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1 hour ago, yave1964 said:
Love when you rant about your beloved Oilers lol. I do the same about the disaster that Holland left in Detroit.
As far as personel Edmonton by far brought McDavid into a better roster. Chicago has drafted poorly and when 24 and 25 year olds work out like the Cat and Dach they trade them. The roster is a mess. I don't hate Korchinski but he as a rookie is set up for failure as arguably their second best defenseman. Huge difference between the Hall who played Wing with McDavid and the free floating paycheck stealing 3rd line Hall who will be playing on beards wing. Perry and foligno cannot contribute anymore. This team does not have five players on the roster who will ever make the playoffs with Bedard. Just a sad wreck
I personally thought Hall and McDavid were bad linemates as both styles didn't mesh well. but Hall Draisaitl was solid.
Hall McDavid was like.....Gretzky and Hull. Good on paper, but something was way off and it didn't work lol
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On 8/31/2023 at 11:36 AM, yave1964 said:
PREVIOUS SEASON 23-47-12 58 Points, worst record in Hockey. minus 129 goal differential, worst in the game. By far.
ADDITIONS Drafted Leo Karlsson with the second pick in the draft. Signed Killorn away from the Bolts. Brought some snarl to the back end with Gudas and Hagg. Drysdale missed the season will return this season. Rugged Lybushkin came aboard in a trade from Buffalo.
SUBTRACTIONS Shattenkirk, Comtois and Stolarz are all vets who were given a copy of the home game and shown the door.
KIDS IN THE SYSTEM Dostal is a real deal goalie prospect stuck behind Gibson. Helleson will crack the blueline this year along with Mintyukov and Lacombe. All are skilled and along with Drysdale give the Ducks tremendous hope for the future of the back end. Leo Carlsson brings elite skill to combine with McTavish and Zegras giving them an insane amount of skill down the middle. Olen Zellweger is yet another fantastic defense prospect who will likely play in the AHL while Benoit Olivier Grouix is a solid B level prospect at center who was second in the AHL in scoring last year and is beating on the door for a roster spot.
SO ARE THEY GOING TO FINISH DED LAST AGAIN THIS YEAR? No, not even last in their own division. They are talented and deep and raw, not ready to contend but their is light at the end of the tunnel.
When i look at a team, i look at their top five, three frowards and two blueliners and kind of see where i see the team in relation to others. Ducks top five are
Terry...Zegras....McTavish....Fowler...Drysdale.
That is a bottom third top five with upside. The top five rank about 20th, 21st among all teams but could massively move up in a year or so.
HOWEVER
After that you have
Carlsson...Zellweger....Killorn...Mintyukov...Helleson
Lots of teams have a better top five. Lots and lots. Very few have a better second five. And this team is young hungry and full of incredible upside.
I believe they will be raw and ugly and finish sixth this year, Carlsson may spend the year in the A, but 2024-25 is when they make their move. I see them where the Kings were two years ago, drafted well, took their lumps and ready to start bearing fruit. Lots to like with this team going forward. 6th place realistic.
The kings appear to be filling their holes with trades and UFA's. Dubois, Fiala, Danault, Gavrikov, while still leaning on Kopitar and Doughty
Who did they draft well that is bearing fruit other than Kempe and Vilardi? They drafted Cernak but traded him for Ben Bishop. Matt Roy is "ok"....and that's it since 2014 for 9 years of drafting lol
Kaliev is showing a bit of potential. Byfield has potential but it should be showing by now. Turcotte REALLY should be showing by now. Clarke is going to need a few more years.
The ducks have some significantly better looking draft picks showing bearing fruit lol
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On 8/31/2023 at 5:41 PM, notfondajane said:
They gave up to much for Karlsson! I wanted them to keep the 2 1st round picks. In hopes they would pan out so the Pens could build a team that would compete for a Cup or 2.
