RonJeremy

Of course, we certainly dont need another Mr Softy like Carter. Voracek ,Courts and Schenn are all more physical than Carter...JVR on the other hand is too much of a nice guy and needs to play with more of an edge and use his size to his advantage.

Courts is 6ft 3 and prob 170 lbs, i love his defensive game but he needs to add about 40 lbs. Voracek is 6ft 2, 215lbs... So he has the size and skating ability to go up against anyone. Im not denying the skill of our centers at this point we have tremendous young skilled centers , we just dont have much size/strength there, although im not arguing that all our guys play bigger than their size. But keep in mind how the Bruins manhandled us last year. i still think we need Getzlaf at center and Webber on defense, then we can go up against the Bruins...I know , Im having delusions.....

Do you ever see when Frankenstein Malkin cycles with the puck our opposing centers cant even budge him. If you watched the 3 games against the Rangers, our small centers were rendered all but useless against the Rangers physical defense.Sure G scored in the WC game, but he was shutdown after that and in the other games.I think we would be a much better team if we had a big Primeau type of center to shutdown the oppositions center, win big faceoffs and battle in front of the net for rebounds.

Schenn has been highly regarded and was a stud in the WJC, he is strating to pick it up now after all those injuries. The thing we all have to be prepared for is, we all know that that we will be making a deal for a dman, and if its a quality dman, then we will be giving up quality in return, so you can count on it being either JVR or Schenn. I think both are going to be real good players. It seems that most flyer fans would rather deal JVR, of course if he was playing like he did in the playoffs,we would be saying to deal Schenn.

i understand that, but we are really small at center and it will have to be addressed sooner or later. Maybe if we try Voracek at center in practice and he looks good, we can move Schenn to wing and move out Briere to free up cap space for a much needed dman. And dont go saying he makes too much and no one will take him..the Canadiens gave the Rangers Ryan McDonounah and a couple of other guys for that overpaid stiff Gomez, and they also traded for another high priced stiff, Kaberle. So there are still dopey teams out there that will pay for a big contract, and with Schenn and Couts , improving as time goes on,Briere will be expendable. to get the dmen we need we have to dump a big contract, and Bryz were stuck with that one.

Considering our lack of size at center, why not try Voracek at center? He has size,strength, skating and top playmaking ability. He is more of passer than a shooter and his playmaking might be even better playing in the middle. He will have more room to create plays , and can go up against some other big centers

We will never make it out of the East with the defense and goaltending we have. The Bruins and Rangers are giving up a full goal less per game than we are. Part of it, is they have the 2 best goalies in the league, the other part is, they have a tight checking ,physical ,shutdown defense, which we do not. We have a very mobile defense, but they are prone to horrible give aways, and they allow too many people to bang in rebounds in front. When we play the Rangers we get one shot and not even a hint of a rebound, and once they build a lead they compeletely smother us. We need two more defensemen on this team, one to replace Pronger and one to replace Carle who wi;; be an UFA. We should try and build a strong defense , to offset our poor goaltending. If we can land a guy like Gleason or Beauchiman and then sign Webber or Suter, we will be set. Of course coming up with the cap space to pay them is gonna be a problem. Maybe we are stuck for this season with what we have, and in the offseason, if Pronger is done for good then we will know where we stand. We may also have to try and dump Briere, to free up some cap space.

