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Seriously asking. It seemed like the TDA deal was dependent upon the St. Louis trade going through. Did the money not work for retaining 50% of TDA without St. Louis? I'm thinking the "snag" with Carolina was somewhere along those lines.

Yeah. Don't defend for those who cannot defend themselves.

I don't think this was about actually wanting Krug. His term is shorter than Hayes so the idea was the Flyers could get out from the cap hit several years earlier. Aside from not wanting to go to the stink hole that currently is the Flyers, my guess is that Krug also knows he's not actually wanted and that upon his arrival both fans and front office will be counting the days until he leaves. Best case, actually, would be if he were Ellis 2.0 because then we LITR him and don't worry about his cap.

1000x this. Rad and BC said it well, too.

Yeah, which is why keeping him for next year might help the 2024 draft pick. But I'm happier moving him

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This right here. Much more than the stupid Risto trade, this is why i hate Fletcher. When they fired him, they should have had Danny Heatley drive him home. Too soon?

LMAO!

I think this is it. At the end of the third year, if you haven't moved him buy him out. He's terrible but it could help our draft position next year. #TrusttheProcess or some crap

I'm not at all a fan of Johansen. At all. At $4M for the next two years and expecting to use him for middle six it's not terrible for the Avs. Yet, I'd rather resign Compher. For the Predators to shed garbage without having to saddle themselves with a buyout, good on them. I'd say win/win, and it is, but I just don't like Johansen so not huge on this for the Avs.

This won't be a popular sentiment and will garner more disagreement than agreement, but I actually rate Hayes as better than Johansen. I thought Ryan was a fraud when he still played better than he currently does. Both should be better than they are and both float. I'd pay little for either, but I'd pay more for Hayes if the store was out of fertilizer.

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IF this is true, I doubt it's been turned down. Likely just on hold because there's something else he's involved in as a package that either gets a move up or helps shed a bigger contract and gets a prospect and some kind of pick back. I agree that with Chuck Fletcher currently not employed that there's any way Laughton by himself brings more than the 1st and future 2nd. I have a hard time believing he even brings that.

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I agree about the culture clash. Completely. I get the argument. OR made a similar one, and he wasn't wrong about not wanting the stink of him to permeate the "new day." I'm hoping they can move him (despite limited NMC) some way other than a buyout. I just don't see the cap going up and the extended dead money will be killer. I really do think a competent GM can move him. If Fletcher was still GM I'd yell, "buyout," because 1) he wasn't competent and 2) we wouldn't be hoping about being better in three years. The jury is still out on Briere, obviously, but I think he can move him rather than buyout. Even if it's for a 7th rounder it's a win.

I liked Pettersson and Makar but didn't think the Flyers would go dman that early. And honestly, it was always going to be whichever of Hischier or Patrick that the Devils didn't take. Pettersson wasn't and still isn't the "prototypical" center the Flyers wanted, and still isn't he's still a winger masquerading as a center , though finally playing wing more. But yeah, obviously would have been the better pick.

Of the top 13 (and largely in hindsight) there might be only one or two I wouldn't have taken ahead of Patrick. I don't blame them for picking him -- despite the injury concerns that proved fatal -- but what a horrific pick that proved to be.

Provide a link because I haven't seen this and have seen the opposite. I highly doubt this would be the very first thing you were ever right about.

I don't give a crap about the way overblown "he's gonna teach people bad stuff." First, that's crap. Second, I'm not screwing up what will hopefully be a better team because we can't figure out how to mitigate that effect or because our new GM is so incompetent he can't trade him at a deadline and can't do it without sandbagging the three additional years. It simply makes zero good sense. Or any sense

So you're okay losing someone we suddenly can't fit under the cap because you want to pay $2.4M for his stupid ass for 3 extra years? Years 4-6 we should arguably be ready to go but we have to give someone up or not sign appropriate help because of fricken Hayes and out of sheer stupidity and impatience? You're right. We certainly disagree on this.

You don't do it for 3 years. It's over double what's left of his contact. It amounts to roughly $2.4M a year for the next 6 years I'd rather pay the $7M/ye while the team is going to suck anyway and maybe try to move him at a deadline with retention than have $2.4M of dead cap space when we're attempting to resign a Cam York or someone when, in theory, the team will be better. Why would you want to sandbag the team with that when they're finally getting to the place we'd like them to be? Jesus, let him help the Flyers suck while it benefits them and work to move him in other ways. Don't spread it into years where the hit might actually be remotely relevant. If there's reason to buyout in the offseason prior to his last year, it's still $2.4M/yr but only for one more year after it would have otherwise been. Still not ideal and probably a failure by Danny Jonesy, but still better than three additional.

Buying him out is a terrible idea. So, they'll do it before tomorrow morning.