You only gave up 1 first round pick and gave us a ton of cap dumps mate.
you gave montreal a 2nd to take Petry
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On 8/31/2023 at 11:54 AM, yave1964 said:
PREVIOUS SEASON 40-31-11 91 Points, missed playoffs by one point with a fatal disastrous loss in the seasons final game to the Blackhawks. minus 2 goal differential
ADDITIONS Well start with Karlsson who brings 100 points on the blueline to a team in need of offense. Ryan Graves is as underrated a defensive blueliner as the game has. Reilly Smith joins the middle six. Noel Acciari and Lars Eller help solidify what was a very weak 4th line. Andreas Johnsson will be given a chance to replace Zucker. Nedjelkovic is the new backup goalie. Lots of additional depth pieces like Nieto and Pitlick join the club.
DEPARTURES Petry is gone to Detroit via Montreal. Dumoulin and Rutta are also gone from the back end. Granlund was moved out to bring in Karlsson. Zucker is now in Arizona. DeSmith is a Hab. Heinen, Bonino and Kulikov all looked old and slow and all are gone.
KIDS IN THE SYSTEM Sam Poulin is about it, a winger with 3rd line skill at best who may make the team unless they find a way to sign Tatar. Pittsburgh cupboard is bare. There is nothing in the system even close to playing in the NHL.
SO ALL THESE MOVES ARE THEY CUP CONTENDERS AGAIN? AFTER ALL, THEY MISSED THE PLAYOFFS BY ONLY ONE POINT
Man i want to say yes, i really do. I believe they are better than last year but the problem is several other clubs are as well. This oer the hill gang has about a three year window if everything breaks right, Letang, Crosby and Malkin are all in their own ways showing signs of age, Karlsson is right in the same group.
They are better, but so are several other clubs. I think they will fight to the last week of the season against Boston and Buffalo for the final playoff spot and fall just short with Boston having just enough to send Pittsburgh home without a playoff spot for the second straight year. It is now a young mans game built around speed and youth, Pittsburgh is the opposite and IMHO the Karlsson trade and resigning Jarry to a five year extention will prove to be mistakes. Painfully close but just short. Again.
I agree, but They show their age funny.
Crosby is scoring and has all the same metrics as ever.
Malkin just had his best offensive season in 5 years.
Karlsson just had a career year for points
Letang is the one I worry for healthwise. But Karlsson was basically insurance for this possibility
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On 8/29/2023 at 11:59 AM, Math said:
@yave1964 @J0e Th0rnton I hope you guys are as good in predictions as in fantasy lol.
Very good points as always. As I tend to search for scratches on a marble floor, the Stars still lack a legit top-4 Dman to give flexibility and options on the PP. They didn't have the cap space to do that and the market was dry anyway. At least they didn't overpay some declining vet but on the other hand they didn't consider a Suter buyout, which I was ok with (probably next year). Suter should never see any PP time ever and I hope Harley will fill this role if he's trending the right direction like he was during last season's playoffs. It's still a true pain in the àss and a waste to see Heiskanen being forced to play on his weak side because of Suter. But DeBoer LOVES him so there's that...
The offense offers more options and strength. Benn had a surprising rebound year and has a good connection with Dadonov. About "Big Daddy", I'm more relying on him for the postseason as he tends to be a bit of a lazyass when it doesn't count. Still, a significant improvement over Gurianov (thanks Montréal). Faksa had a terrible season and it can't be worse this year. I'm more worried about Seguin: it's heartbreaking to see him play. He's not the same after his hip surgery. Slow, losing every battle, trying to do things he can't do anymore. It's sad because he's truly trying, but the body doesn't follow and it's a miracle if he can play at that level. His role in the future should be limited to take some important Fo and stay in the crease to go for garbage goals and deflections in the Pavelski style. But at $9.85M AAV for the next four years, it hurts. But I don't think he will make it to the end and he will be likely put on the LTIR list at some point. Marchment was a big disappointment, let's hope for a rebound.
In the net, I hope Öttinger won't be overworked like he was last season. He's still a force and an elite NHL goalie, but he was barely average during the playoffs. I hope Wedgewood gets more starts but he needs to be more consistant.
