Actually, I'm a defender of Carle. I don't think he's nearly as bad defensively as some. But more importantly, I recognize the other things he brings: mobility, vision and passing, which outweigh his defenisive weaknesses. The anti-Carle crowd refuses to place any value on his considerable skating and passing skills. As for Hamonic vs Johnson. They are not the same type of D-men. I think we need Hamonic's attributes more than Johnson's. He has some snarl too, which I like. Plus he's from St. Malo, Manitoba, which I just plain like.