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I agree. If that’s what you got from my post, that was not my intent. I think both are wrong; lumping the entire organization as bad because of a few, or minimizing a victim to protect the integrity of the organization. as for prejudice, most of have some form of prejudice inside of us. It’s acting on that prejudice negatively toward another that causes the problem. If I decide to hate Hockey Canada over this incident, or any of the players involved, that my prerogative. I think you mentioned Kobe Bryant and Ben Roethlisberger earlier. I can assure you I have very strong hatred toward both of those individuals

The problem I see with Bettmans comment is he’s trying to deflect. If the allegations are true, deflecting or defending makes you culpable in my eyes. In the face of such a tragedy, the level of the crime, trying to point out the good is beyond insensitive and suggests to me the guy is part of the problem any act of this magnitude should be looked at and evaluated for what it is. It should not be lumped into a larger number to make it look isolated. It shouldn’t matter if for every one sexual assault, there are 1000, or 1000, positive encounters. It’s like saying 1 million people crossed the border illegally, but only 100 children weee sex trafficked. You can’t look at the percentage and say it’s no that bad. Any singular offense of sexual abuse is unacceptable, and a person in Bettmans position should be focused on 100% compliance. Any person found guilty, regardless of their talent, celebrity, or skill, should pay the harshest price possible

I hope they keep Tippett… and the flip phone

i dont follow. I started reading JR's explanation but I got bored. I still have no idea how it works. Its enough for me that you guys do. Are you saying they can somehow trade Ellis for a center? That would be great. Id trade his contract for a broken flip phone....and I'd throw in a 2nd

Any chance Laughton gets traded? asking for a friend

disregard...i kept reading impatience is a virtue

why wouldn't they do this, and why havent they already?

8% ?

Is this forum considered social media?

It seems pretty obvious to me that everybody scrambling at this point just to cover their asses i’m also of the opinion that they think they had this thing bottled up however when the case was reopened the **** royally hit the fan

Not according to some (one) in this forum

cue the softball responses.......

let me rephrase.... why is this so difficult? redirect: Why am I so insensitive?

Of course they are. And they probably will. But that's not what I'm saying. What I AM saying is, the Flyers franchise making a social justice decision on a political matter, i.e. Kate Smith, is not the same as the personnel team making a decision on a player based on alleged criminal conduct. why is this so hard?

I don't think so. Again, see Billy Tibbetts. Not that Tibbetts is an example of this, but sports franchises will tolerate a lot if it means they will win games. See Ray Lewis and Kobe Bryant

if they don't know how many sexual assaults are "unreported", how do they determine percentage that are?

The Kate Smith issue has everything to do with "franchise" management, not the team itself. The Flyers decided to acquiesce to the the public under societal pressure, which I think was ridiculous. In the case of Hart they granted him leave due to him being the subject of investigation. Societal pressure has nothing to do with it. If he gets cleared, is under contract, and can win them hockey games, he will be back between the pipes. They won't care about society (see Billy Tibbetts)

the Kate Smith issue has nothing to do with players. For clarity, I think that issue is BS

As pointed out by another poster, the Flyers have a couple of examples of players who were MORE than accused of the same type of thing, and they still got a chance to play for them. I personally think they enough about the situation that it prompted them to find, and prepare Errson to take Harts position. You can't blame them. They have no idea what the outcome will be. It seems pretty obvious though, if they had information indicating Hart was "innocent", their approach would be different. Based on his contract status, I agree he will not play in Philly again. But if he is cleared, another NHL team will take a chance on him. Wins matter more than real life ethics

There are three types of lies…. LIES! DAMNED LIES! and STATISTICS

Yeah about that…… I think Hart is screwed!

It’s pretty obvious your intent is just to argue for the sake of argument. Since you chose to resort to childish insults, I will move on good luck with your crusade

@hmc687 let me also say this, if the opinions of the people on this forum mattered in the slightest to franchises like the Flyers, Chuck Fletcher’s dumb ass would’ve be gone at the end of his first season chip Kelly would’ve never been hired and both of the offensive and defensive coordinators, for the Eagles would’ve been fired after game five of this NFL season and even more so if the opinions of us on this for mattered, Ristolainen would’ve never been brought here and would’ve been out of here after about the first warm-up of pre-season

No it isn’t. The eagles fired Chip Kelly because he sucked as an NFL coach Fletcher was fired because he was horrible at his job it appeares you spent a lot of time d eloping that post. Sorry, it was too long to read. I stopped after Fletcher if anything I post in this forum has any negative impact on any professional athlete or celebrity, that person should get another job. The only place my opinion has any bearing in anything, is if I stop spending any money on tix, swag, or programming. And that impact is minute at best if you want to glorify yourself by thinking you have an impact on matters such as this, go right ahead. You won’t change my opinion in the slightest

For me, I try to discern what isn’t actually being reported, or what is logical I don’t think it’s logical, if this was a money grab of celebrities, that the investigating agency would close the case, only to reopen it several years later. The reopening is what hits me the most. A police department usually behaves in this manner when its faces significant repercussions because someone screwed up royally…..no pun