1 hour ago, Math said:

And Q. Hughes for the Norris so far.

IDK about Hughes man. Pure offense, his defense is poor, he moves the puck very well but the best way to pin him in is to force him to play pinned in. Very flawed, incredible teammates, I just feel his scarier moments are ahead. Still hiskanen unless someone comes along for the Norris ....

  A bit of this and that ...

TOP TURN RANKINGS 1-32

32 Sharks. What a disaster

31 Hawks. Sigh, at least they have bedard

30. CBJ. Lost without a clue

29. Sens. Half the team is unwatchable

28. Sabres. Fools gold

27. Oilers. A bit of a spark.

26. Wild. Two steps forward three back

25. Ducks. Bright future bleak today.

24. Kraken. Ugly nameless team.

23. Blues. Can win or lose 6-0 any day.

22. Canadians. Play hard but so many holes.

21. Preds. Saros, forsberg quietly being shopped

20. Flames don't look now but getting there

19. Penguins 5 stars, 15 slugs. 

18. Yotes. Always in every game.

17. Flyers Torts says they have balls. He's right.

16. Jets. They played as a team every day

15. Capitals three goalies. Underrated.

14. Lightning. Something very wrong

13. Wings. Man only missing is a tender

12. Canucks. Built western tough.

11. Isles. The new preds.

10. Leafs. Trying a stable back ender

9. Canes. Big holes, hard work. Need something

8. Rangers steamrolled most everyone

7. Knights resting until playoffs. Deadly

6. Devils. Yep forget record. When healthy a twelve game streak coming now.

5. Bruins. Slipped a gear.

4. Kings. An elite of elite

3. Lanche classy wants healthy at the right time

2. Stars perfect top 50 or so organization

1. Panthers. Just resting and retooling

HART trophy gotta be McDavid

VEZINA shester

CALDER bedard. Duh 

ADAMS Spencer Carbery, coaching ,Capitals hitting the buttons. 

LADY BING again, nobody cares.

  Quarter turn, lots and lots to play. MC Jesus strikes me, moreso than Hughes who is crushing it. 

I know rumor and innuendo can ruin things indefinitely. Anyone can make jokes .........

On 11/26/2023 at 9:10 PM, donald_s said:

I have a business associate who is a big Sabre's fan.  i am thinking about getting him a Sabres jersey as a gift.  So I'm interested in opinions.  If you were to get a jersey from someone, would you prefer your first name to be on the back (in this case, Ray) with a number like 00.  Or would you rather get something with a name and Jersey number for someone like Jeff Skinner?

 

Opinions appreciated.

@Brewin Flames mentioned, cannot go wrong. I have Sabres in Danny Gare which kinda sorta tells my age lol. I would go with Thompson and Levi personally.

3 minutes ago, yave1964 said:

Ldk dude, the coach is a bit of a mess, the lines aren't set up everything wrong, inexperienced.

  IMHO the Sens have skilled depth fun run, elite level. 

So anyway, no depth, no lower six, no bottom four, two elite level contracts. You could go top six forwards, top two blueliners and maaaaybe a stretch of top two back ends. The problem was it was everything. Crazy top six, middle six sux. Top two elite pair bottom four couldn't stop anyone. That's the problem, they looked up inch and death and decided, that's the problem, we need this and that. Sometimes you can win with a golden ticket but maybe ten percent of the time. Claude giroux signs a four year deal.lets grab Korpi or boom or bust chychrum or batherson. It's maddenly slow takes process, hell about four dudes are hear but it works. For ten years give or take but they slowly, glacially, methodical they put the brutes down, very tickled. We are young deep and raring to go. Yzer-plan as you were.......

On 11/25/2023 at 12:58 PM, Bring Back the Expos said:

Not a playoff team unless they change head coaches.

Ldk dude, the coach is a bit of a mess, the lines aren't set up everything wrong, inexperienced.

  IMHO the Sens have skilled depth fun run, elite level. 

Wild flat. Bit flat, Kaprisov a nifty but he when push comes to shove it's over. Seriously they lost when the Wild was over. Seriously Seider took over, ghost went crazy and that is something. Pushing just on dictating. Freaking love it.