About the prospects: Stankoven should stay in the AHL unless the Stars face major and numerous injuries. I'm curious about Stranges, which is under the radar but showed pretty good skills with the London Knights. I have high hopes on Bichsel too with the objective to see him with the big club within one or two seasons and become a sort of Häkänpää of riches to be paired with Heiskanen.
On a side note, I will try to apologize to Johnston's parents. I met them in Centre Bell last October when the Stars played in Montréal and I told them stuff like "well you know, dont be disappointed if he's sent back to the Juniors after his 9-game tryout, it's a learning process, maybe he can have a spot later on, blah blah blah..." And yeah, the more Johnston was scoring, the more I felt bad.
We tend to be lol.
I mean I whiff on a lot of my projections, but look like a genius on others.
In Fantasy im known for sucking at drafting in the first few rounds and my picks looking stupid and then having better 4th-9th round picks and a good eye for youth on the waiver wire haha
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28 minutes ago, yave1964 said:
With his draft history your boys are probably better off without the draft picks lol. Nobody needs remind you of Zboril, DeBrusk and Senyshin instead of Barzal, Chabot and Kyle Connor. You cannot even call it hindsight, Bruins fans were screaming bloody murder at the draft.
Ill never forget the amount of WTF at boston Pizza during this draft.
My work buds and I were sinking drinks, and i was wanting Werensky bad. but then Columbus took him and we got Timo, which i was ok with
But when the bruins 3 picks came up, the one guy sitting at the bar in the Lucic jersey....everyone in the bar kept looking at him to see his reaction and we were all going "WTF? hahaha"
To be fair, Zboril was ranked higher than Chabot by most folks.
but Debrusk was slated as a later 1st by most rankings and Senyschin was ranked mid 2nd round and nobody knew WTF Sweeney was thinking. If they liked Senyschin that much they probably could have got him by trading up the brandon Carlo pick.
Barzal and Connor were both guys who often made it into top 10 rankings and usually were at latest, 15th. It was the deepest draft of ALL TIME for high end talent, so rankings were muddier than usual for the top 20. And yes, that draft is going to go down as the deepest of all time. I know 2003 is the gold standard because so many guys played 500+ games from 2003, but if you look at how many guys have already played 250+ games from the 2015 gang, its pretty solid. Some emerging superstars haven't even played 250 games or just passed that number this past season due to starting the NHL later. Roope hintz, Kaprisov, Troy Terry, Thomas Novak....damn that was a great draft year. Connor McDavid needs 30 or so more points and he would be the 5th highest scoring player from the 2003 draft.
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3 hours ago, Brewin Flames said:
Bingo @yave1964
Bingo @pilldoc
Too much gone, not enough coming in....
Lost two top centers, no depth in pipeline and to be quite honest, i'm looking at a trainwreck dumpster fire, non playoff team, esp now that Pasta got paid and his two binkies are gone, he's gonna be a lazy sack o Sh$t floater.
I hope i'm wrong but i'm looking forward to a high 1st round pick in 2024....wait, dammit Sweeney sent them all packing.
Still my team though....
Will they repeat? no of course not. But Zacha was ahead of Krejci on the charts and lines to end last season. He plays a 200 foot game and could be a good #2 Center who grows into a #1 Center....and his skills are FINALLY blossoming and him and Lawson Crouse were expected to be the slower developer power forwards of the 2015 Draft class, alongside Timo Meier. Debrusk started breaking out last year too
JVR/Zacha/Pasta
Marchand/Coyle/Debrusk
To me that isn't a bad top 6 at all. Losing Krejci almost doesn't matter because I felt Coyle was better anyways by this stage. Losing Bergeron was an enormous loss. No question.
Fabian Lysell.....man that kid can skate. He reminds me of Pavel Bure with that acceleration.
The 3rd and 4th line of the Bruins is where it gets sketchy. Lucic....lol
Did they get him hoping Bergeron would decide "Maybe 1 more year?"
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2 hours ago, yave1964 said:
LAST SEASON 47-21-14 108 POINTS SECOND IN DIVISION. Beat the Wild in six relatively easy games, bested the Kraken in a tough seven game series, lost the conference final to eventual cup winner Vegas in six hard fought games. Plus 67 goal differential the best in the Western conference
ADDITIONS Matt Duchene came aboard after being bought out in Nashville. Sam Steel joins the bottom six, Craig Smith provides depth.
