RonJeremy

10 minutes ago, GratefulFlyers said:

what the hell Flyers' skaters ... nice to see Fedotov making great saves but enough watching the Isles ...  12 SOG in the 2nd and the Flyers have 2 maybe 3?

We have overachieved all year, it’s finally catching up to us. 

7 hours ago, GratefulFlyers said:

If Couturier and Atkinson could still play top 6 effectively I like those forward lines. Maybe Couturier can but hoping Atkinson hits another mini-hot streak is probably not the best use of the roster.

 

 

That question has been answered Coots is shot and  Atkinson is completely shot.

2 minutes ago, Samifan said:

Totally agree that he is a way better player, hell most peewees are better than VandeVelde. 
 

I just am not sure why he has become Torts favorite?

Because he reminds Torts a lot of his favorite player…Laughton.

1 hour ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

You speak like they have done something like that before??

 

 

1 hour ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

You speak like they have done something like that before??

 

 

He’s recovered , he just sucks defensively.  

2 minutes ago, Samifan said:

Which is greater?

 

Hakstol’s love for VandeVelde or Torts love for Poehling? 

2 minutes ago, Samifan said:

Which is greater?

 

Hakstol’s love for VandeVelde or Torts love for Poehling? 

Poehling is a much better player, he’s good defensively, has good size and speed and has some untapped offensive skill. To me, he makes Laughton expendable.

2 hours ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

Grabbing a guy like Zadorov or Pesce isn't about building around them. They're complimentary pieces to what's already in place. 

The problem is all the defensemen we currently have are also complementary pieces, we do not have a legit #1 offensive dman and we don’t have a legit shutdown defender either . Adding more complementary guys isn’t the answer. For example the Rangers have a perfect duo , Fox is the two way guy with high end offensive skill and Trouba is the physical shutdown guy.  That’s the way you build a top pair, one big shutdown guy with and offensive guy. Two small non physical guys like Drysdale and York are not ideal for a top pair. Our top two needs are a #1 center and a legit top pair on defense. Maybe York becomes a Desjardins type guy for us and Bonk looks to be very skilled but he’s not ready. We still need a stalwart defender with size and skill and some snarl also.

1 hour ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

Laughton and Poehling are being used in those roles because they're the coach's pets. Let's be honest about that. Tortorella loves the try hard guys. In fairness, Poehling should be back as the 4th center and Laughton should be used exclusively on the left wing of Poehling on the fourth line. 

 

I'm all for an elite checking line. If that line can win critical faceoffs, score between 35 and 40 goals a year and play exclusively on the penalty kill, that would be ideal. 

 

In terms of a legit number one center, nobody is trading those and if they do, it's costing you a fortune in terms of picks, players and cap space. The Flyers are going to have to draft a center.  The question is, will they have the patience to let them develop? 

 

So yeah, I think it's best to get the defense straightened out first because that elusive center is going to be incredibly hard to find, unless the Flyers decide to give Michkov the Giroux treatment and play him at center. Even then, I certainly wouldn't mind a Boisvert/Hage prospect in the pipeline.

We  definitely are going to have to draft a center,  and in order not draft another Poehling or Laughton we  can’t be picking 18-25. We are gonna have to trade up in the draft plain and simple, we are  already loaded at right wing and Michkov is also a right wing, sooner or later a right wing has to go. So you have to deal from a position of strength to shore up  a weakness. The only way we move into a high enough position  to get a center is via a trade. Unless we move two 2024 first round picks and one of our 2025 picks to acquire a top 5 pick.

The reason Poehling and Laughton are being used in their roles is not that they are Torts’ pets, it’s because other than Frost we have no skilled centers, Poehling is big with speed and Laughton is quick but neither are offensive dynamos. Coots is skating like Brad Marsh, he is out of gas and possibly washed up. We really have no other options at center right now.

5 hours ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

I like Zadorov. Was a big fan of him in London. I never understood why no NHL club wouldn't use him in an offensive role because he had the chops as well. Dude had a great outlet pass and a rocket of a shot from the point. If he wants 3 to 3.5 a year, I'd hope the Flyers would be all over it. 

