BobbyClarkeFan16

I was initially upset about the Johnson trade, but I look at things like this. There's going to be trades at the draft and it won't surprise me if the Flyers love someone and get that 4th back. No harm, no foul. I just hate that it was Erik Johnson they acquired.

Exactly. Not only was it entertaining, but the new core is going to be ok. There are five legit wingers on the club. There's even one in Foerster playing on his off wing. Imagine how much better he'd be if he were on his proper wing and even then, he looks like he's going to be legit left winger and he's gonna score some big goals. Cam York is an absolute beast on the blueline. You can see that it's coming together and he's looking like he's going to be a top two, possible number one defensemen on this club. He's looked legit. Definite fun year to watch player development.

I'm not worried about Barkey and his weight. The kid is a gym rat and is in there all the time. The weight will come.

I'm at the point where if they miss the playoffs, it's not the end of the world. To me, it's that they came oh so close, it's going to make guys upset and they're going to come out hard all the time next year. At the same time, it's going to open everyone's eyes within the organization that they aren't ready to buy yet and that they're going to need to continue to build through the draft and trades. Stay the course. The rebuild isn't complete. They took a big step this year, but there's still a lot of work to do.

Yep. Overachieving is a part of development. The thing is, do any of the prospects and young players have transferrable skills that they can carry to the NHL with them? And if they do, can they be developed? I think if the younger players bypass Lehigh Valley and if Shaw and Tortorella work with them, they'll be ok. Lehigh Valley is the problem and any GM with a brain can see that. I hope that Laperriere is relieved of duties this summer and someone from junior hockey with a proven development track record is brought in to correct what's going on there. Will it happen? I don't know, but I think with how the team has cratered in the 2nd half, I can't believe that Laperriere isn't feeling any sort of heat.

The two horses I can think of down there are Tuomaala and Andrae. Both have kind of hit a wall, but they're going to be good. Both need competent players around them though and the Flyers have failed both from that standpoint. With that being said, Tuomaala's rookie season reminds me of Foerster's first season and Andrae needs a guy like Shaw to help him refine his defensive game. He's a work in progress, but you can see the talent and ability there. If the defensive side gets addressed, it's very possible that the Flyers might have a better skating Timonen style defender on their hands. York - Drysdale - Andrae - Bonk has the potential to be a REALLY good top four unit in the league. And I'll give the devil his due - Tortorella has a thing for developing defensemen, especially when Shaw can find and refine the flaws.

Watch the Flyers catch lightning in a bottle and Gurianov becomes the second coming of John LeClair.

I said there were better defenders available. I'm not looking for the best move either because they aren't there yet, not even close. But Johnson is disappointing. He's done. He only plays the way he does because he can't do anything else of value. And what's scary is that if this club makes the playoffs, it's very possible that he, Ristolainen, and Seeler will all play big minutes because "playoff hockey" and "grind". What's even sadder is that someone like Attard, who should be given a chance to run with it because he actually played rather well in Lehigh Valley, is going to have to sit and watch this play out. That's what really bugs me about this move. I think Attard showed the other night he can play. I've been meh on him, but he looked really solid against Florida. Honestly, he looked a bit like Dan McGillis his first year here. But, that's just me though.

Attard should play significant minutes down the stretch. His size, physicality and shot are a welcome addition. He can also run a power play. I'm just shaking my head over Erik Johnson though. He's cooked. There were better options available for the price that was paid for Johnson. If he plays big minutes, this club is in huge trouble.

The only thing I hope coming from this deadline is that Gurianov and Johansen go to Lehigh Valley and help get Tuomaala back on track. Tuomaala needs to play with legit guys and those two should help him out of his funk. As for the rest of the deals, I have no problem with the Walker trade, Seeler and Johnson were basically to appease the coach so that he doesn't have to play young players on defense down the stretch and I'm ****** glad they didn't make any deal for Chychrun. Still lots of work to do this off season though. Briere really needs to look at balancing out the wings and the team NEEDS a legit top center (I'm good with Frost bring the 2nd, Couturier being the 3rd and Poehling the 4th). Surprised they didn't try to acquire a goalie though. They're going to run Ersson hard down the stretch it seems.

I think Conroy was right in not trading him. Summer is the best time for that. Let Markstrom carry the Flames for the rest of the season and then Wait for teams to get their cap space in check and then make the desk when they can get the most. The big thing to getting any deal done though is going to be Maloney and that **** ****** is going to handcuff Conroy and Markstrom, regardless.

With Johansen going to Lehigh Valley, that should hopefully get Tuomaala back on track and scoring again. However, something tells me Puckhead won't think about that.

Yep. Briere is Fletcher-ing this deadline and Jones and Tortorella are complicated in this ****. This franchise will NEVER get it.

Yep because Ceci can be buried. If Edmonton wants Walker and Seeler, I'd hope that not only do the Flyers get Edmonton's 1st, but I'm hopeful that Danny can squeeze another asset like Xavier Bourgault.

And yet Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, Colorado, and Chicago have done it and it's turned out alright. Good management, good drafting, good coaching. The Flyers haven't had that combination of all three and it's safe to say that management has ALWAYS been the issue. And I'll continue to call out the crap this franchise does.

Don't apologize. We're cool.

https://www.audacy.com/94wip/sports/flyers/philadelphia-flyers-keith-jones-94wip-bs-message-rebuilding Can't get much clearer than that. Jones pretty much admits to shitting on the fans.

It was on Philadelphia radio. I'll find the link for you.

No, @SCFlyguyis like the rest of us who are tired of the same old dog and pony show the Flyers trot out every year and then try to sell it as 'see we're committed' and the only thing they commit to is mediocrity. They won't do a real rebuild. They refuse to take the lumps and try to cheat the rebuild process. And to make matters worse, they keep going on about culture and identity as being the core to a Flyers rebuild. It's insanity over and over and over. They continually make the same mistakes, but expect it will be different. Even Jones admitted that the rebuild statement was for the fans, but in the locker room, he said the rebuild was BS. Enough said.

Briere is going to Fletcher this deadline, isn't he....

Now THIS was the Flyers team I was expecting this year. Nine is the next 12 games are against serious contenders. It's very possible that the Flyers tank out of a playoff spot. Plus, with the trade deadline coming on, it's almost a certainly that Walker and Seeler go. You might be able to add Laughton's name to that list as well. I'm wondering if Tuomaala and Andrae aren't far behind Lyksell and Attard in terms of a call up.

Yeah I remember that. Someone needs to work on their conditioning.

Ersson and his awesome .778 save preventative right now in this game. He might be a good team guy, but if the Flyers plan on making a run in the playoffs, this crappy save percentage stuff won't cut it. Enough is enough. Sam needs to step up his game.

The same thing also happened when Forsberg was on the team. I liked Richards, but I think he was extremely defensive when his leadership was questioned. Those two aren't just another guy. Those two are veterans who have won Stanley Cups.

Ivan Morozov was an 18 point forward in the AHL. I get that he's played well in the NHL, but his time on North America has been nothing to write home about.