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  1.  Thanks so much for the history lesson, gave me a nice historical perspective on the top curlers. Another question, is the Briere curlings version of the Stanley Cup, or is it the Scott Tournament of Hearts? I've heard of both of them, but don't know where they fit in the overall scheme of things. Ya know, I don't *really* know what is going on in the curling portion of the Olympics, but I get the sense I'd like it if I knew the rules better. Some of the strategy looks wickedly fun if you ask me.

     

    The Brier is the Canadian men's national championship.  The Tournament of Hearts is the women's.  The recent years, the Canadian Olympic teams have been determined by the champions of the Roar of The Rings tournament, however, previously, the Brier champion (of the Olympic year) was automatically awarded the Olympic opportunity. (Not sure about the TOH)

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    Thus @jammer2  Zetterberg is out of the tournament.  His 1 pt from the first game will count.  Pick another forward from Sweden not owned by another member's team and his scores moving forward will count for your team.

     

    Do it, @jammer2!  Pick Alfie!  You know you want to!   :P

     

    Now if there were someway for me to make sure that Jonathan Quick gets hurt so Ryan Miller would have to take the nets  :ph34r:

  3. @fanaticV3.0

     

    Try it....

     

    Depending on ice conditions, a two-hour game of curling can leave you absolutely exhausted.  When was the last time you were completely out of breath while bowling of golfing?

     

    I had actually read an article on the physical effort of curling.  They had attached some kind of device to each of the curlers on Team Kevin Martin, the gold medalists in Vancouver.  Each of them logged approximately 1,000-1,700 calories burned in one match.

     

    It's a lot.  The athleticism comes, not only in the form of muscular control to allow for proper delivery and more effective sweeping, but also in endurance, so those muscles can keep performing in the later stages of the game (where the shots REALLY count).

  4. @Hockey Junkie

    @fanaticV3.0 

    @SpikeDDS

     

    Gentlemen-  Not only as a fan of curling, but a curler myself, I can tell you that curling is INDEED a sport worthy of its place in the Olympics.  The amount of physical effort required during a single game is extraordinary.  Yes, it is a contest that just about anyone can get into and enjoy, however, physical fitness usually prevails.  

     

    Now, to go back to Spike's original post, the US is not doing very well and a lot of us curlers are wondering why they take the shots that they take, which tend to put them deeper into the holes they dig for themselves.

     

    Women's curling on the other hand is indeed a spectator sport, and if one is so inclined, a number of calendars are made and sold featuring some of the more appealing ladies in rather racy (but tasteful) poses.  Think that Swiss Third looks pretty good?  She looks a lot better nude.

  5. @radoran

    Eh...you're probably right.  I forgot he was out with injury this season, which is why I didn't see the numbers I was looking for.  And I didn't want to count Vanek's season this year because it's not over yet, and Vanek could, as you say, fall off a cliff.  If he doesn't, it would certainly demonstrate his versatility as a winger, being able to put up respectable numbers with any line combination.  Another reason Detroit should be eyeballing him.

     

     

    @Commander Clueless 

    Other options besides Tatar would be preferred (assuming of course they go for the trade deadline).  Tatar is a top scorer on the third or fourth line with Detroit.  Vanek would most certainly take second line.  The Wings have plenty of prospects and young players to deal.  I know NYI is looking for capable talent to augment guys like Okposo and Tavares, so sending someone like Tomas Jurco, OR (not and) Riley Sheahan, coupled with a young defender might make for a nice package.  Their ability and potential are high, but a low cap hit.  The savings would allow Garth Snow to also pursue another "more expensive" scoring winger in the offseason as well.

     

    As has been discussed in many of the Detroit forums here, the greater need is for a better defender, which is a key flaw in Detroit's system right now.  If a deal can be made a hot shot blueliner, that would produce that many more scoring chances for the existing offensive talent

  6. @Commander Clueless

     

    That would be the reason to wait until the offseason.  There's no way I'd try to trade for him before the deadline.  He'll command a fair bit of salary on the open market, which means I would want to lose one of my youngest stars at the same time.  Even for a cup run.

     

    @radoran

    Parise is not putting up the same numbers with Minnesota as he did with New Jersey.  For one reason or another (likely the change in line mates) he's just not turning out the points as he did previously.  Vanek on the other hand, has only played for Buffalo (with the exception of this season) so we honestly don't know how well he would do elsewhere.  I will agree with @jammer2 in saying he'd be a lot more successful with better linemates.

  7. @SpikeDDS

     

    With Jimmy Howard being at the very least "up and down" this season, it may not be a bad idea to lock up a veteran goal scorer to help bolster the offense in front of him.  Tomas Vanek is not a Zack Parise, so he wouldn't command ALL of the open cap space, so it would leave room to also pick up a solid blue-liner.  Kronwall and Ericsson will always be numbers one and two.  DeKeyeser is right up there and I predict he'll end up being a huge second line pairing and even battling for top billing.  I love his play and I see shades of Nick Lidstrom in his style and his point shot.  Pairing him with a solid second line defender along with a second line scorer would be just the tick the Wings need.  That should give Jimmy Howard the breathing room he needs to stabilize his game and dust out whatever cobwebs might be in the ol' brainbox.  

