yave1964 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Tarasenko in on a two year deal, the cost is moving out Fabbri for the same salary hit so tarasenko came aboard for no cap hit. That gives the wings Tarasenko Kane Raymond Debrincat Wow. Outstanding top six wings. One more top pair defender and we are ready. Maybe add Trouba? Oh wait...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Ewing Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 It's a sort of strange situation; the Wings are the oldest rebuilding team I can recall, but these are all short-term deals designed to give the kids cover until they're ready to step into bigger roles. The number of goalies is weird, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 1 hour ago, JR Ewing said: It's a sort of strange situation; the Wings are the oldest rebuilding team I can recall, but these are all short-term deals designed to give the kids cover until they're ready to step into bigger roles. The number of goalies is weird, though. Heh...RE: the number of goalies. I think that is a Steve Yzerman trademark. He did that in Tampa. When the Bolts were relying on guys like Mathieu Garon as their number one, he just went and acquired or stashed away in the minors a crapload of goaltenders till ONE of them proved worth to stay at the NHL level.....It is how he ended up getting ahold of a young Ben Bishop when no one seemed to want him...and that ultimately led to Andrei Vasilevskiy. Bishop rose above the glut of goalies Yzerman had either in the minors (Kristers Gudlevskis, Dustin Tokarsky were two I remember right away) or on the NHL roster, and once he did, he jettisoned the lot one way or another, hanging on to only a very young Andrei Vasilevskiy. I suspect he is doing the same thing in Detroit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Oh, and @yave1964... Wings signed Tarasenko? Biiiiig deal... Bolts got themselves CAM ATKINSON...mwahahahahaa.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Ewing Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 @TropicalFruitGirl26 I understand that he's establishing a competition, but I still think it's a puzzling group. Husso - Very inconsistent. Never know if he'll give you a quality start or not. Talbot - Solid goaltender if the workload isn't too high. Always starts the year hot and fades as the season wears on. Lyon - Inconsistent, and worse: there's a book on him... Shoot high. Skaters with a glaring weakness have the bottom-six to play in. Goalies get to sell cars. Campbell - Can only play as a backup, because if he has all day to think about the start that night, he's a headcase by puck drop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 5 minutes ago, JR Ewing said: @TropicalFruitGirl26 I understand that he's establishing a competition, but I still think it's a puzzling group. Husso - Very inconsistent. Never know if he'll give you a quality start or not. Talbot - Solid goaltender if the workload isn't too high. Always starts the year hot and fades as the season wears on. Lyon - Inconsistent, and worse: there's a book on him... Shoot high. Skaters with a glaring weakness have the bottom-six to play in. Goalies get to sell cars. Campbell - Can only play as a backup, because if he has all day to think about the start that night, he's a headcase by puck drop. I hear ya, JR. That group of relatively 'over the hill' talent is just there, I believe, to provide cover. If Husso can pull away from that group, then great, probably thinks Yzerman. But all those guys are there as veteran cover, possibly, in the hopes that young 21 year old, 6'6 goalie, Sebastian Cossa, who was recently promoted to the AHL (and had a good season last year with the Griffins), pans out within the next year or two. Maybe THAT is his Ben Bishop? Maybe someone else further down the pipeline or someone else's system he has eyes on. That's what I miss about Yzerman at the helm...the man is ALWAYS thinking, and sometimes, his moves DO look puzzling (he did that on more than one occasion in TB as well...did things that made people go "HUH??"), but in the end, there usually is a method to his madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Sorry, didn't mean to help hijack Yave's Tarasenko thread. All joking aside, Tarasenko is a decent signing. On the surface, signing a former elite scorer to nearly 5M when he seems to be bouncing around the league now doesn't look good, but the fact of the matter is, the guy can STILL play, score at a clip better than a good portion of the league, and is still only 32 so he should still have gas in that Russian tank of his. So, 4.75M looked at it that way, doesn't seem so bad. Plus, the Wings still have a chitload of cap space they can utilize. Overall, goal scoring shouldn't be a problem for the Red Wings (I don't believe it was last year either, but I could be wrong), but the real problem for this team is in goal prevention, which of course, means better defense and better goal tending. But, Steve Yzerman knows this. And just to keep the TB to Detroit comparisons going until everyone else around me pukes, Yzerman built up the Bolts' ability to put the puck in the net before finally solidifying the defense and goaltending to turn the team into a regular playoff contender with a good shot to win. Vladimir Tarasenko, Patrick Kane...those are still solid veterans who go towards executing that kind of building plan. As has been the case the last couple seasons, I look forward to DET-TBL matchups this coming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yave1964 Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 5 hours ago, JR Ewing said: @TropicalFruitGirl26 I understand that he's establishing a competition, but I still think it's a puzzling group. Husso - Very inconsistent. Never know if he'll give you a quality start or not. Talbot - Solid goaltender if the workload isn't too high. Always starts the year hot and fades as the season wears on. Lyon - Inconsistent, and worse: there's a book on him... Shoot high. Skaters with a glaring weakness have the bottom-six to play in. Goalies get to sell cars. Campbell - Can only play as a backup, because if he has all day to think about the start that night, he's a headcase by puck drop. Most important Trey Augustine. Several years away but looks like the real deal Sebastian Cossa not being rushed but likely will get NHL ice time this year and a semi regular by the next. So these other guys are just placeholders really and nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yave1964 Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 (edited) 5 hours ago, TropicalFruitGirl26 said: Sorry, didn't mean to help hijack Yave's Tarasenko thread. All joking aside, Tarasenko is a decent signing. On the surface, signing a former elite scorer to nearly 5M when he seems to be bouncing around the league now doesn't look good, but the fact of the matter is, the guy can STILL play, score at a clip better than a good portion of the league, and is still only 32 so he should still have gas in that Russian tank of his. So, 4.75M looked at it that way, doesn't seem so bad. Plus, the Wings still have a chitload of cap space they can utilize. Overall, goal scoring shouldn't be a problem for the Red Wings (I don't believe it was last year either, but I could be wrong), but the real problem for this team is in goal prevention, which of course, means better defense and better goal tending. But, Steve Yzerman knows this. And just to keep the TB to Detroit comparisons going until everyone else around me pukes, Yzerman built up the Bolts' ability to put the puck in the net before finally solidifying the defense and goaltending to turn the team into a regular playoff contender with a good shot to win. Vladimir Tarasenko, Patrick Kane...those are still solid veterans who go towards executing that kind of building plan. As has been the case the last couple seasons, I look forward to DET-TBL matchups this coming season. The Wings for fifteen years have needed true finishers, Nyquist and tatar were good but about it, Franzen. Could score but always hurt then..... Nothing. It is just so nice to see four wingers who can all score, two power play units, two solid lines with tons of kids pushing from below. I hear the frustration of fellow Wings fans who demand that Yzerman is taking too long, they want to win right now but it is so nice to see a clear plan in place and can see light at the end of the tunnel. Edited July 5 by yave1964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Ewing Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 15 minutes ago, yave1964 said: Most important Trey Augustine. Several years away but looks like the real deal Sebastian Cossa not being rushed but likely will get NHL ice time this year and a semi regular by the next. So these other guys are just placeholders really and nothing more. Yeah. Just like I was thinking with the skaters. I saw some people ripping on Yzerman for the signings, but like I said earlier, these are all short-term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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