SCFlyguy

9 hours ago, hmc687 said:

 

It is odd and disturbing how many posters here, presumably men, are already projecting Hart guilty of any and all charges.  This only reinforces my point that when a man is charged w sexual assault it does severe damage regardless of trial outcome.  And this has already ruined 1 professional career (that we know of) but I'm sure many more.

 

Anyhow, I'll wait till the hearing plays out before making accusations.  The only information available right now are just stories because nobody really knows anything yet.  And reading grown men get emotional and angry about stories is a good laugh

Laughing about stories of sexual assault is a reason it doesn’t get reported.  Boys will be boys, eh?

6 hours ago, flyerrod said:

Due to the length of time from the original investigation. I am not saying the original investigation was done correctly but why did it take 4 or 5 years to correct it? I can think of 83 million reasons why false accusations can and are made.

It took 4-5 years to correct it because those in charge had to be publicly embarrassed by leaks into taking the investigation seriously.  Had that not happened, it never would have been done correctly.  It would have been settled confidentially, with a payment of over $3M, in an effort to make the story go away.

4 hours ago, GratefulFlyers said:

Top 10 by Win % since early November is a lot of games to be "playing over their heads."

Hang a banner in the rafters.

Nothing derailed the team.

9 hours ago, radoran said:

Really like this deal for the cost, not so much the term.

Yeah, this would be great if it were 5 or 6 years.

Also, according to most research, the number of people falsely accused of rape/sexual assault are absolutely dwarfed by the number of actual victims who don't bother to report it or press charges.

3 hours ago, hmc687 said:

 

Whole thing is nuts.  Todd Bertuzzi paralyzed a guy and never did time.  Carter, and the other players, are stil involved in a sexual assault case in 2024 from 2018 - its wild.  Especially considering the Ontario police cleared Hart. . . . .

You're neglecting the fact that Hart and the other players were "cleared" by what apparently was a sham police investigation nearly intended to clear them.

7 hours ago, hmc687 said:

We'll see what the court finds, but I won't be calling for Hart to be thrown in jail "like the rest of them" until the trial ends.  Wrongful accusations DO happen.  People lie.  Money complicates things.

Why do I think you won't be even after the trial ends?

Not presuming Hart was involved or not involved - I wouldn't know - I am and have been presuming for some time that he wouldn't be the starting goalie for this team when it was finally a contender.  You have to know when to cash in assets and I didn't think the Hart asset was going to be worth more in the future.

We should have traded him when we had the chance.  Another asset wasted.

Thank god for Torts.

This is a very easy team to root for that is starting to get me over my hatred of the organization.

I think they should trade Walker and Seeler at the deadline and hope it doesn't tank the playoffs.  It would be great to see them playing with house money.  Absent any no-brainer deals, everything else can wait for the offseason. 

40 years and not one player they lost over money.  Doesn't that say something to you other than "open the checkbook."

I knew you were going to say Patrick Sharp.  They didn't trade Patrick Sharp over money.  Try again.  I am waiting, but you won't come up with one, because there are none.

Like, I'm actually enraged that a supposed Flyer fan would think that this team's problem has been they've been stingy paying players over the years.  I'm just going to assume that @GratefulFlyersjust woke up in 2022 from 40 years in hibernation.

You're like a kid who just mowed his first lawn and is going to blow it all on candy.

4 hours ago, GratefulFlyers said:

Obviously it'll come down to what he wants/expects but I would err on the side of keeping him. The Flyers have been down the penny-wise-pound-foolish road often enough I hope they don't mistake the same mistake with Tippett.

This is absolutely a delusional thing to say.  Name a single Flyer since 1990 who was "due" for a big contract where the team failed to pay them the money and they went on to make the Flyers regret it.  Go ahead.  I am going to wait.

The truth is exactly the opposite:  I can name dozens of players the Flyers paid, because they thought they needed a player, then regretted it later.

It’s also absolutely not sustainable from year to year.

If the team isn’t selling on UFAs (and maybe some others) at the deadline, it is a huge mistake.

All of those guys should be gone with the possible exception of Laughton.

Agree the window doesn’t open up for at least two years, so retention doesn’t matter during that period.

3 hours ago, mojo1917 said:

So shut up and dribble then?

Lol, asking the players to do their jobs and not to mope even though the organization traded away their bff is not the same as trying to keep the players from making a political statement.

3 hours ago, mojo1917 said:

It's reasonable to wonder what the message received by the Farabees and Tippetts is if he's dealt when they're in the 1st wildcard spot.

I think it is unreasonable to wonder this.  It's simply not their job to receive messages.  If these guys decide they are fine with losing, they should be the next ones shown the door.

The Giroux teams didn't lose because they had accepted losing.  They lost because they didn't have enough talent and the bosses kept thinking that they did.

3 hours ago, Fuzz said:

You can believe what you want to believe...........

I choose not to believe serial liar Bob Clarke.

1 hour ago, Fuzz said:

That's very true.  However from what I hear most of the Flyers scouts were telling him to pick Makar instead of Patrick.

This is make believe.

Is Fletcher still working on fixing the D or should we stop waiting for that @tucson83