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    WJC 2023

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    5 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

    The Connor Bedard show tonight, 3 g 4 a. He's now scored 12 goals in 11 WJHC games. 


    He’s a special player.  It’s gonna suck watching him play for any team not wearing orange & black.

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    Flyers Trade…..

    in Philadelphia Flyers

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    12 hours ago, ruxpin said:

     

    I had a moment of optimism.  Thankfully, it passed.   It was a really weird 30 seconds, let me tell ya.


    i commented on the other thread and almost apologized for being too optimistic for this crowd.  Your comment is better!

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    Waiver Claim by Flyers: Keifer Bellows

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    I like the claim. This is a low risk/high reward type scenario.  IIRC, Bellows was on the Flyers radar in his draft year…or at least on the radar of the armchair GMs on this site, (I was one of them).  He could be one of those players that didn’t fit the system being used on the Island and will blossom with the change of scenery.  Hopefully, things work out for him with the Flyers.  
     

     

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    Tony D'Angelo for 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks

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    5 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

     

     

    This has been Chuck Fletchers way for going on TWELVE YEARS. It's nothing new....overpay for everything, throw away draft picks, sign bums to bad contracts. Some of us (the grumpy ones) saw this coming when Philly signed him. That's why we're grumpy, cause we were sick of it before he got here. Some are just realizing it. Some, somehow, still haven't got it. It's going to be a looooooong shitshow before he gets fired and whoever the poor bastard is that takes over recovers from him.

     

    3 hours ago, ruxpin said:

    It's simply mindbedoggling that some didn't get this when he arrived. What the hell are you paying attention to?

     

    If they still don't get it?   Simply no signs of intelligent life where they live.


    I don’t have anything to add here.  Just thought you guys would like to see my avatar.  😂🤣

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    Paul Maurice named new HC

    in Florida Panthers

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    Brunette guided the team through the Coach Q controversial period all the way to the President’s trophy.  They didn’t miss a beat. That was pretty impressive, IMHO.  Really surprised by this.

     

    I imagine that exit interviews had a lot to do with this move.

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    TORT Claim

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    35 minutes ago, TropicalFruitGirl26 said:

     

    Ok, @pilldoc and Flyer fans....hide your short attention spans and fear of blocks of texts, TFG is here to dazzle and possible piss some of you off :bigteeth: :

     

    First of all, Doc, congrats on your Flyers getting John Tortorella...no really, that's not a sarcastic post (and I KNOW some in the Flyer fanbase genuinely can't stand him, and I understand that).

    I've posted many times something everyone by know should know: That Torts has a limited shelf life before he wears on his teams.
    BUT, the idea here is, that he will instill some sort of cohesion back into the locker room, as some have said as well, accountability, pride in what they are doing out there....not to mention clearing out the locker room of whiners, floaters, paycheck collectors, and other manner of flotsam and jetsam left over from previous disastrous seasons.

    This much he has shown he has done in the past. Some players will either ask to be traded, change their attitudes and/or mindsets, simply not be re-signed under his regime, or even "flee" as free agents the first chance they get.
    And that last one may not necessarily be a bad thing. One has to wonder, after all, of the mettle of a player who would "flee" a coach who wants them to work hard every damned shift on the ice and who is critical of their play when warranted.

    Second, I absolutely agree that Torts vs Philly media will be must see TV. Over the years, Johnny Omelette has gotten better at dealing with the mealy mouthed people around, including the media that always seem to disguise some question behind some other absurd dialogue, however, he likely will still uncork some "go %$#@ yourself then Brooksie" at someone should he get to the point where he wants no more to do with the inquiring muppet he is dealing with.

    If anything, his antics should help get the heat off his team (at least the good players) who may fall victim to countless assaults by the media to answer questions about team failures (and there is STILL gonna be lots of that in Year One of Torts), when they should continue to focus on hockey. Tortorella will bear the brunt of the media and that is an underrated aspect of his hiring that I think his locker room appreciates, but others outside it don't realize how important it is to the players.

    Third, that hiring in Vancouver..... a blip in the radar.
    That hiring of Torts in Vancouver was an absolute misfit from the moment he was even being considered. That last Vancouver team had AV's fingerprints all over it in personnel, culture, style, attitude...everything!

    As you know, Torts and AV couldn't be more different guys, and the Vancouver higher ups simply did NOT allow Torts to run that 'soft group' the way it needed to be run in order for them to be more than an aging, cling-to-the-past, inner circle that had no chance to compete against hard working teams.

    NOW THAT is where it will get interesting in Philadelphia.
    Torts following AV in Philly (let's ignore Yeo for now  here) is the ONLY parallel that, for the sake of Flyers fans, should be drawn with the same happening in Vancouver.