5 minutes ago, wildstars95 said:

Just wanted to post it out here

3 hours ago, Brewin Flames said:

Game # 16

 

Flames 5 Nucks 2

 

Elias Lindholm's 3-point game helps Flames deal Canucks 2nd loss in 9 games

 

 

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ByAP

Updated: Nov 17, 2023, 02:00 am

CALGARY, Alberta -- — Elias Lindholm had a goal and two assists and Jonathan Huberdeau ended an 11-game scoring drought, leading the Calgary Flames to a 5-2 win over the Vancouver Canucks on Thursday night.

 

Mackenzie Weegar, Dillon Dube and Noah Hanifin also scored for Calgary (6-8-2), which improved to 4-1-1 in its last six games. Huberdeau added an assist.

 

Jacob Markstrom made 20 saves and improved to 4-6-1 on the season.

 

Elias Pettersson and Nils Hoglander scored for Vancouver (12-4-1), which lost for just the second time in nine games. Casey DeSmith finished with 34 saves in his first loss of the season.

 

Vancouver defenseman Filip Hronek had his 11-game point streak snapped.

 

“I think we were tired. It caught up to us,” Canucks coach Rick Tocchet said. “The second half of the game, listen, they didn’t quit. I got no problem. But you’ve got to learn how to play tired. You’ve got to manage the puck a little more.”

 

The Canucks were coming off a 4-3 overtime victory against the Islanders on Wednesday night.

 

“It’s easy to say but keep it simple, I think,” Hoglander said. “We had a lot of turnovers today. We learn and do better next game.”

 

After Vancouver opened the scoring midway through the first period, the Flames scored the next four goals.

 

Calgary pulled even at 17:53 when Weegar took a drop pass from AJ Greer and ripped a 40-foot wrist shot over DeSmith’s blocker.

 

The Flames took their first lead at 10:49 of the second when Rasmus Andersson’s slap shot squeaked through DeSmith’s pads and Dube reached behind him to knock it over the line.

 

Calgary increased its lead to 3-1 with 36 seconds remaining in the period. In what proved to be the eventual winner, Hanifin carried the puck deep into the Canucks' end and scored with a shot inside the far post.

 

But the biggest ovation – and celebration -- of the night came 5:53 into the third period when Huberdeau got a pass from Backlund and zipped a shot under the crossbar.

 

Huberdeau, who is in the second season of an $84 million, eight-year deal, entered with just seven points in 15 games. Two seasons ago, he had a 115-point season with the Florida Panthers.

 

“Obviously, it felt good. It’s been a while,” Huberdeau said. “It was good to finally get a goal and a big win for us.”

 

Dube said it was nice to see Huberdeau get rewarded for the work he puts in.

 

 

“His attitude coming to the rink, every day he’s positive and tries to get better,” Dube said.

 

After Hoglander’s goal at 10:06 cut Calgary’s lead to 4-2, Huberdeau assisted on Lindholm’s empty netter at 18:08. Lindholm had also been struggling, having gone pointless in nine of his last 10 games.

Off to its fastest start in franchise history, Vancouver opened the scoring at 9:36 on a power play. Pettersson’s one-timer from the faceoff dot completed a slick passing sequence with Quinn Hughes and JT Miller.

Fair to say this was the flames Best game of the Year. By far. Even huberdeau and Zadorov seemed engaged.

1 minute ago, J0e Th0rnton said:

Seguin is still serviceable. Kucherov still elite.

 

But yeah, hip surgery is hard to come back from.

 

Kesler was a banger league superstar once upon a time 

We more or less write the same thing same time

23 minutes ago, Math said:

 

And Seguin, while still playing, has become the shell of himself.

  Agreed, watched the Stars against the Leafs early in the year, paid attention to Seguin (usually I study blueliners or favorite players or scouting for my fantasy teams lol). 

  Anyway he is a North/South straight line player with no cutting ability or speed. He is a fearless and capable net front presence on the power play. Still highly skilled but nothing like he once was. He is blessed to be surrounded by highly skilled young players and a system that still utilizes what he can still do. Overpaid? Oh my God yes, he and Benn both but unlike other teams with bloated contracts who cut the player Dallas, one of the Smartest teams in hockey manages to take advantage of what they can still do. Seguin on one leg is still very useful and skilled and a warrior. Overpaid but still talented.