A quick aside, one thing about this Jim Nill team that strikes me is how many players can play not only up and down the lineup but can play center or wing as well. Hintz, Pavelski, Steel, Duchene, Seguin, Benn, Dellandrea. It gives coach Deboer so much flexibility when it comes to setting lines. In an age when teams are desperate for center help they have seven or eight guys who can plug into the middle or on the wing giving them a massive advantage over most other teams.
SUBTRACTIONS Domi and Glendening moved on after the season, Domi to Toronto and Glendening to Colorado. About it.
IN THE PIPELINE Dellandrea is a sure fire real deal forward who played in the NHL al year last year and is a very real possibility to have a breakthrough season. Kid Logan Stankoven may play in the AHL this year but with a great showing could crack the team and is a fantastic playmaker and a top notch prospect. Thomas Harley will be a top four defender this year and if he gets a chance to work the first power play will surprise with his offensive talent. Matej Blumel is a real deal scorer but has been in and out of the doghouse in the AHL because he is a bit of a floater but the talent is certainly there. Mavric Bourque may have to return to the AHL because there is simply no room for him at the NHL level but the kid is a fantastic pivot who should slot into a 2C role in the NHL for a decade or more.
Usually when a team drafts so late as Dallas always seems to do they slip into mediocrity because of it but Nill was the true brains behind the great Redwings drafts that Holland always got the credit for (this as soon as Nill left, Holland crapped the bed with his picks for years before moving on) and he contnues to bring his fantastic drafting skills with him to Dallas. Jason Robertson 39th, Oettinger late in the first, Hintz a second rounder. The new batch of kids is talented and pushing up against the older players. This team is very talented top to bottom.
SO, ARE THEY CUP CONTENDERS? God yeah, no doubt about it. I think they win the Division this year and battle Edmonton into the final days for the best record in the West. Top flight goalie? Check. Elite minute munching defenseman and defensive depth? Check. Forwards coming out of the woodwork, throwing four lines at you? Absolute check. There is no reason that this club cannot contend for years to come. Even with Pavelski, Seguin and Benn being much closer to the end than the beginning the organizational depth is astounding, all three could call it a career right now and the team might slip a bit for a year while the kids acclimated to the NHL but then they would be right back on top. I have crazy mad respect for Nill and think this is one of the very best organizations from top to bottom. They very easily could win a cup this year.
Wyatt Johnston has the it factor. He scored 24 goals and 41 points at age 19 and has high IQ and his takeaways remind me of Mark Stone. Potential Selke caliber future. Just a gem. They definitely mean to keep him at C. hell, he ended the year as 2nd line C on a cup contender. His FOW will need work, but there is always that adjustment period from juniors and he did damn good for a rookie 19 year old.
He's living with the Pavelski's.
I don't think he will explode this year, but he has the potential to knock Hintz down to 2nd line in 2025 and line up with Robertson when Pavelski's contract is up. For now when Hintz has his usual fragile injuries, they will probably keep putting Pavs back at C and rotating up one of Seguin or Benn.
The thing I noticed most last year is, he was lining up mostly with Benn and Dellandrea to start the year, but when musical chairs started on line 2 and 3, he moved up to line 2 and stayed there..... stayed on 2nd line and Benn would get bumped for Seguin or Dadonov
Dellandrea was drafted 3 years earlier(13th overall 2018) and higher in the 1st round, but his icetime reduced as the season progressed, while Johnston's increased(23rd overall 2021).
Robertson/Pavelski/Hintz
Benn/Johnston/Dadonov
Marchment/Seguin/Duchene
Steel/Faska/Smith
I don't see a universe where Stankoven cracks that Roster this year unless a couple of injuries happen early and they give him a 9 game tryout.
Harley will get a crack beside Suter on PP2, but not PP1 with Heiskanen there. Not with Deboer coaching.
