"Guys like Hartnell, Simmonds, Schenn brothers, Giroux, Grossman...are not soft, there big and or tough group of guys." we are VERY soft up front and will continue to lose games against more physical teams. briere, read, voracek, couturier, talbot, giroux, schenn are not bangers, power forwards who put fear in opposing d men on the forecheck. you referenced the Rangers, well they are MUCH bigger and tougher than we are and kicked our butts last year - or is your memory failing. it is not a coincidence that they beat us EVERY game last year. they are bigger and stronger than we are: they pound you and hit anything that we moves, in addition to playing very disciplined defence. while i agree that simmonds and hartnell are tough up front, i contend that we don't have enough bangers to win the necessary battles that win close, playoff like hockey games. schenn and giroux are certainly not "bangers." as an aside, i don't see what schenn has done to deserve being on the first line. during the lockout, he was decent, very up and down, in the AHL - certainly not spectacular. and last year, he was mediocre. acquiring the schett brothers will set us back 5 years.