8 hours ago, CoachX said:

They also know that the fans are smart enough to know which office the clowns reside in.

Go on the Flyers Facebook page and read any thread.

If you believe they're all actually Flyers fans, it'll take 10 minutes until you're convinced the average Flyers fan is an imbecile.

40 minutes ago, hmc687 said:

 

I never liked Hexy.  He got rid of fan favorites in Hartnell and Schenn and replaced them w literal plugs.  He also wanted to end the "broad street bullies" identity which has left the team without identity or culture or anything.   And that's still a problem for this team to this day, years or even a decade later.  And Hexy also signed awful contracts like Voracek, Weise, JVR, ...in addition to not going after quality UFAs.

 

When Hextall wouldn't fire Hakstol I started suspecting Ron was behind the nonsense (partially or fully we'll never know).

I didn't really have a problem with the moves you mention. I liked a Hartnell and was sad to see him go, but he was downhill and it was a cap move. Probably to sign Voracek to a "market contact," (lol) so it's not all good. Voracek wasn't quite as annoying until later (I hated him by the end, so you may have just been ahead of me), but still a disaster contract.

I didn't like Schenn and wasn't upset to see him go. But I didn't hate him, either. My favorite moment was him and Crosby.  It was a brilliant trade IF we didn't piss away the resulting picks.  It resulted in Frost and Farabee.   The problem with this was a gross miscalculation in the Nolan Patrick draft.  Had they drafted Makar instead, they don't create the center glut they thought they had and probably don't make that trade.

Schenn has been a much better player in St. Louis than he was in Philly.  It's hard to prove the negative, but I wonder if he has the same career arc if he'd stayed in Philly.  Let's just say I'm doubtful.

I've always maintained that JVR was directed from above Hextall. It just seemed out of his norm at the time and had the smell of Holmgren interfering to fix his own perceived mistake. (His trading JVR was never the problem; just the piss poor return).  I'm less likely to hang my hat on the theory as I used to be, but not entirely convinced it's bunk.

My biggest problem with Hextall is the knowledge of how bad many of the draft picks turned out. A little bit too much of the self perceived smartest guy in the room syndrome, especially at the draft.  And even if I'm only partially right about JVR, it's still his name on it, so no passes.

32 minutes ago, hmc687 said:

Hakstol in Seattle really makes me wonder about his time here with Philly.  Was it Hakstol that refused to do certain things?  Or was it Hextall forcing Hakstol's hand?  I'll be the first to confess I don't watch Seattle play at all other than the boxscore, but they've really put something solid together there.  And with Berniers and Wright they have a decent-good future.

 

Hextall allegedly ignored all scouts/executives (per Clarke) and chose Patrick over Makar or Heiskanen, etc.  And we know Hextall is horrific as a GM based on his time here and in Pittsburgh...so its entirely plausible that Ron forced his hand during Dave Hakstol's tenure here.

 

This entire post is pure speculation and I'm glad for Hakstol to find such success in Seattle.  That franchise showing early indications of grooming and developing a prospect the right way which is good news for Wright.

 

Anyhow, here's to hoping Frost becomes a bona-fide 2C and Flyers still somehow finish worst in the league this year XD

I was among those who thought Hakstol was terrible here and wanted him run out of town.

@hf101 was, I think, the lone voice in the wilderness that objected to the prevailing "wisdom" and argued in support of Hakstol.   Probably the only one here unsurprised by his success so far out in Seattle.

I'm glad for him.  He always seemed like a good guy who was in over his head.   Turns out I was only right about the good guy part.

Conversely, I always supported Hextall here and wasn't happy when they canned him.  I really thought it was 100% palace politics.   I still think it was palace politics, but the passage of time and hindsight hasn't shown a favorable light on his job here.   And coupled with his time in Pittsburgh, while arguably not a fantastic hand, it's hard to argue with the "horrific as a GM" statement.

9 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

considering the service he provides...

The exact euphemism Holmgren said about Fletcher for the last three years.    The only thing that could explain how he lasted as long as he did (Fletcher, not Holmgren.  Holmgren probably lasts as long as his bike rides)

3 hours ago, SaucyJack said:

but I wouldn’t wager a dime either way.

^^^This.   This right here.

Really pretty much onboard with your entire post.    Did well with Flyers and Preds, just no cigar.    Just nothing in Washington.   I just think Trots showed how it should be done there and for whatever reason they moved on.  Maybe not an easy assignment for Lavy to follow a coach who won.  That doesn't happen often outside of a retirement, I don't think.

We'll see.  I just didn't like the firing at MSG.   I thought it was dumb.   I think he's being given a strange hand to play with.  I really like Lavy and hope I'm wrong.    I just don't like the circumstances there.

1 hour ago, jammer2 said:

26 Goals in 46 games last year. Works out to 46 goals for a full year. A 22 year old even approaching 45 goals sounds pretty good to me. 