Oh, Boy we are so jinxed that even players we talk about acquiring,are getting concussions. Yahoo is reporting Webber is out

OK, its hard to gauge the quality of shots and all that , so I guess we will have to go bythe usual standards, team GAA and Save percentage for our goalies. I do think our defense is prone to lapses where we play flawlessley and then give up a total breakaway, a little too often. Of course we can also factor in all the penalties we take. Overall, I guess its safe to say that Lundquist is alot better than our goalies. So the only way we can offset that, is to get a top quality shutdown dman, to help limit the chances against our goalies. If we get a shot blocking slot clearing dman maybe that can help limit rebound goals and chances in front, so Bryz will only have to worry about the first shot

Right now the Rangers are #2 in team defense and we are #16, we have given up about 30 more goals than the Rangers. I hear people talking about how we have best defense,and we dont need to trade for any help on defense. Goaltending and defense always beats offense,obviously we cant match up with Lundquist,so the only alternative is to improve the defense.The Rangers have big ,young physical shutdown dmen like Staal,Girardi, Sauer, McDonougha and that one kid who laid out Reade, that was one of the best hits I have seen in years, a classic hip check. That defense really limits second chances in front

Im beginning to worry about the Rangers, if we face them in the playoffs, we are gonna have problems. They have a strong physical defense, and a money goaltender and Brandon Prust has beaten up our guys two games in a row. They were missing 3 regular dmen and they still limited our chancers, we had no second shots, no room in front, and Lundquist gave up no rebounds. We dont have much size at center ,and we need a stud dman

Ok, let me correct myself.. I meant in the junior championships, I know he was the star of that series, but didnt he have a shoulder injury? I guess Im seeing the injuries pile up, and after seeing it happen to Lindros right from the start , head injury ,knee injury, shoulder,etc, internal bleeding, now Schen has a variety of injuries, it has me a little nervous. I guess the bottom line is, if the Flyers make a trade for someone like Webber, we may as well face the facts that its going to be either JVR or Schenn who is part of the trade package.

Im concerned about some stupid team outbidding us on Carle, to me if he was considered so valuable they would have chosen him over Coburn....Wiesnewski just signed for 5.5 million, so why wouldnt Carles agents look at that number, and we still have to re-sign Voracek and Jagr.

They need to show JVR video of his perfomance in the playoffs, when he was a one man show. He was driving to the net with authority and using his size and speed. JVR is still a goofy young kid without alot of confidence or snarl. Give him some time to develop. If it came to making a trade for a guy like Webber , Id rather give them Schenn, Schenn was injured in juniors and its carrying right over to the pros, he is the next Lindros...constantly injured. Call it bad luck, maybe its the way he plays, maybe he is too frail, but he looks like one of those jinxed players

Sestito actually put up some decent points for the Phantoms this year. He has a little skill, unlike Shelly

We would hope teams arent going to keep giving out stupid contracts, but theres always a stupid desperate team out there to ruin our plans. Had we signed Leino during the season ,we would have had him for 2 million, once he hit the open market, Buffalo grossly overpaid for him. Look at Montreal, they just took on that loser Kaberle to go along with Gomez's horrible contract, so the stupidity continues, and defensemen are a top commodity. Of course I wouldnt make a trade for either Webber or Suter, unless I know that he will sign. Most of our deals we have made the guys have signed with us..Timmo, Hartnell, Bryz. The only guy that didnt sign with us was Hamhuis, becase he wanted to go to his hometown. Obviously our GM must be in talks with Carles agent, so we will get an idea of what he is looking for, and then we will know our options. I would think that Suter or Webber would love to come to a top orginazation like the Flyers. we really better start planning on life without Pronger. I know he is virtually irre[lacable, but the closest guy to Pronger is Webber, unless you know of a cheaper young Pronger in the making? No matter how well our dmen are playing, none can be considered a top 2 guy, so we need a top guy no matter what.

