BearOnIce

Ok, so who do you see as the other $2M or less D man Holmgren will go after.

Yes. A lot of the job description for a C.

This is simple. Play Bryz. Period. Stop the carrousel. Bob is not better. Let Bryz implode in the woodshed himself. The players will take care of this in their own way. Bryz will want out soon enough. This is not a team that is going anywhere this year. Start figuring it out for next year. Just enjoy the games from here out that they win.

Huh? Giroux is a vet. He stands up better than anyone on that sorry team.

Howie, I was suprprised too. I thought to date that Laviolette had marching orders to play Bryz come hell or high water just to justify the investment the Flyers made. Today's move of pulling Bryz after 3 goals makes me think that Laviolette very much has ultimate decision making authority with Bryz. To me, it points more to Laviolette as very much a participent in agreeing to bring Bryz in this year, thus the responsibility big time on Lavy. Holmgren and Laviotte are attached at the hip on this Bryz debacle. Lavy's felt his offense needed a sure-fire backtender, a real upgrade, like Cam Ward, when the D got trapped up ice going into this year. Wow, who would of thought this perfect storm of the D & G would of happened this year?

Listened to his post game comments. Basically told the press when we win, you congratulate our team, when we loose you congratulate our goalies. Giroux basically said we are a team. We support our goalies. He is a stand up guy. A lot of poise for a young guy. I hope Holmgren doesn't leave Giroux out there. Step up Paul. You got work to do.

You can use it interchangeable with both Flyers goalies. I like it. Efficient.

I don't see this happeneing. Not after today when the two biggest liabilities for the Fyers, Defence and Goaltending, were exposed in a major way.

I am with you. Put the Grump part in overdrive. You could just see the team give up on those 2 shorties softies by Bryzsoftie. I still like 68 though. He ended his one goal in 13 games.

Maybe we should rethink this. Doom is now officially in overdrive. Take it to the bank.

I like #8. Bob and Bryz, double trouble. Add that to the rest of the D, and I would skate them all night.

D + G = Problems. Hope Lavy gets this mess straightened out. Fast.

You got that right.

Oh really? Then sit him. For a very long time. He is the story of the Flyers fall this year. Along with the D. I don't what is worst at this point.

I agree with you. Boy, those were the 3 worst goals I have seen let in for some time. We have a mental issue here with Bryz-not. This guy is not even really challenging the shooters. He appears disinterested, non-chalant, lacksidasical, and defeated. His eyes and body language say it all. This team has left him. Time to send him down to Adrondack and keep Bob in. Flyers management have a serious personnel issue here. Serious. I think what you said about the Phoenix defence is exactly correct.

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Take him out.

1 plays 8. Flyers will not be 8. Someone else gets to soften up the Rag's first. Beautiful.

Very cool. It is nice when the scenery is delicious!

I agree. Bye bye. These defencemen are getting astronomical money. On average much more than any of them are worth. D NHL Inflation. Carle is worth about $3M on a good day. Boy, Nashville's D looked bad against Wings. Got undressed by Pavel D.

Anyone who is defensively responsible.

I suggest the Flyers let him walk.

I do not see much for this season because the general managers with good D offerings are going to be asking a premium. More so I think Holmgren stands pat because he believes he has a good D corp. Yes, I know hard to believe. But, I believe that he feels, and obviously for political reasons, that the problem with this team's funk lies soley with the goalie position and the injury to Pronger. I would even be surprised to see the Hal Gill move. My gut tells me a lot is not being said publically, or for that matter privately, about Pronger but a lot is known. Holmgren and Pronger date back to the Hartford days. If there is no movement for a D man, something is up. Call me crazy.

Just bearly. Then tank round 1. Same old same old.

I am now in full agreement with you. Full.