I don't argue that.  What I'm concerned about is 46 games in a season being the norm.

1 hour ago, JR Ewing said:

Either way, I don't think that the Canes should try this.

If they're "win now and to hell with 3-4 years from now," then they're way better off with karlsson than TD Ahole.

But I'd ask to see behind Door #3

2 hours ago, pilldoc said:

Reports all over Twitter state that there is a chance the Canes could back out completely of the proposed deal. (Which I thought was a done deal....just waiting for the paperwork snafu to go through...) 

Several reporters on Twitter today are now saying it appears the trade is stalled, and the reasoning seems to be that the Hurricanes are very interested in bringing in Erik Karlsson from the San Jose Sharks.

 

Doing so would leave no room for DeAngelo, even with the Flyers retaining some of his salary.

 

Stay tuned ..... this saga is not over yet ......

 

Because Karlsson and Brent Burns worked so damn awesomely in San Jose.

Honestly, the Canes shock me every year they continue to do well.  I swear it's despite Waddell, not because of.

12 hours ago, Howie58 said:

I am perplexed by these Russian signings. As long as Putin is in charge and there is a war in Ukraine, I see a low probability of quality Russian players coming over. It's a form of retaliation against our economic sanctions.  

This is why I was and remain highly concerned about our pick at #7.  It's not necessarily an immediate issue--probably more like wait and see.   It's the waiting that's a killer.

21 minutes ago, jammer2 said:

I'm willing to be patient on York...but he has not shown (to this point) that he has the chops to run a pp...and goal scorers don't grow on trees...really good chance Caufield gets 40+ as soon as next year.

I'm going to bet that Caufield is often broken and on the shelf 

1 hour ago, flyercanuck said:

  

 

Charlie Stramel

Center -- shoots R
Born Oct 15 2004 -- St. Paul, MN

 

 

Fletchers gone and so is his Gopher State fetish.

But he still has a sexual perversion for actual gophers

(NTTAWWT)

1 minute ago, mojo1917 said:

This isn't how I'm reading it.

The K doesn't want to honor an NHL deal? 

Well then, Comcast's oligarch money doesn't have to honor the Michkov Fischer-price contract with SKH St Petersburg .

 

I see that blade as cutting both ways.

Provided we can physically get him out of Russia.

1 hour ago, CoachX said:

Well, depending on what you choose to believe, Brindy demanded to be moved. Also, I get the love for the guy, but on no planet does any team trade a talent like Lindros for the sake of Brindamour. It's not even close

Probably why I don't own a team because I would have without blinking.

I never liked Lindros.  I thought he was a douchebag before he was a Flyer and nothing after changed my mind.  Sure, I cheered because it was nice to see the Flyers be competitive again after the z Holmgren, Jay Snider years, but he was still a douchebag.

But I wouldn't have traded the package for him, and I would have seen what package I could have gotten for trading him instead of Brindy.

Unlike Bobble Head can't skate without looking at the puck, Brindy actually won something.

2 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

Trade should be offical today.

Oh, I thought it was the 9th. Christmas a day early!

4 minutes ago, CoachX said:

According to the Hurricanes GM, the TDA-hole trade will go through as soon as the time requirement is met

 

Per Waddell: "Us and Philly have a deal in principle. (It) just can’t be executed until a certain date,”

TDA-hole.

I like it!

25 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

 

I will NEVER understand guys who fall in love with strippers. It never ends well. 

Yep, they strip you of most of your belongings.

Every time.

9 hours ago, RonJeremy said:

Defensive positioning and stick work yes. 

I don't know. Im liked him but how much of positioning and stick work was because he was a head taller than most when he played?

I suppose, but I'm not sure with someone like Cam York.  Maybe.

9 minutes ago, CoachX said:

Staal strikes me as a true pro. He's a seasoned vet. This seems like the kind of guy who could do a lot to help a young defenseman. Kinda like Nisky did

 

 

If he can help bring York and/or Sanheim along, he's worth every penny.

I think he could legitimately help York.

8 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

I maybe alone but this draft pick looks like a steal to me...

 

 

I was good with this pick (if surprised) and am liking it better and better.

2 hours ago, jammer2 said:

Found the reports that he told ARZ to drift HILARIOUS! Guess he stated he would never play there if drafted. 

 Sidenote: if Shimashov was indeed the target, why not trade down a few spots and pick up a free 2nd? Poor asset management from where I sit. 

Was screaming the exact same thing at the television while watching the draft.  They could have traded back to 12-17 to a team that wanted to draft a top 10 player and still would have had a straight shot at their late 20s dreamcream.

59 minutes ago, GrittyForever said:

This is going to be your go to line for the next 3 years isn't it?

If only you were here before @Podein25's sheep died.   

Of syphillis. 

58 minutes ago, GrittyForever said:

This is going to be your go to line for the next 3 years isn't it?

LOL  Jon Sim lasted at least 10 years.