Sens lose draft pick, GM Dorian Fired

[Brewin Flames]

Senators forfeit draft pick over invalidated Evgenii Dadonov trade

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  Greg Wyshynski, ESPNNov 1, 2023, 01:49 PM ET

 

The Ottawa Senators will forfeit a first-round draft pick for their role in the July 2021 trade of Evgenii Dadonov to the Golden Knights and the subsequently invalidated March 2022 deal that would have sent Dadonov from Las Vegas to the Ducks.

 

Ottawa will forfeit its first-round draft pick in one of the 2024, 2025 or 2026 NHL drafts. The Senators will make that determination within 24 hours of the conclusion of the draft lottery that season.

 

In March 2022, the Golden Knights traded Dadonov to the Ducks along with a conditional second-round pick for defenseman John Moore and the contract of forward Ryan Kesler. But hours after the trade was announced, Vegas said it had "become aware of an issue with respect to the trade" and was consulting with the league office about it.

 

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The issue surrounded Dadonov's limited no-trade clause in his contract, which he signed in October 2020 with the Senators.

 

The clause indicated that Dadonov couldn't be traded without first submitting a 10-team no-trade list.

 

The Ducks were on a previously submitted no-trade list to Ottawa. But when the Golden Knights traded for Dadonov in July 2021, there was no mention of the trade protection on the trade call with the Senators and the NHL. Therefore, it was not acknowledged when Vegas completed the trade with Anaheim.

 

Golden Knights management met with the NHL in 2022 about the situation, seeking some level of discipline for the Senators.

 

"We appreciate the league's diligence on this matter and respect the decision," the Golden Knights said Wednesday in a statement.

 

Las Vegas traded Dadonov to the Montreal Canadiens in June 2022 for the contract of defenseman Shea Weber.

 

Dadonov has played for the Dallas Stars for the past two seasons. He has played 493 games in 10 NHL seasons, scoring 301 points.

[Brewin Flames]

Dorion out as Senators GM, replaced by Staios

Held role since 2016; Ottawa forfeited 1st-round pick Wednesday for invalidated trade of Dadonov

 

ByNHL.com

@NHLdotcom

3:31 PM

Pierre Dorion was relieved of his duties as general manager of the Ottawa Senators on Wednesday.

 

The 51-year-old was replaced by Steve Staios, the president of hockey operations who will be interim GM during the search for a permanent replacement.

 

Dorion joined the Senators in 2007 as a scout, was named director of player personnel in 2009 and assistant GM in 2014. He succeeded Bryan Murray on April 10, 2016, when Murray announced he was stepping down.

 

Ottawa qualified for the Stanley Cup Playoffs once during Dorion's tenure as GM, in 2016 when they advanced within one game of the Stanley Cup Final, losing to the Pittsburgh Penguins in overtime in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Final.

 

The Senators were 225-261-59 under Dorion, and had a 13-point improvement last season (86 points) from 2021-22 (73 points).

 

The NHL on Wednesday announced the Senators would forfeit a first-round draft pick for their role in the trade of forward Evgenii Dadonov to the Vegas Golden Knights on July 28, 2021, and the subsequent, invalidated trade of Dadonov to the Anaheim Ducks by the Golden Knights on March 21, 2022.

 

Ottawa will forfeit its first-round pick in either the 2024, 2025 or 2026 NHL Draft. The determination as to which pick will be forfeited will be made by the Senators within 24 hours of the conclusion of the NHL Draft Lottery for that year.

 

 

 

[Icechipper]

What was Dorion's role, if any, with the Pinto suspension? Was weird to watch Pinto sit as a unsigned UFA then slammed with a suspension.

Edited November 1, 2023 by Icechipper

[yave1964]

19 hours ago, Icechipper said:

What was Dorion's role, if any, with the Pinto suspension? Was weird to watch Pinto sit as a unsigned UFA then slammed with a suspension.

Kinda wondering the same, whether he tried to hide what pinto had done or was obstructing the investigation. That whole situation still has a foul odor.

  He made so many dreadful trades and signings, trading a ransom for Debrincat then recouping about eighty cents on the dollar the most recent. long term deals to players too much too soon. 

  But his first move should have gotten him fired on the spot. He dealt Zibenajad AND a second rounder for Derick Brassard. 

Other trades, young very good goalie Filip Gustafson for one very average year from the husk of Cam Talbot, (that one is for you @TropicalFruitGirl26 lol). God what an awful deal. He dealt Nicholas Paul for an ok player in Mathieu Joseph who he spent all off-season trying to dump the contract he signed Joseph to. He traded for Derek Stepan and his 6.5 million dollar contract from the coyotes who were broke and desperate and took on the whole contract. Did the same with gudbtanson when the ducks could no longer afford his 4 million per season. He gave up a second rounder to Pittsburgh for Matt Murray then signed him to a horrid long contract. He drug out trading mark stone and when he finally pulled the trigger all he got were two picks who bombed and brainstorm who is still fighting daily for an NHL job. He traded for Duchene waaaayyyyy overpaid.

 He did massively win the Karlsson deal getting top six center Josh Norris and the pick that turned into Stutzle. He also deserves credit for drafting extremely well

 His free agent signings were as bad as his trades, korpisalo will not live up to his five year deal. Most years he signed drl Zotto or hainsey or that type on one or two year deals and of course they had nothing left so the next year he signed another one just like them 

  The Karlsson deal must be factored in but he was terrible at cap management, and for every Karlsson deal there were half a dozen of Stone, Murray, Zibenajad, Duchene, Debrincat trade one and Debrincat trade two. 

  Glad he is gone. I love the young core he built through the draft but if he stuck around he would surely screw it up by trading a couple away