Holymakinaw

On 12/5/2022 at 9:52 AM, OccamsRazor said:

 

We know. The whole team...

I'm under no illusion that Murray will be the "Saviour" for the Leafs.  Even tho he's doing very well right now, I don't have much faith in him or the core to get over that hump and winning anything any time soon.

Still tho........the team is way, way, WAY better than the  Flyers at least. 

20 hours ago, RonJeremy said:

You know Toronto lost Muzzin with a back injury ,he's done for the year. Toronto is a team that got pushed around in the playoffs and would just be dumb enough to take Risto off our hands I would eat 1.5 million per year for the remaining four years, so Toronto could have him at 3.5 mil per year. Never underestimate a desperate team.

We don't want your bad players.  Sorry.  You have to keep him.

Y'all should trade just about everyone else tho, and really bottom out for a chance at Bedard.  You won't be winning any time soon with Atkinson, JVR, Hayes, Laughton, Provorov (he's youngish but he stinks defensively too).  Fire sale.  Everything must go.  And then the healing can begin one day soon.

11 hours ago, TropicalFruitGirl26 said:

But if I had to have just one of them, starting out a new franchise, Marner is still it for me, and I think he is the type of player, like a Patrice Bergeron or Ron Francis, that will continue to play at an elite level even after his prime years have passed, whereas I think a player like Auston Matthews may peak very high, then start to drop off and won't be the big scoring threat in his mid 30's for instance, like he was in his 20's....UNLESS, of course, he can re-invent himself along the way.

I agree.  Of the two, I bet the Leaves() hold on to Marner the longest, and he'll end up being the one who owns all the big Leaf records, except maybe goals, which Matthews will take.  Ron Francis is a good comparable, based on skill, and impact.  Marner is pure skill.  Now the Leafs just need a Tkachuk on the team, to offset that and bring some grit and hart/soul to the team.  Pure skill just ain't enough, as they have proven in their youth.  Luckily, they are still very young and have time.  

6 minutes ago, radoran said:

 

Oh look the fan of the "elite team" that can't win a playoff round is here to taunt the "loser fans" with a prediction of utter humiliation.

 

Of course, when the score is 3-1 Flyers with 10 to play in the third period - sorry, 4-1 as I write this - the fan of the "elite team" that hasn't won a playoff round in 18 years is no where to be found.

 

Sort of like a certain "elite team" in the second round of the playoffs.

 

Or, for that matter, on a championship trophy of a league with more than six teams.

 

Take off, hoser.

 

Give it time.  

Bunting totally won that fight.

"He could use some work on his skating, decision-making, awareness and positioning".

LOL.

22 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

So. Big whoop.

 

Leafs will choke again this year what's new.

 

Maybe next year...

Tis thread is not about the Leafs at all, is it?  As far as I can tell, it's about the Colorado/Philly game?

I'll go with..............6-2 Colorado.

Colorado is going to destroy Philly tonighht.  

6-2.

Who's better?  

Traditionally, everyone says Matthews.  He scores a million goals, had a 106 point season, won a few Rockets, a Hart and a Ted Lindsay.  

But.....

Marner has gotten 94+ points, or PACED for 94+ points for four years now, and looks to be doing it again for a 5th year in a row.   Marner also owns the all-time Leaf record for consecutive games with at least a point, with 19(and counting).  Matthews has not done either of these things.  Marner is also the best passer/playmaker on the Leafs, by far.  Matthews is really just a pure scorer.  And without Marner feeding him this year, his goals are down.   Marner is also the best two-way forward on the team, and should get a lot of Selke votes this season.

Matthews probably does edge out Marner overall, but does anyone else think it's WAY closer than many say?  I think there are a lot of good arguments for Mitch being our best player.

If you disagree, you are a horrible person. 

On 7/27/2022 at 9:42 AM, Holymakinaw said:

I wonder what draft picks Dubas will have to send away NEXT summer, to unload Murray's contract?

He's doing very well............right now.  Give it time.

On 6/24/2022 at 11:54 AM, yave1964 said:

  Strictly out of my rear end, the Flyers are going to SWING FOR THE FENCES and I have been trying to figure out what that means,

 

  Lets face it, other than draft picks the Flyers dont exactly have a ton of moveable pieces. Hart, IMHO is a logical person to consider moving, Debrincat has been linked to the flyers in more than one report, I was looking the rosters of both teams over and this may make an absolute ton of sense for both teams.

 

  Chicago has no goalies, I mean literally zero. Fleury was dealt at the deadline, Subban and Lankinen who are both dreadful are free agents and not likely to be brought back in any significant role, there is literally nobody in the organization who can play in net, Arvid Soderblom is a B minus or C plus goalie prospect but nowhere near ready. 

 

  Flyers have just brought Ivan Fedotov over from mother Russia and he is considered a ready now goalie, a year in the AHL might do him some good buteverything I read is the plan is for him to remain in the NHL this year as at the very worst a 1B in net.  

 

  The Flyers need scoring. The Hawks need to fix a gaping hole in net. IMHO both players, Debrincat at 24, Hart at 23 would fix a problem. The Flyers could then add a veteran such as Georgiev, Samsonov, Campbell or DeSmith to pair with Fedotov in net.  Obviously more moving pieces would need to be involved but in theory both teams dangling young potentially game changing players to fix holes in their roster this seems ideal to me.

Hmm............I'll say no.

Yeah he's pretty good.

I haven't watched it.  What is it?

LOL.  This is all CLEARLY scripted/staged.   Mo is a helluva thespian tho.