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9 hours ago, yave1964 said:
FINAL RECORD 35-37-10 80 points, 12th in conference, 12 points out of a playoff spot
ADDITIONS Max Pacioretty will spend much of his time on IR for the Capitals this season. He is the only addition. Oh I guess boring third pair defender Edmonson coming over from Montreal might count
SUBTRACTIONS Depth forwards Sheary, Craig Smith and Connor Brown all left, depth defenders Irwin and Pilon as well. At the deadline they dealt key players Hathaway, Orlov and Eller.
IN THE SYSTEM Connor McMichael and Beck Malynstyn are nhl depth forwards, Alexander Alexyev will be handed a third pair spot on the blueline with no evidence that he is much of a player.
IMHO this is the worst farm system in the game today which bodes poorly for an aging Capitals team.
THE QUESTION, ARE THEY A BOUNCE BACK CANDIDATE? no, not much of a chance. They are an aging club with very few NHL ready depth players and no impact players in the organization. Ovie is in the middle of his drive towards breaking the all time goal record held by Gretzky, At least the Cap fans have that to watch nightly. Backstrom is getting old and fragile. Mantha is doing the same even moreso. Tom Wilson just missed 49 games and is on the wrong side of 30 so they signed him to an extention thru 2031, because of course they did. They fired a coach who always gets the most out of their players Kuznetsov asked for a trade then angrilly denied that he did and then said well, i sorta asked for a trade. Oshie is a shell of his former self because of his hard style of play. Carlson is 33 and breaking down. Kuemper at 33 in the first year of a five year deal actually was surprisingly good but is aging, Lindgren his backup came out of nowhere to play very well last year but is no kid, it took until he was 29 to establish himself as a fringe backup goalie.
Things could break right, all of these guys could stay healthy and rediscover the touch that they once had but it is son extremely unlikely. I have them with around 82 points, 7th in the Division.
Its actually very rare for forwards to still be superstar players after age 35.
Usually, someone cerebral with sense and vision can extend it a bit longer, but if they relied on skating, reflexes, physicality and shot, you see a drop earlier.
That team is ooooold and some of the guys have a lot of miles on their bodies.
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4 hours ago, Podein25 said:
Oh, trust me, I blame Lindros lol. Why, I blame him for everything.
Yeah it's weird the head down thing. I cannot think of another player ever who just habitually skated around with his head down like that. It really is a miracle that he made it out of Bantam.
He was big and strong enough to steamroll anyone in bantam.
That's the problem. He got used to it. Once he was playing with the big boys, he was unprepared
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On 7/5/2023 at 7:04 PM, Podein25 said:
AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE C STANDS FOR
C-U-N-
(not you, of course)
cunnilin.....family site mate
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On 7/9/2023 at 9:45 AM, flyercanuck said:
Yes, both our teams are currrently in the same boat. Seems strange nobody is giving him a shot.
22 hours ago, jammer2 said:I think nobody is responding cause he's still a tweener. Even the crappy teams have a real good idea of who their top 6 is comprised of. So, you scrap one of those 6 for a guy who HAS to be in the top 6 or he's useless. Even then, your hoping the offense comes? Betting he also wants a 1 way deal, which is uncommon for a reclamation project. Teams just don't need the headache to take the 10% bet Stevie was wrong.
And boom he signs with the Sharks.
1.1 million for 1 year. Cheap, no risk. I like it, even if I don't particularly like him.
On 7/9/2023 at 9:03 AM, J0e Th0rnton said:His ideal signing spot would be a team lacking stars and bursting with top 6 opportunity.
I'm actually surprised the sharks didn't claim him given our capspace, his young age and small caphit. Granted he had opportunity on the wings and maybe GMs see its not worth trying. But sharks go nowhere for a few years anyways
Our top 6 is Hertl + Couture + whoever at this point.
Barabanov, Duclair and Labanc round out the rest of our top 5
Eklund is gunning for a spot but may need another year. Will Smith? Doubt he makes the team yet, but its possible. Jacob petersen looked decent in his 11 games
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3 hours ago, hmc687 said:
Gotta be something under the surface otherwise SOME team wouldve taken a flyer. Its nuts that NOBODY wanted a free 6OA for a year or two? Yeah something is fishy
The words "attitude" and "full of himself" came up a lot when it came to his draft year. He was expected to go earlier than he did in the draft.