  8. @jammer2

     

    Agreed on Moulson.  He's a great forward and would certainly put up more than a few goals, but he's one-way only.  Vanek would find a nice spot on the second line with Weiss and Franzen, including power play time as well.  But there's no way Tatar should be given up for Vanek.  The Wings would lose as much as they'd gain.  I wouldn't make a high-priced trade at the deadline for either player.  Let the season end.  The price would be driven extremely high for these players, most likely by teams who want to make a last ditch effort to make a dent in the postseason - Ottawa, Vancouver, etc...

     

    The Red Wings certainly have trade material with several NHL-ready young'uns.  But Tatar should not go anywhere.  Oullet, yes.  Emmerton, absolutely.  Patrick Eaves and Joaquim Andersson could go too, now that Sheahan has established himself.  Tatar stays...

     

    After all, it's Tomas Vanek.  Now John Tavares on the other hand.............

  9. @billyuk23

     

    Welcome!  Our numbers are climbing!  Glad to see you here!

     

    The interesting thing about Datsyuk is that I hope he DOESN'T play!  Think of it....  Datsyuk doesn't play in the Olympics, which means the USA has a MUCH better chance of winning gold.  At the same time, Datsyuk does not spend 2 grueling weeks in Sochi skating his guts out on a bad leg, but gets rest and additional therapy, then runs rough-shod over the league when they return. 

  10. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled they were able to put together a regulation win at home, and I realize they were exhausted from a taxing and, ultimately disappointing, road loss to the Caps on Sunday, but that was one of the most boring games I've seen this season...

     

    If it's a game of inches, Gustav Nyquist and Tomas Tatar sure know all about it.  How many times were they "that close"?  Oy...

     

    But on a related note, it looks like Tomas Vanek has rejected a contract extension from the New York Islanders.  Good move by him.  Time to see what he can garner on the free agent market.  And in my opinion, it's time to see Kenny Holland be at the front of the line to woo him with a long term contract and a hefty salary.  He'll be highly sought after, but with Alfie, Bertuzzi and Cleary likely gone after this season, and the cap going up a bit, Detroit will have Plenty O' Cash to spend.

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  11. After many weeks of calling for it by just about everyone in this forum, it looks like we'll finally get our wish (one of them, anyway).

     

    In order to make room for the returning tonight against the Caps, Henrik Zetterberg, Mike Babcock will sit Danny Cleary instead of moving down one of the rookies.

     

    Also, subbing in will be Jakub Kindl in place of Brian Lashoff.  

     

    Let's see if it works in our favor.

     

    Jimmy Howard likely starting in goal tonight.

  12. That was an outstanding performance by the Flyers last night and an outstandingly poor performance by the Red Wings.  The Flyers were everywhere.  They passed, they hit, they skated, they scored, and they won.  Simple as that.  Detroit looked slow and flat-footed all night (well though two anyway...I turned it off out of disgust, but judging by the boxscore, Things didn't get a whole lot better.  Detroit had just come of a very good homestand, taking 7 out of 10 points from some very good teams.  I don't understand why they didn't feel the need to move last night.  Too many cheesesteaks on the way to the WFC?

     

    Having a lot of our top guys out certainly leaves a rather large whole in the production, but they've been out for a long time and they've still managed to find a way to win, against teams like Chicago.  I would think that one of them would at least be able to score.  I don't mind losing, especially to a team that looked the way the Flyers looked.  They deserved that win.  But some minimal effort would be nice to at least try to make a game out of it.    

  13. @yave1964

    @SpikeDDS

     

    Good morning, Gentlemen, and Happy Monday-

     

    If what I heard from Ken and Mick in last night's broadcast is true, Samuelsson has been waived to Grand Rapids, to make room for Franzen's returning salary.  A good move on Holland's part, and something we in this forum have all been waiting for.

     

    That said, one step forward and two steps back...Zetterberg sat out last night with what was dubbed an "upper body injury" which of course, if you re-arrange the letters in that phrase you get "taking care of a sore back so it doesn't get worse for the Olympics"  I don't anticipate a long absence and that this was truly a "maintenance day" as Mike Babcock calls it.

     

     Jurco could possibly use a little more development in Grand Rapids.   I would really like to see Glendenning, and Sheahan stay.  Those two could possible give Andersson a run for his money.  And so the battle for 4th line Center begins.  Since these two have both proven themselves extremely well, dare I say that Corey Emmerton is now on the trade block?  He's a capable center and certainly worth a few draft picks.

     

    The fun part that I keep remembering from time to time is that we constantly talk about forwards.  We happen to be heavy on the blue line as well.  Anyone remember Jakub Kindl?  Where has he been?  Is he being kept in reserve until somebody starts flaking out?

  14. @Chicago Hawkie

     

    Joel Quenneville also mentioned that the Hawks didn't play the way they should.  I really didn't see too many faults in their game.  It looked like Crawford really couldn't close that hole over his shoulder.  The WIngs hit him again and agian, even in the shootout.  But the skaters looked fine to me.  The more glaring errors were on the Wings side, which Chicago clearly took advantage of.  

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