that you're getting a top six forward (wingers in particular) or a top 4 defenseman that will put up numbers on the power play. 30 goals in a top six role isn't an unrealistic expectation. Of course, development is everything. If the development path is checking and defense and ignoring offense (which for the longest of time was the Flyers development plan), players will fail. I have high expectations that Briere and company will addresses the development issues . Sorry about the long winded answer.

I think Michkov ends up in San Jose. But agreed, if he's available at 7, you run to the podium, not walk, and take him. Yeah I'm pretty sure there'll be a number of moves on draft night. There seems to be lots of jockeying this offseason in terms of teams shaking things up. I'm not sure how I feel about the draft age moving to 20. Hockey is a bit different than basketball and football in that these kids are often living with billets and often in cities away from their families. These players are pretty much forced to grow up at a young age and mature quickly. Yeah I'm torn on that one. I get where you're coming from though with that.

I'm cheering the scorched earth approach, absolutely. Previous management actively refused to perform a full rebuild and wasted careers chasing mediocrity. I'm glad that Briere has the cajones to realize this and is doing what needs to be done. Yes, that also includes not spending in free agency and cutting spending. They aren't competing for anything. There's no need to sign free agents or spend big dollars on anyone. It's all about developing young players now.

https://www.inquirer.com/flyers/flyers-nhl-draft-danny-briere-brent-flahr-strategy-michkov-20230622.html Good read and there's embedded tweets in there from Giana Han with comments from Nature Boy Brent Flahr. He basically said if a player has issues with effort and work ethic, it's a no go. If the issue is strength or skating, they're willing to work with the player. I think they have their eyes on Benson and if he's gone, possibly Dvorsky. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that's an awfully big hint at the direction they're looking. I also don't believe for one second they aren't walking away with another first. There's just too much smoke going on. It's clear Briere wants to get younger, faster and get that cap down. There'll be no spending this year.

As far as 7 is concerned, this is my list of players if they're available: 1) Benson - you can't teach drive or work ethic. He might not be the fastest, but he's fast enough and when you add his skill set to his drive and work ethic, it's a no brainer. 2) Dvorsky - incredible how he played against his peers and he's got the best overall game out of all the centers. Think Couturier 2.0, but with better wheels. Once again, not a burner, but he plays in all situations and is just a fantastic and under rated talent. 3) Moore - speed, speed, speed. Oh my God, he's so fast. He also thinks the game well and when he gets to Minnesota, he's going to get his chance to shine. He might end up being a better player than Will Smith simply because he was the do it all guy for the USNTDP. I've read the Dylan Larkin comparisons, but from the video I've watched with some of my scout friends, I'd say he's better skating Elias Pettersson. 4) Leonard - he's a hybrid in that he's physical like the Tkachuk boys, but he's got the offensive stylings of Chris Kreider. He'll go through a brick wall to score goals, but his playmaking game really started to come together this year. A bookend of him and Gauthier could be really special. Put them alongside someone like Frost and they could really give the opposition fits. 5) Perrault - I get that he might be a reach here, but bloodlines matter and his dad was one of the best faceoff men to ever play. He can take draws in all zones (even though he's a winger), he can play in any spot in the lineup (he's versatile), he sees the ice well and is lethal in the offensive zone. He's smaller, so physicality will never be his big suit, but he's incredibly smart and just knows where to be on the ice at all times. He's a Jonathan Marchessault type player, but with better offensive instincts. Kid's a winner. 6) Morin - yep, I do have a defenseman on the list, but not any of the Euro guys. I'm a big fan of players from the QMJHL. For the longest of time, the Q had a reputation for being an offense only league, but that has changed and a lot of the defensemen coming out of there really have the concept of two way play down. I love what he brings to the table and done of the scouts I've talked with (there are a few that live in the town I do) have said that if they were choosing any defensemen, Etienne Morin would be their first choice. He's incredibly crisp and calm with the puck, doesn't lose his composure playing defense, isn't afraid to bang bodies and makes the smart choice all the time. Once again, he'd be considered a reach, but if he hits, you've got an all world defender. So yeah, those would be my choices at 7.

I can't see Knies being one of the players/prospects for Laughton. However, a combination of Nick Robertson/Fraser Minten/Topi Niemela would certainly work.

...and that's what I'm worried about. Arizona tried that with Chychrun and we all saw how that turned out. If you get a good, fair deal, take it. The Flyers are rebuilding. The goal should be good draft picks and/or prospects. No one is giving up a top 10 pick for Laughton. No one is giving up a top 10 pick for Konecny. So, take a good package of assets and go from there.

Blame Schmuck, Hextall, Holden and Clarke for their refusal to do a proper rebuild.

Zadina might be Tippett 2.0 in that it's taking him some time to put it all together. Give Zadina a playmaking center (picture him on Couturier's left side) and he might just take off. I'm intrigued at the very least.

From Detroit, if they're offering 17, a second and a prospect, I'd hope said prospect is Marco Kasper.