  Numerous sources have Kane going home to play this year and next with Buffalo, just under 4million per. 

  It makes sense, the Sabres want to contend, Kaner a local boy the hope to move the needle.

  I would be weary, backstrom had the same hip surgery and just walked away from the game. Still if he is 90 percent the player he was  the Sabres added him for nothing but money. 

1 hour ago, mojo1917 said:

@yave1964

Man that is a take.

I appreciate it though and it's tough to argue with.

Who is the other most overrated exec? 

asking for a friend.

  I know he is an icon, but lou lamiorello IMHO is insanely overrated. Drafted martin brodeur which won him several cups, but his signings (see Kovalchuk, ect . All...) His very questionable trading record and especially his piss poor drafting over the last 20 years make him the GOAT of all time over hyped execs. Now with the Islanders he signed the entire damn team to seven and eight year deals which is questionable for Tampa but at least they have recent cups, on the island they are a middling team, aging, nowhere to go because even 4th liners and backup goalies are overpaid for too long of a term. Other than drafting Brodeur he has done very little to earn his rep. Reporters glow about how secret he is, how privately charming he is in a curmudgeonly way but seriously, going back two decades he accidently took an 8 seed devils team to a surprise final in 2011, the leafs were good but he deserves at most little credit or even blame if you count playoff failures, he took over a mediocre isles club and made them more so. His reputation is far overblown.

  Honorable mention Brian Burke. The man's voice makes grit my teeth so hard my fillings nearly pop 

@JR Ewing

Man I agree with you on Holland. The happiest day for me in the last ten years as a Wings fan was not the signing of yzerman but Holland moving on. His drafts in later years after Jim Nill left were wretched, his trades were overpayment for bandaids and signing mediocre plays such as Weiss, abdelkader, HELM, Ericsson and so many more to long term crippling deals was dreadful. Some day he will go to the hall as an executive. I won't watch. He left scorched earth, less than five players remain in the organization he left in Motown. He inherited a team built by the great jimmy devallano took advantage of Nill draft picks Zetterberg and Datsyuk to win a cup in 2008 and then slowly ruined a once proud franchise with one inept move after another. He is one of the two most overrated exes who ever built a team in NHL history. Just awful. I thought McDavid and Leon might be able to carry the team in spite of him but it looks like not. Holland should have never been hired.the game literally passed him by the day a salary cap was implemented and he could no longer sign a hull/Hasek/robitaille with pizza money to buy a cup. (Sound of me climbing off my soapbox).

3 minutes ago, JR Ewing said:

The Edmonton Oilers are firing head coach Jay Woodcroft, the team announced on Sunday.

 

Edmonton was on a shortlist of Stanley Cup favourites coming into the season but a 3-9-1 record through 13 games has them well back in the Pacific Division standings. And now, it’s cost Woodcroft his job. Assistant coach Dave Manson has also been relieved of his duties.

 

Hartford Wold Pack head coach Kris Knoblauch will replace Woodcroft as head coach in Edmonton with Paul Coffey as an assistant. 

 

Woodcroft's run as head coach ends after a year-and-a-half run, beginning when he took over a struggling team from Dave Tippett in February of 2022. The Oilers found a spark under their new head coach, going 26-9-3 over their final 38 games and advancing to the Western Conference Final. But Edmonton’s run came to an end after they ran into the 119-point Colorado Avalanche, who swept them en route to a Stanley Cup title.

 

In their first full season under the 47-year-old, Oilers finished with 109 points – the fourth highest total in team history – and went into the playoffs with the second-most wins in the Western Conference. The Oilers once again ran into the eventual Stanley Cup champion as the Vegas Golden Knights sent them home in six games in the second round.

 

Hopes were sky-high for 2023-24 but the Oilers dropped six of their first seven games, including an 8-1 drubbing in Vancouver on opening night, and the team is currently mired in a four-game skid. 

Woodcroft has been with the Oilers since 2015 when he joined the team as an assistant coach under Todd McLellan. In 2018, Woodcroft became the head coach of the club’s AHL affiliate, the Bakersfield Condors, and returned to the NHL just under four years later as Tippett’s replacement.

 

Woodcroft worked for the Detroit Red Wings as a video coach and the San Jose Sharks as an assistant before joining the Oilers.