On 5/15/2022 at 11:02 AM, 3 Palmateers said:

BTW, the Leafs have tied the Hartford Whalers with the longest all-time series losing streak, at six. 

 

No way this team/org is remotely similar next season. 

 

The big debate in Leafs nation is to what extent changes need to be made. The two schools of thought seem to elements of truth in them. Yet, they are so polarizing. 

Do you stay the course believing something will be different? Or, do you make changes and how many? 

 

I do not believe in this age of sports you can just "stick with the plan". The plan has failed 3 straight series. I'd say 4 but Keefe has only failed 3x.  It gets murky because Lou and Babs are tied up into the series losing streak. The commonalities in the Dubas-era are Matthews, Marner, Reilly, Nylander, JT, Muzzin and Holl. 

 

Who stays? Who goes? I would say goodbye to:  Nylander, Muzzin and Holl. I would gladly move on from JT, but he has a NMC and is going nowhere. 

 

Does Keefe stay? Dependent on what happens with Dubas and or Shanahan, but wouldn't be opposed to a Torts or Trotz taking over the reigns. 

 

Does Shanahan stay? I'd move on from him. Shanaplan has failed. 

 

Does Dubas stay? I think that's a tough one. Of course, if Shanahan is out, then Dubas and Keefe's job security is thin ice. 

 

The Leafs are sadly always more interesting after a final game series loss than they are at any other point. Such intrigue now with what 2022-23 looks like. That is the fate of the loser. Always talking about next year when the current year isn't over. 

 

Would love to see legit poll numbers among Leafs nation on what they find acceptable. I think there's going to be a huge disconnect if the organization tries feeding us more of the same next season. It just has to be different in a tangible way to garner any form of belief. You can't keep getting people's hopes up year after year only to never deliver before they tune out. Change is the only remedy. No salesman is good enough to convince this base that more of the same is the right path forward even though it might be. 

 

 

 

With the new Goalie tandem & forward additions of Aube-Kubel, Jamkrok & Gaudet..........get ready for 7 straight years.

I wonder what draft picks Dubas will have to send away NEXT summer, to unload Murray's contract?

Meh.  At least 2.1M is a low number, for a guy who is good defensively.

It's much better than the Murray and Samsanov pickups.

To those who said "Flyers"........LOL.  

No chance in hell.

Boston would have been my bet.

On 2/18/2020 at 1:05 AM, WordsOfWisdom said:

This is the price you pay when you squander points in the schedule against easier opposition:  

 

So.........we're 4-2 so far, from your little "the sky is falling" schedule post.

Do you ever have any GOOD takes?

On 2/16/2020 at 3:22 PM, ruxpin said:

 

Jesus,.   Seriously though, the Leafs have not been injured worse -- and arguably less -- than teams they're looking up at.     They're not where they are because of injuries.  They're where they're at because, frankly, they're simply not that good.

 

Or that young.

Here's a fun fact  for you, Chief.......

Only two teams in the league have more man-games lost to injury than the Leafs:  Pittsburgh and Columbus.

And the Leafs will make the playoffs in spite of it all, with their "kids" leading the way.  

You are clueless.

LOL.  Another hand-wringing thread.

The FACT is, the Leafs......like ALL teams.....have ups & downs.  Surprise, surprise.  

Since Keefe took over, they are 22-11-4.  That is not bad, no matter how hard you try to spin it all the time.  Yes, they've struggled a bit lately.  Remember the early part of the season, when Tampa was sucking so bad?  They seem to have recovered, haven't they?  You seriously think the Leafs are incapable of having any GOOD stretches?  Only bad, huh?

You keep crying, whenever things are tough.  Lame.

14 minutes ago, ruxpin said:

Enjoy the parade.  You should have a very good seat. 

 

The homerism burns. 

Please don't flame other members.

1 hour ago, ruxpin said:

 

Jesus,.   Seriously though, the Leafs have not been injured worse -- and arguably less -- than teams they're looking up at.     They're not where they are because of injuries.  They're where they're at because, frankly, they're simply not that good.

 

Or that young.

LMAO. 

The Leafs have lost almost 150 man-games to injury this season, and have had to do without many key guys.  Marner(top line player) was out a month.  Rielly(#1 D-Man) is currently out more than a month.  Starting Goalie missed a bunch of games.  Johnsson will miss two months.  Hyman, Dermott, blah, blah, blah.......they are never iced a completely healthy team this season.  Not one game.  We have so many guys injured long-term right now, that the team suddenly have 10.6 million available in cap space if they want, for the trade deadline.  That is significant at this time of year.......in a very bad way.  Only two players......Matthews & Barrie......have played in every game this year.  That's hurts a team, even if you try to slough it off.  

And not young, eh?  Lets look at many of our guys that we rely on for major minutes out there, all year long.

Sandin - 19

Liljegren - 20

Matthews - 22

Marner - 22

Nylander - 23

Kapanen - 23

Dermott - 23

Engvall - 23

Timashov - 23

Gauthier - 24

Johnsson - 25

Rielly - 25

Kerfoot - 25

Mikheyev - 25

Of course, not EVERY player is very young.  No one said that.  But this is 14 players 25 or under, and many are KEY guys(our entire top line is 22/22/23).

So yeah.  JESUS. 

Some moaning Leaf fans need to relax and see the bigger picture.  And stop writing idiotic threads about how embarassing it is they've been struggling.  Any team would struggle, given this.

Show some patience.  

We're still full of super young players and have been almost destroyed by injuries this year.  Don't look at a bad stretch and wring your little hands and cry & moan all the time.  This is what happens.  It's a process.

Jesus.

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Let's skip the insults.