He wasn't happy when he went to grand rapids and didn't make the team lol
That was his draft year though.
By the sounds of it, he would have refused to play AHL this season
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9 hours ago, hmc687 said:
Any rebuilding team, including Philly, should at the very least offer a PTO. The success Seattle had w Tolvanen is a perfect example that salvation is possible. Not saying Zadina or Tolvnen will be elite top wingers but mid 6 contributors is realistic and probable for Tolvanen
His ideal signing spot would be a team lacking stars and bursting with top 6 opportunity.
I'm actually surprised the sharks didn't claim him given our capspace, his young age and small caphit. Granted he had opportunity on the wings and maybe GMs see its not worth trying. But sharks go nowhere for a few years anyways
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6 hours ago, Podein25 said:
Lol, cool.
Ok, so who was his center in Halifax? Was it Parent?
Because maybe it's his center or other linemates that explains Z's 44 goals in 58 GP as a 17/18 year old, which is pretty good even in the Q.
No, parent was on the lower lines then. I didn't work in the arena at the time so I didn't watch as many games. watched 6 to 8 a year back then.
But the games I did go to I just never got wowed by zadina and i said as much at the time. Solid but unspectacular. I was usually wowed by others. He usually played with fortier and somppi from what I recall, but they line blended a lot
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6 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:
Parent ended up being ECHL fodder is all yikes...
Yeah he was 15 at the time and I figured he would grow a few inches. He was dynamic at a young age but struggled as time went on.
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15 hours ago, Podein25 said:
Wierd. 'Cause his numbers in Halifax, his only year in the Q after playing 25 games in the Czech pro league, are simply
outstanding:
https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/236471/filip-zadina
On 3/3/2018 at 11:05 AM, J0e Th0rnton said:Zadina is good, but does not blow me away.
Xavier Parent will be a gem next year.
2020??? I thought laf was next year
Old convo lol
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I was never a big zadina fan when he was with the mooseheads.
I remember being more impressed with Xavier Parent, who tragically never grew bigger than 5 foot 6
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2 hours ago, pilldoc said:
Free-agent defenseman Shayne Gostisbehere signed with the Detroit Red Wings on a one-year, $4.125 million deal, league sources told The Athletic on Saturday. Here’s what you need to know:
- Gostisbehere, 30, tallied 41 points (13 goals, 28 assists) in 75 games with the Arizona Coyotes and Carolina Hurricanes last season.
- Arizona traded him to Carolina on March 1 in exchange for a 2026 third-round NHL Draft pick.
Gostisbehere is the latest free agent signing for the Red Wings on Saturday. Detroit also inked J.T. Compher to a five-year, $25.5 million contract.
What does signing Gostisbehere mean for Detroit?
It should certainly help their power play, and bring more offense from the back-end in general. Gostisbehere has reached double-digit goals in each of the last two seasons, and four times in his career. That will help significantly, and looks like the short-term replacement for Filip Hronek in that regard (and, by the same token, part of the bridge to first-round pick Axel Sandin Pellikka).
There is some question as to whether Detroit is overcrowded on the left side, with Jake Walman, Olli Määttä and Ben Chiarot all back, and prospects Simon Edvinsson and Albert Johansson pushing for time. But Chiarot could play the right side, and Edvinsson is currently recovering from shoulder surgery, so that may not be a pressing issue on opening night.
Bottom line: Gostisbehere will help Detroit create more from the blue line, and on a very manageable deal.
Seider's fantasy value takes a hit though.
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21 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:
Klingberg signs with the Laffs.
They need defense and go find a guy who can't play defense. lol
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2 hours ago, pilldoc said:
Great minds think alike ..... I thought of @J0e Th0rnton too. He is thanking his lucky stars he traded him when he did .....
Now the bigger question ..... does Pens keep him as a Keeper .... LOL
Jarry is still unsigned lol.