    Where the Canucks had AV's DNA firmly entrenched, and the FO were very slow to do much, if anything, to accommodate Torts' style, this current Philadelphia team never really got the chance to 'absorb' Vigneault, and in fact, are a heaping, shapeless, aimless, blob of a mess, that Tortorella, IF ALLOWED and ACCOMODATED by the Flyer front office, can indeed shape into a tough, no nonsense, competitive group.

    If that is allowed to happen (let Torts do his thing), then the team could very well be set right before his infamous expiration date comes about....which leads me to your final post about Torts-Fletcher:

    If indeed Torts starts to get results, and there is resistance from the GM to some of how he wants to do things, you can bet your bottom pill that it will be Fletcher shown the door first as 'Chuckie's' track record in fixing things in an org is much, much less impressive that John Tortorella's....... in fact, some may argue, Fletcher is the type of guy you NEED to bring in guys like Tortorella to clean up after!
    So this relationship should be very interesting to watch how it unfolds.

    Finally, Torts' legacy.
    Putting aside the fact he has only won ONE Cup, and simply focusing on what his role really is (hint: It ISN'T to guide a team to a Stanley Cup, but rather shape them into the type of group that competes hard enough where a Cup would eventually be attainable, even if it isn't without him on board), let's look at his history in coaching....

    Tampa Bay.
    A joke of an organization pre-Tortorella due to many factors. But the ONLY factors the HC can control is the locker room, who inhabits it, and who plays. THAT is what he did for that group and even after his departure, the Bolts for the most part, have been a competitive, proud group over the years, even though it took a guy like Steve Yzerman (and his understudy Julien Brisebois) at the GM spot and Jon Cooper at the HC spot to eventually lead the team to more titles.
    But Torts left the org NO LONGER the league doormat and laughing stock.

    New York.
    The Rangers were an aging, mostly easy to play against collection of highly paid players whose best days were behind them, and overshadowed any of the spark of young players that would come in with new attitudes and actually want to work hard to attain something rather than follow in the footsteps of those who are still living in their past glories.

    Torts goes in there, helps clean house, brings about a tough mentality to the locker room and helps usher in spring chicken guys like Ryan Callahan, Ryan McDonagh, Brian Boyle who in turn, help turn the org into a respectable, competing group.... and even after Torts was gone, the Rangers, for the most part, have been a competitive group who do NOT hang onto old floating vets for very long before deciding it is time to renew and start competing again (see recent Ranger reset, rebuild that changed over from the Rick Nash group to the one they have now).

    Vancouver.
    Again, let's forget that one as Torts had NO BUSINESS being hired there....not if the front office wasn't willing to bend to what he needed to kick that group in the arse.
    What? Didn't the Canuck FO know what they were getting with Torts? Did they think they were getting a blue collar 'Yes Man' and business would continue as it was with better results?? Fools.....

    Columbus.
    Again...took a mostly soft, inconsequential group, and turned them into poster children for hard work, more than the sum of their parts, competitive types that had them be much better than they ever were at any point in their history.
    They were even famously able to take a 62-game winning, President's trophy winning team to the cleaners in a playoff series simply by playing tougher and ultimately kicking the crap in all aspects, out of that high flying group, to the point where Torts' Jackets CHANGED the mindset of that team (you know who!), to where THEY knew they needed to be tougher in order to win.

    Torts leaves Columbus and they are slowly but surely rounding into something good once again, still tough to play against, and you can bet, if the Jacket's front office has any smarts about them, they do NOT want to return to the days of soft nobodies that teams LOVE seeing on their schedule.

    I will conclude this opus with the bottom line here:

    --Torts isn't going to be there when the Flyers achieve Stanley Cup contentions status, though his influence, in many ways should still be there.
    --Many people in the Flyer fanbase will still hate the guy....and I honestly can see their point of view...but...
    --He SHOULD get results, if the Flyer FO doesn't get in his way, and in fact, assists him in what he is trying to do.
    --When Torts' expiration comes about, the team should be in much better shape than before he got there...and in the meantime, Flyers' fans should have been treated to competitive hockey, making the playoffs here and there, good media days starring the ol Omelette, and all this even if a Stanley Cup is still not attained.
    But BONUS if somehow Torts stays on longer than people think and the Flyers somehow, someway DO win one while he is there.....
    --The Torts' hire, polarizing as it is, is probably the best possible hire Philly could have made at this time seeing as how other candidates chose elsewhere, or perhaps, weren't ever really considered for one reason or another.

    All due respect to Rick Tocchet, for instance, but Torts as HC > Rick Tocchet as HC.
    As a fiery, wise, omnivore, caniform, Flyer fan friend of mine ;) once told me regarding Tocchet: "I like him better as a lieutenant or XO officer, rather than the guy in charge", and I think that rings true.

    Love him or hate him...Torts is now your guy and Flyer hockey will still have its headaches starting out, but should NOT be boring.
    Let the expletives begin...


    So what you’re saying is when Torts is gone the Flyers will be two years away from being two years away?  Got it!🤣

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