SCFlyguy

Max Term. Check. Above Market Price. Check NMC/NTC. Check. Everyone saying Briere is different than past Flyer GMs can kindly shut up now.

I don't recall them being that highly ranked for that long. Maybe they were in the top 10 for a year or two, but I could be wrong. But even if it is true, isn't this making my argument for me? They had a better ranked prospect pool and still didn't get the job done. They needed more and better prospects, no? How do you propose to get them? Or you think we have enough? Or you hope we have enough and don't want to pay the price to get more?

If all three of these guys reach their predraft expectations, they will be mid. If they do not, they won't be in the NHL. These guys would be a dime a dozen in an organization with a deep prospect pool.

They haven’t won a Calder Cup since the first lockout. This is where I have a hard time taking the retool, not rebuild people seriously. The Flyers are not willing to take the pain of a rebuild to get high end talent. So we are supposed to believe they have acquired/will acquire enough mid-tier talent to make them competitive in the next five years. And yet the Phantoms are just as mid-tier (at best) in the AHL as the Flyers in the NHL! So where is all this talent that is supposedly going to make this team good? It’s not on the Phantoms.

I am the bandleader here since 2021 for going full rebuild. I am saying we should trade Konecny and Laughton while they still have value, since they don’t fit into any conceivable timeline in which the Flyers could be good. That trading these two players, one a marginal star and the other just marginal, could be considered stripping everything out of the roster is as much an indictment of this organization as anything.

Different sport with different cap and dynamic, but Ainge helped build the foundation of that team (Brown and Tatum) with the picks and assets he got for trading Garnett and Pierce to Brooklyn. At that time, Garnett and Pierce were former champions who could have gotten the Celtics to the playoffs comfortably for several more years, but Ainge realized they were not going to win anything and it was going to be diminishing returns going forward, so he turned these aging assets into younger, better players. This is what we should do with Konecny. The Sixers haven't lost because of the Process; they lost because they squandered the treasure trove of assets they had over the years on terrible picks (Simmons, Fultz), trades (Bridges), and FA signings (Harris over Butler). And plenty of terrible coaching and flawed stars.

This reads like a kid's fan fiction. "Then Couturier will score one million goals and fly to the sun to stop the sun monsters and he will be my friend forever."

Lol, I posted that before reading all of Briere's quotes about how Michkov needs to learn how to play a 200ft game and Torts is going to teach him.

Poor kid doesn't know what he's getting himself into.

They have to get out from under Fletcher’s bad deals so they can sign bad deals of their own.

Great depth? Half those guys will make zero impact in the NHL.

This future looks a lot like the last 15 years: not making the playoffs or one and done.

I am not an expert on the kids like some of our Canadian posters and I trust @flyercanuck. All I know is I get nervous when the Flyers draft a guy that no one else saw going in that slot, like Morin. Picking up an extra 3rd in 2025 is not a rebuild.

When you don't rebuild properly, all your picks become "must succeed" picks. This is where they have been for 15 years.

Heck, I would give up one of the 24 picks for more 25 picks.