I'm solid with McDavid, zibanejad
Hellebuyck might get traded, but he's elite no matter where.
Now it's old man Crosby, swayman , jarry for my final choices
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3 minutes ago, pilldoc said:
Interesting BOTH Raanta and Andersen resign with the Canes ........
Will be a 3 ring circus in Carolina with regards to goalies ....where does Koch line-up with these guys. Thought for sure either Raanta or Andersen would not be back...
Well Raanta is GUARANTEED to get hurt somewhere ......
Man. Trading kochetkov in hindsight worked put for me well in the keeper league lol
Blackwood resigns with the sharks eh? The tank commander has arrived. Slackin for Macklin
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Doesn't really matter as he is not making it past #4 when the sharks draft him lol
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On 6/17/2023 at 9:24 AM, pilldoc said:
The entire hockey world knew that the Vancouver Canucks were stuck. Vancouver was the only team in the league that had already exceeded the $83.5 million projected upper limit in contractual commitments for next season. And...to boot ....the Nucks still had RFAs left to sign.
The buyout will instantly free up roughly $7.1 million in cap space this summer and $4.9 million for 2024-25. However, the savings taper off in future years, which is why a buyout only made sense if executed now. This flexibility will come at a significant cost, however, as OEL will have a dead cap hit on Vancouver’s books until 2031. Ouch!
Here is the breakdown ......
The OEL buyout carries a cap hit of:
Year 1: 147K (7.1M savings)
Year 2: 2.35M (4.9M savings)
Year 3 & 4: 4.77M (2.5M savings)
Year 5-8: 2.13M cap hit and will also carry a small cap hit for 8 years.In January, Canucks president of hockey operations Jim Rutherford said that the organization would look into buyouts if they were unable to move money. In that press conference, Rutherford mentioned how the club was pursuing a quick retool rather than a rebuild, and that the front office wouldn’t be able to turn the team around until they solved the cap situation to give themselves flexibility.
For reference, According to CapFriendly, Ekman-Larsson’s buyout is the sixth largest ever in terms of the salary Vancouver will owe .
In all fairness the Vincent Lecavalier, Rick DiPietro, Ilya Bryzgalov and Brad Richards buyouts were all compliance buyouts executed in 2013 and 2014, which means they did not have any impact on their respective teams’ salary cap situation.
I am by no means a Canucks fan, but I think they need a rebuild over a "re-tooling".
I like how this screws over Arizona LOL
Arizona LOVES being the guys who will retain salary to get better deals or be middlemen. Problem is, you are only allowed retaining the salaries of 3 players. This buyout due to their retention will lock up 1 of their 3 retained salary slots for 8 years
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Sharks preview- is there any reason for hope?
in San Jose Sharks
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The hope is we suck so bad we take last place and slackin for Macklin
We have 2 more years of sucking ahead of us and that's ok with me as long as we draft smart. Couture and Vlasic have 3 and 4 years left on their contracts and that sucks. However....We have 1 more retention spot. In 2 years the Burns retention is up and we have a 2nd. Some teams MIGHT want another 2nd line C caliber at a discount and want Couture. Vlasic is a buyout Candidate.
but Gregor isn't a Dman mate lol. He is a 4th line Center
Our top prospects are...
1. Will Smith
Slam dunk talent
2. William Eklund
I was shocked and happy as hell when he fell to 7th. He was in many ways the best offensive player of his draft.
3. Quentin Musty
His hockey sense need honing, but he has some nasty shot and the physical tools to be a good power forward. Was a first overall OHL pick in 2021 and started to find his game after a coaching change. Had he found it earlier he likely goes higher than he did when the Sharks nabbed him
4. Shakir Mukhamadullin
Has strong potential. Can his bad habits be coached out? Maybe. He did well in his limited games in the Sharks AHL with 10 points in 12 games and our AHL team SUCKS. Im looking forward to seeing more. I actually hope he gets 9 games with the sharks this year. our blueline is so bad LOLOL.
5. Filip Bystedt
His ceiling is 2nd line C, but I see him more in a checking line role.
6. Henry Thrun
Has 3/4 Dman in his future.