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I think they will train frost to play wing, much like they did with Gagne. I don't believe they will give up on patrick

Seems to me it's a slightly lesser version of Jason Smith and trying to emulate when we traded for him

I think Ehlers for Ghost is fair when it comes to value right now...also I believe Ehlers is going to explode (in a positive way) within near future. The guy can seriously fly, handle the Puck and shoot. Yes he's had an off year and terrible playoffs but still youngish

Apparently he has been vlasic's partner for quite some time now as the sharks top shut down pair...so yes he should still be first pairing material

Agreed. I was trying to write either Morin or Haag with myers

If ghost is traded: Provo braun Sanheim niskanen Morin/haag myers If ghost stays: Provo ghost Sanheim braun Niskanen myers

Don't know too much about him. But interesting read from 2018 https://lastwordonhockey.com/2018/03/22/san-jose-sharks-justin-braun-deserves-spotlight/

I don't think a 2nd rounder is enough. I sure hope so, and in hindsight the 11th is probably too steep a price to pay. But I hope we drop Hayes due to the potential long term and figure out a fair deal for Kadri

Completely agree with this. I like Hayes but for me the term is absolutely critical here. Don't want him blocking Patrick or possibly rubtsov, O'Brien, frost. Sure rubtsov and O'Brien may not pan out. But Patrick and frost need a clear path in a few years.... That is why I prefer Kadri as he is on 4.5mil for another three years. That's perfect.... And yes it will cost assets. I would seriously consider the 11th for him or ghost.

Why not just keep ghost with provo and niskanen with sanheim. Let sanheim join the rush and niskanen stays back. Morin/Haag with Meyers

So what are the terms? Twice the length and half the salary retained?

No you are correct. 2015 or 16, can't really remember which

This! What a blunder that was!

Too afraid it will be another JVR/L. Schenn trade. Granted Trouba is a way more proven commodity than Luke was at the time of the trade and same goes for jvr vs Patrick. But still, I really don't want to give up on Patrick. Still belive he will develop into a magnificent player

How on earth is Ehlers goalless in 21 playoff games?? He is way too talented and should be dynamic force... But then again I'm biased as I'm from Denmark

Probably not...i'd just like to think so. Especially considering how the game has developed and the flexibility of players needing to be able to play different positions when required and moving up and down the lineup... Maybe it's tougher for bigger old school wingers to play off wing... But for wingers like TK or Zucker I think it's easier. Their games are high tempo dynamic roles which are ch would make it easier to switch

Reasoning for zucker is that I belive Fletch said in his statement a week ago or so that his needs right now are: 2C (done with Hayes) a dman, goalie and I believe he mentioned a scoring winger. Also he does not want to rely or out pressure on the prospects (Ratcliffe, frost, farabee). I like zucker and not too concerned with him being a LW as wingers switch sides quite often. Many options here, move G to RW or get JVR to play his offwing...or just move zucker to RW. I just don't like a scenario where we go e up the 11th....love building through the draft too much and I believe there is a really really good prospect available at 11.

Hope you are wrong aswell. But I have a bad feeling fletch will give up the 11th for zucker....

Drop the act Poulin...you are Bill Meltzer

I'm away on holiday (Greek island)...actually had a "minor" fight with the girlfriend over this. I apparently always spend way too much time on here, or as she would say it "alt for lang tid på det der dumme ishockey forum." So naturally, me checking in and just had to read this awesome write-up triggered the fight...so worth it though! thanks guys btw, think she had flashbacks from last year, we were away on on holiday as well, when the Flyers signed Weber to the offer sheet...with me checking in ALL the time for an update, so naturally she was worried this may result in the same thing. Ok, this was a bit of a side note....thanks guys, great read!

LOL....so true

Welcome Quint! People on here are really nice and respectful...except for rux, jammer, pods, flyercanuck, brelic, aziz, EDI, canoli, sarp, terp, orangecrush, ronJer, poulin, TimKerr, all the swedish guys, Polaris, doom, HF, VanF, Jackstraw. Howie is alright...

@Polaris922 ok fair enough. I can see now that I may have written my intentions poorly.

@jammer2 @Polaris922 Of course Mario and Gretzky were the better players no doubt. As far as I am concerned though, the way I like to see hockey played Eric Lindros is the best I've seen. It's one thing to be in awe of a skilled smallish speedster rippin' it up (seen that too many times before)....but to see the size of a Lindros, physicality and combined skill set absolutely dominating is a rare and unique thing. As I specifically stated in my post, and was my main point which you both completely ignored: THAT is my point and that is why, I think, Lindros is so unique. I have not mentioned anything about two points per game and all that. But again, of course, Sakic Forsberg, etc etc all had the better career and are better than Lindros in certain aspects of the game.

@Polaris922 Lindros was not just another skilled "powerful forward" He was a unique elite generational talent that carried a franchise on his shoulders. Sure, Crosby is a unique elite generational talent as well, no arguments there. Crosby is the better skater, as Stamkos is the better shooter and Thornton was probably a better playmaker, Datsyuk is a better two-way forward, etc etc. However, NO ONE in the history of the NHL had the combined skill set at such an elite level as Lindros had. It is such a rare thing to see. He didn't win the cup, but that was not due to his lack of ability or potential...other factors were involved. We rave about him because we are biased flyers fans and I would bet at least a quarter of this forum became Flyers fans mainly due to Lindros. However, ask yourself this: what would the "perfect" player look like when you consider skill set (skating, shooting, passing, physicality, intimidation, etc etc) and size look like if you had to create one? The closest thing to real life you will ever come to is Eric Lindros 88. Now, saying that...I'm sure Crosby will be remembered as a better player and all that due to what he has won. But he had the team, Lindros didn't. Lindros never lived up to the hype due to his injuries. And because of his shortened career and lack of trophies it is only fair that his potential induction to the Hall is severely questioned. No doubt. But, as far as I'm concerned...Eric Lindros is the best Hockey player I have ever seen when on top of his game. That mario guy was pretty decent too