We can sign all the dmen we want, we are going nowhere with Laughton or Poehling as the second line center. Frost is a second liner, we need a real first line center and then Poehling is perfect as third line center  Laughton can be traded and Coots can be fourth or switch with Poehling depending if Coots bounces back next year.  His days as a top two center are over.  

1 hour ago, Samifan said:

Zamula-Ginning

 

Like it. Ginning deserves to be in over Attard in my opinion. 

 

Hope to see the Flyers out the gate quick tonight and pot a couple of goals early. 
 

 

You are right ,Ginning has been better defensivel. Attard takes a lot of chances in the offensive zone, I don’t think he has been burned in doing so but Torts probably prefers a defensive type.

Just now, flyerrod said:

Hoping for a better 3rd. 2nd period was much better with chances but no finish. I am tired of the officials letting the habs start **** and not have to answer for it. The Tippett penalty was ridiculous…..Players need to be able to police themselves at least to some degree.

That dman apple stroudle is really laying the lumber on our guys.

2 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

That doesn't hold water. If my ten year old knows that assaulting women is wrong, then a 20 year old should know. This isn't about a drunken sexual encounter. This is five guys who took turns on this girl and ejaculated and spit on her. Don't tell me they didn't know what they were doing was wrong. They knew.

Well if that’s the case , then they deserve what they get and their careers are toast. I hadn’t heard those details.

1 minute ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

Lots of 18 year olds have good judgement. They know not to put themselves in that position. And they weren't 18 when the assault took place. They were 20. Big difference.

1 minute ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

Lots of 18 year olds have good judgement. They know not to put themselves in that position. And they weren't 18 when the assault took place. They were 20. Big difference.

20 year olds are not exactly the picture of maturity, have you ever seen what goes on at college parties and spring break. I’m not defending them if they are guilty but just being there doesn’t make you guilty. Time will tell.

1 minute ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

Hart has no value. Nobody will touch him even if he's find not guilty. Teams will look at him as a weak character guy and someone who can't make good decisions. He's going to have to go Russia or some place like that to rehabilitate his career.

I don’t know ,the NFL and NBA allow wife beaters and convicts second chances, I know the NHL is different, so some teams may want him. You know how it goes these days, people are all outraged and then it’s soon forgotten.  The mayor of DC was caught on camera smoking crack with escorts, resigned and was re-elected . Maybe Hart plays overseas for a year and comes back. The Flyers would still own his rights for a trade, unless they outright release him. Plus , how many 18 yr olds have good judgment when drinking and at a party.

2 minutes ago, GratefulFlyers said:

 

The Canadians deserve some credit - about 20% IMHO - Flyers are just lifeless...

 

 No, Montreal is smothering them and hitting everyone hard. It’s a tremendous checking effort by Montreal, we can’t get any sustained attack and they are winning all the battles. After that high octane game against the Rangers you knew a letdown was coming.

1 hour ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

I'm hopeful that Fedotov makes an impact when he comes over. The flyers desperately need a goalie to step up. Ever since Ersson was named starter, in his 21 games, he's gone 9-8-4 with a .880 save percentage. I know I harp a lot about Ersson, but this was his chance to really grab the reins and run with the number one role and he dropped the ball. And I don't need to hear "he's a rookie" type stuff. He's going to be 25 in five months. He's played in 102 professional games and counting on North America. He's played professionally in Sweden. He's not a rookie anymore. Hopefully Fedotov can push Ersson to get to the next level. Hopefully Ersson pushes Fedotov. Steel sharpens steel. 

I guess even if Hart is found innocent , he will probably be traded due to the bad publicity . I just wonder how much his value has diminished. 

1 minute ago, GratefulFlyers said:

Well that was one of the worst periods the Flyers have played all year. PK still struggling gives the first goal...Standing around, letting the Habs just run through them...2-0... now another penalty ... Attard trips up his man on the wall. Flyers aren't skating - bound to take penalties.

The Canadiens are hammering us all over the ice and checking tight, we can’t get anything going. 

10 minutes ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said:

Flyers had a good first few minutes in the 1st but then the Habs took over.  They need to play a whole lot better than that for the rest of the game.