Aziz, I know you love Carle, and Im not arguing with your stats on him. My assumption is, if Carle continues having this great season, and with the shortage of dmen in the league, I wouldnt be surprised to see his agent shoot for a big contract, so I would think Carle is looking for a big increase. Why become an UFA jsut to make an extra million, I think he will shoot for a big raise. So my argument is this... if Carle becomes an UFA ,some team could come in and make Carle a big offer ,that we cant match, and then we get nothing for Carle or, if we sign Carle for 5 or 6 million, that pretty much eliminates us from pursuing Webber or Suter. So I would attempt to trade Carle at the deadline and acquire Suter or Webber also at the deadline, so then ,Suter or Webber replace Pronger and Gustafsson repalces Carle. I honestly dont think Pronger is coming back. So I think we are a better team with Gustafsson and Webber than we are with Carle and an injured old Pronger who probably isnt coming back, or if he does, will surely be injured again.

p.s. giving an 8 year, 8million dollar contract to a proven 26 year old stud like Webber, is much different than giving a long term big deal to a 35 year old Pronger like we did or 2 young underachivers like Carter and Richards. i dont think mant Flyer fans wil complain

we couldnt even win one game las yr

Well, im sure we would try and work out a contract first, before we agreed to a trade, just like we did with Timmo and Hartnell. Would you rather pay Webber 8 million Carle 6 million? I cant see Suter getting more than 6 million... do you have any other dmen in mind? I dont think moving Carle for a good young player and packaging that with Schenn and maybe another pick for Webber as giving up too much. If Nashville wants something unreasonable ,thenyou look elsewhere. We have to get a stud, look at Timmos age, and if he gets hurt ,we are toast

Carle and Mezzaros have stepped up their games,Bourdon has been solid and brings a physical edge, Timmo has been great and Coburn also looks good. Before we go getting too excited we have to realize a few things... Even when Prongs was in,we still needed another dman with PP skills, no one else we have has any PP QB skills. Timmo and Carle can pass,but neither has a shot Timmo is 38, he is going to burn our with all the minutes he is playing and as the season goes on and he wears out ,we will get worse on defense No matter how well our other guys look, none are a #1 or #2 dman and nobody back there is much of a goal scorer Carle is an UFA who is having a career year,so he will be looking for a nice raise, is he worth the 6 million he will be looking for? You know once he gets a new deal, he will revert back to the old Carle. Our defense was somewhere around 15 or 16th overall, so from the looks of it we need help ,with our without Pronger Are we going to stand pat and sit around waiting for a 38 yr old who has been injured for 2 years straight? I would almost guarantee Pronger is finished and even if he comes back, with the stlye he plays, how long will it take before he has another injury ? This is the perfect oppurtunity to make a move , so many of us have talked about being stuck with an aging injury prone dman and an impossible contract, this could be a blessing in disguise. I think the best move is to try and trade for either Webber or Suter, if you take Prongers contract out and put him on LTI and we dont re-sign Carle , thats the more than enough $$ for Webber. Would you rather have Carle and pay him 6 million and hope to have an injury prone 38 year old Pronger back or would you rather have a 26 year old stud Webber and replace Carle with Gustafsson, and Bourdon stays as the 6th guy. So you trade Carle at the deadline for a first rounder or a good young player and then you package that player/pick with Schenn and one more piece for Webber. Schenn is good, but he hasnt played at all ,so its not like we will miss him. If we cant get Webber, then you try for Suter, but you give up less. Whether we like t or not, we have to act as if Pronger is gone for good, and in order to get a #1 or #2 dman ,Schenn will have to be the centerpiece of any trade....

One guy i always like from the Canes is Tim Gleason, he plays a physical game.

In order to get a dman like Suter, Schenn would have to be traded. If its Webbber, then its Schenn and a whole lot more. The only other option is to try to trade Briere and have Schenn take his spot at center. Of course Briere has a huge contract is an older player, and has a NTC, so it would be tought to get him to go to Nashville. The other move is to look for a solid dman , rahter than a star, then we wouldnt have to give up as much. I thought that Cody Franson had potential, Toronto got him from Nashville for nothing...

Why would we trade Hartnell ? He is having a huge season, especially for two grossly overpaid failures like Kaberle or Gomez. Whoever wrote that article is a ttoal moron.

Bourdon really looks good, he is playing 13 minutes a game or so, and has played sound defense, and thrown some big hits. They say he has a big point shot, so once he has gained more experience, we should try him on the PP