 

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/edmonton-oilers-fire-head-coach-jay-woodcroft-to-be-replaced-by-kris-knoblauch-1.2034699

Had to happen. Knoblaugh a good rep in the AHL.

8 minutes ago, Icechipper said:

Wild give up on high-end 23-year-old for a steady 33-year-old rental. Do the Wild see something in Adam Raska's game that Sharks missed? Otherwise, Wild just got older.

Raska is a small guy, lousy skater, non scorer. He hits a lot and fights a lot and is an okay 4th linee in the AHL but too small to play that role in the bigs with nowhere near the skill to move up to the third line. AHL fodder, probably good for half a dozen games a year in the bigs id injuries and desperation occur. Busts his tail, plays hard, just not a player.

  Two trades. One day.

Undersized power play specialist Calen Addison was dealt to the Sharks by the Wild for a 5th rounder and non prospect Adam Faska. Shortly after the Wild added Zach Bogosian from the bolts s for a 7th rounder 

  Addison can QB a power play very well but is an awful defender and in spite of offensive ability from the back end because of deficiencies could not stay in the lineup. The Sharks desperately needed a puck mover on the back end, they have literally been playing five forwards on the power play.

  Bogo has mostly been a healthy scratch, he is solid as a 7th blueliner, stay at home, plodding, no offense but can defend in his zone. The exact opposite of Addison in fact.

  So young maddeningly soft offensive blueliner dealt away to save the coaches sanity, a meh D plus prospect, a slight pick upgrade and a decent stay at home defender the return.

 Sharks get offense, Wild get decent return and Bolts help an old friend get a chance to keep playing. Good deal for all.

2 hours ago, SaucyJack said:

Where’s the love today?   

Glad to see them get the monkey off their back, Blackwood is a legit NHL goalie, played his tail off, I watched the replay, man Hertl wanted this one bad, he won one crucial faceoff after another and was double shifting much of the third. Duclair played by far his best game as a Shark, Eklund who is a nice building block played over 21 minutes. Even givani smith got in the act with the rough stuff. 

  One night, one game, they got the desperately needed win, team still awful, but love for one game, lol.

4 hours ago, notfondajane said:

What was the 74/75 Capitals record? Part b after 12 games?

Caps after 12 games were 1-11. 

  The all time record for most losses to start a year which the Sharks have tied is 11, set in 1943-44 by the rangers. No other team has ever went more than 8 games to start a year without a victory. The rangers actually had an excuse, it was the war years and their roster was depleted as players joined the military. Different world.

Lohrei always looked solid with the buckeyes, he is HUGE and not afraid to use his size. I remember his last year at OSU, he was on the ice, game against Wisconsin I believe, a penalty was called against the opponent, he stayed on the ice for the entirety of the power play then another minute or so before he went out for a switch then he came back out about a minute later. In short, he was on the ice for about six of seven minutes still banging and bumping finally assisting a goal by Cole McWard (now a Canuck farm hand). People both teams switching constantly he looked strong and fresh the entire time 

  Very raw defensively, like very, very raw. He makes up for it with size and snarl. In other words, a perfect Bruin. I don't believe he has had a  fight yet but he is massive, he is going to hurt someone someday if they are dumb enough to challenge him.

If San Jose loses they break the all time record for most losses to begin a season. 

Honestly I don't know who's under the most pressure, the sharks certainly don't want that ignominy but the flyers certainly don't want to be the first team to lose to them 

Just now, Brewin Flames said:

Just wondering if Quinn makes it through the year.

If the daughter of Scotty Bowman married the son of Al Arbour, and that child were coaching this team I don't believe they could do any better 

  That said, I doubt Quinn makes it through the year. It is easier to fire a coach than to fire 19 players no matter how much they may deserve to be fired.

1 hour ago, Math said:

The last time that a team allowed 10 goals in back-to-back games was in 1965, a period where ice hockey was a different sport and goaltending wasn't really a thing.

I was one year old lol. Good Lord 

Improvement.

  After losing to Vancouver 10-1, they performed much better last night against the penguins.

  They only lost 10-2. 

2 hours ago, Brewin Flames said:

 

 

Still not working....

Hang in there, at least you have your bruins......