The Canadiens tough dmen are pulverizing our guys.

Just heard, the Flyers are working on getting him here. Even though he’s 28, that’s fine, if Hart isn’t coming back Fedetov is the perfect backup to Ersson. Kolosov will need time in the AHL anyway. 

9 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

Because Torts wants to be in management and I shared this the other day in a clip and you even liked it.

 

He wanted to be in management with the Blue Jackets and Jarmo wouldn't allow it.

Are there any management positions that Torts can move to? We already have Jones as President and Briere as GM. That leaves maybe a VP job? I don’t think a  guy like Torts would be happy as a VP, he would probably be eyeing Jones’ job within a short time, it might create problems.

3 hours ago, JR Ewing said:

 

I love it when teams other than my own over-pay low calorie wingers after being paired up with a high end centre who brings them career highs. The Sabres pairing Jeff Skinner with Jack Eichel and then laying out a $9M AAV, will never not be funny.

 

My guess is that people around here will think that I just care about stats, but it couldn't be further from the truth. I like to read the numbers because it gives me an understanding of what happened when I can’t watch. It surrounds the player’s upside & downside in some ways.

 

But for me, the sport has always been about one-on-one battles when it comes to serious hockey. Not the hockey you see in January between a top 4 team and one out of the playoffs, but between evenly-matched skill during the Spring. Some refer to it as Darryl Sutter hockey, and I guess that's right, although I didn’t really like him as a HC because he makes his teams play that way all season, so they're gassed come playoffs – but I ramble.

 

When I watch d-men in their own end, I watch who comes out of the corners with the puck. Along the boards, I watch to see which forward gets the puck out over the line when they have the chance; who ties up the guys stick in the slot. Things like that. I love watching the beautiful plays, of course, because the skill makes watching the game fun & exciting. But the trenches are, for me, where games are won and lost once the skill becomes neutralized.

 

I've seen Jeff Skinner score some pretty goals, and that's great, but I'm not sure I ever saw Jeff Skinner come off the boards with the puck when it was contested. To me, that is a problem when people are discussing numbers getting close to 8,9,10, etc million dollars per season.

 

 

I agree with your assessments  but even if we have the best defense and wingers and win lots of battles we are not coming close to a cup with Scott Laughton as your #1 center. We need to move up in the draft and grab one of those top 2 centers, although we might have to wait another year for them to be ready. I don’t see many teams looking to unload first and second line centers. The only one I’m aware of is Zegras, but I’m not sure if he is the answer. York has really emerged ,Attard and Ginning look solid, Zamula too, Bonk is kicking ass and  Andrae is almost ready. We have too many dmen , we may have to trade Drysdale and our pick to move up. Or else Konecny since we are stacked on right wing and our top prospect Michkov is also a right wing. Center is our top priority 

On 3/21/2024 at 12:13 PM, flyerrod said:

Toews was a huge reason that Kane had the success that he had. He was the defensive side that Kane generally ignored.

Behind every great wingers success is a skilled playmaking center.

3 minutes ago, flyerrod said:

There is a Biden joke screaming to be told…….(and that’s all I have to say about that….)

 

banned in 3…2…1……

16 minutes ago, mkscrewy said:

The pp is so poor i cannot, in fact, imagine that.

The worst PP three years in a row . This has never happened in the history of the NHL and we also are one of the worst in the shootout since its inception.

5 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

 

 

Putting out defensive players in OT is not playing to win, that’s playing not to lose. In the OT it makes no sense ,we already got the point. Was Torts playing for a shootout? With their goalie and skill forwards,they have a huge advantage in the shootout, so I have no idea why he didn’t put out some offensive guys there.

 

8 minutes ago, mojo1917 said:

This team man. 

 

They ****** fight you all 200ft for all 60 minutes.

 

This is an easy team to like. 

Great effort, but when you look at the Rangers fluid puck movement , PP skills and quality plays they setup as compared to our choppy plays, it shows us how far we still have to go in the skill level. Gotta love that pass by Frost to setup Tippett. We would be morons to trade that guy. His creativity is exactly what we need more of.